Topic: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