Topic: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition

[slaphead]

Such a nice experience to watch a game of football between Liverpool and Leeds and have the first 10 mins filled by Tyler talking about Ronaldo, Man Utd and Tennis. And the Super League.

[afc tukrish]

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50 seconds in, the start of the move for the first goal.

This is why Andres es el primero.

[Gili Gulu]

Andy Hinchcliffe, the co-commentator on Sky for the Villa-Everton game is so annoying. To hear him talk you'd think he was Roy of the Rovers or something, every single comment seems to be a criticism of the player. Goalie, Defender, Midfield or Forward doesn't matter.

He was covering the Everton Burnley games and someone skied the ball, and he said something like "I can't criticize". Me and the brother-in-law looked at each other and said "He never does anything else"

[Sarge]

Alex Scott now presents Football Focus
    

I like her.

[BarryCrocker]

Hammers fans have finally worked out why we're always complaining about Tyler when he's on our matches.

https://www.hammers.news/columnist/west-ham-finally-get-what-liverpool-supporters-have-been-saying-for-years-as-martin-tyler-is-savaged-over-man-united-bias/

[PaulF]

Sid wadell was a great shout.
They should get Attenborough in to commentate one of our games.
' and defying nature, the man made of granite leaps majestically into the air, rising to meet Trent's whipped in ball and plant it firmly into the bottom corner. Pickford dives too late for the ball, but the cameras capture his freakishly small arms flapping like a mocking bird. Liverpool once again subdue their prey, and feast on the three points.

--edit-- everything sounds good in Attenborough voice

[kavah]

Michael Owen is very good on the premier league overseas show. Today on Lampard v Tuchel’s set up was good.

[spen71]

This 3 on BT sports are terrible

[Agent99]

Michael Dawson is fucking useless.

[slaphead]

Martin Keown showing last night on MOTD what's wrong with pundits these days (one of many things). So reactive to 1 performance. Few weeks back he was questioning everything Arsenal. Last night, some of the stuff he was coming out with. This front 4 will be a famous 4. The signings they have made are big characters. Arteta has only had 12 games with a crowd and already he's making great strides. The futures bright for Arsenal.

[GreatEx]

Crooks at it again.

Henderson: Liverpool's draw at Brentford was an extraordinary game to watch and yet I was struggling to find a player to select for my team. The match was littered with mistakes and moments of occasional brilliance.

I refuse to select defenders who concede three goals at home or away and strikers who miss more chances than they score - although I have to make an exception for Salah - which leaves me with Jordan Henderson.

Liverpool keep trying to write this lad off but when the Merseysiders hit the buffers, and they did against Brentford, Henderson is the one player they can depend on to see them through the crisis. An exceptional professional.

I am actually starting to feel sorry for this bloke, he really isn't right in the noggin.

[Ziltoid]

Martin Keown showing last night on MOTD what's wrong with pundits these days (one of many things). So reactive to 1 performance. Few weeks back he was questioning everything Arsenal. Last night, some of the stuff he was coming out with. This front 4 will be a famous 4. The signings they have made are big characters. Arteta has only had 12 games with a crowd and already he's making great strides. The futures bright for Arsenal.

Tony Adams was exactly the same straight after the game on Sky. It was like they're going to be challenging for the title next year.

[RainbowFlick]

Emma Hayes is great, shame she's also a manager too as it'd be great to have her on more slots. Alex Scott being shifted also is a bit annoying.

I think it's time they need to move on the Sounesses of the world, surely.

[redgriffin73]

Crooks at it again.

I am actually starting to feel sorry for this bloke, he really isn't right in the noggin.

Liverpool keep trying to write this lad off? Crooks is still living in 2012 bless him.

[Nitramdorf]

Crooks at it again.

I am actually starting to feel sorry for this bloke, he really isn't right in the noggin.

Liverpool keep trying to write this lad off? Crooks is still living in 2012 bless him.

Hes definitely odd. I follow a few 70s, 80s football accounts on twitter and someone posted an old Shoot segment with Crooks from 1981 when they ask a load of questions.
When it got down to best friend, his answer was "my lawyer"

Weirdly his answer for most friendly fans, other than Spurs, was Liverpool and Everton. So his hatred of us must come from something else.

[slaphead]

What's Crooks going on about ?  Liverpool keep trying to write the bloke off. He was given the captaincy and a massive contract, and fully deserved both I should add. Many fans have him down as one our best captains ever by the way he has performed and conducted himself. Not only is Crooks have a weird obsession with us, but his editor clearly just lets him write whatever nonsense he wants. Strange fella, obviously just wants attention

[B0151?]

It's amazing that people are still taking Crooks seriously after all this time

I don't know if it's deliberate on his part but if you've seen him in Final Score the past 20 years or however long he's been on it he's a bit of a characterture and actually hilarious if you don't take him seriously

[GreatEx]

I certainly don't take him seriously - but I must admit I do read his column most weeks for its carnival bizarre quality. If he's doing a tongue-in-cheek bit then fair play to him; I always thought he was serious, especially with his Crooks of the Matter segment where he addresses stuff like racism and the future of the sport.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

It's amazing that people are still taking Crooks seriously after all this time

I don't know if it's deliberate on his part but if you've seen him in Final Score the past 20 years or however long he's been on it he's a bit of a characterture and actually hilarious if you don't take him seriously

I think part of that is that such an obvious buffoon is given a platform for his nonsense, which can sometimes creep into mainstream thinking. His hatchet job on Mo is a case in point. The fact that he's paid for doing so rankles a bit too.

Who knows though? It wouldn't surprise me if he was sacked years ago, but offered to do it for nothing so they agreed for a quiet life.

If you could guarantee they were universally ignored they'd be harmless, but the way media and the game in general validates their opinions, unfortunately they can affect clubs and players as we've seen.

[sinnermichael]

Carney is absolutely everywhere now. Doesn't help that her voice is like nails down a blackboard.

[slaphead]

Glenn Hoddle's not too bad having heard him a few times recently. Wasn't too keen on him last season but he's better than most out there. It was way better listening to him on BT last night than listening to McManaman just say "yep" and "nope" all night

[Pistolero]

Glenn Hoddle's not too bad having heard him a few times recently. Wasn't too keen on him last season but he's better than most out there. It was way better listening to him on BT last night than listening to McManaman just say "yep" and "nope" all night

To my ears, Hoddle's been a much better commentator since returning from his severe health scare/cardiac arrest...much more genial, less arrogant and more appreciative of other sides as opposed to being a Chelsea/Spurs cheerleader.....certainly head and shoulders above Steve MacShithouse when it comes to covering our games....I expect being at death's door has (as is often the case) made him rethink himself...although I wouldn't recommend it as a career move

[Lochgelly Violet]

Yeah great shout - he was a schoolteacher at Cowley Grammar or West park I think. And let's not forget his mentor the great Eddie Wareing.

 

He was a teacher at Parr. My granddad was the head there.

[Wild Romany Boy]

What's Crooks going on about ?  Liverpool keep trying to write the bloke off. He was given the captaincy and a massive contract, and fully deserved both I should add. Many fans have him down as one our best captains ever by the way he has performed and conducted himself. Not only is Crooks have a weird obsession with us, but his editor clearly just lets him write whatever nonsense he wants. Strange fella, obviously just wants attention

I get the impression that he would be pure hell to edit, so it's easier to just let him get his way. Much like Giles Coren or someone like that.

[sinnermichael]

The CL goals show crew should do all football punditry, ever.

[Millie]

The CL goals show crew should do all football punditry, ever.

Absolutely

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

I get the impression that he would be pure hell to edit, so it's easier to just let him get his way. Much like Giles Coren or someone like that.

I'm still convinced he was sacked ages ago, but keeps turning up and no one has the heart to throw him out.

Agree on the goals show. Watched a bit last night and was quite impressed on the whole.

[slaphead]

The CL goals show crew should do all football punditry, ever.

Who was on it mate ?

[Pistolero]

Who was on it mate ?

Danny Mills, Steve Nicol and Andy Hinchcliffe

[The North Bank]

Glad to see Mccoist getting a lot of votes. Very entertaining, positive, good to listen to. Doesn’t try to come across as a tactical genius like the sky lot.

[Wild Romany Boy]

How the hell did 12 people vote for Pat Nevin?

Glad to see Mccoist getting a lot of votes. Very entertaining, positive, good to listen to. Doesn’t try to come across as a tactical genius like the sky lot.

Exactly. Also seems to actually enjoy being there. Lawrenson would rather have been at his own funeral than watch some game judging by his tone sometimes.

[sinnermichael]

Who was on it mate ?

It's James Richardson, James Horncastle, Raphael Honigstein and Julien Laurens. They're all excellent. They also do the Totally Football Show European podcast on a Tuesday every week.

[voodoo ray]

Until I watched some of it last night for the first time this season I forgot that I actually like that bt goals show. one of the very few non-lfc football things I'll watch these days.

[sinnermichael]

Nedum Onouha is excellent. Far more eloquent than most ex players.

[slaphead]

Danny Mills, Steve Nicol and Andy Hinchcliffe

hahaha dream team then ! 

[slaphead]

It's James Richardson, James Horncastle, Raphael Honigstein and Julien Laurens. They're all excellent. They also do the Totally Football Show European podcast on a Tuesday every week.

That's a great panel. Don't know much about Horncastle but the others are great, must watch that thank you

[CraigDS]

Chris Sutton constantly giving Savage digs on BT means he's gone up in my estimation!

[oldman]

Chris Sutton constantly giving Savage digs on BT means he's gone up in my estimation!

 yes its quite funny

that Steve Sidwell pisses me off though

[CraigDS]

that Steve Sidwell pisses me off though

He's a prime example of why footballers have the stereotype of being thick.

[slaphead]

I wonder if any of them will have the morals to speak out about the Saudis if their takeover goes through. None of the Sky Sports lads will anyway, they'll all be saying about how good it is for football, how it will add a new competitive edge, how it will bring more world class players to the league.
Like him or not, and for years I have disliked him for one particular reason, but Colin Murray went up in my estimation when he quit TalkSport when they were taken over by the owners of the scum.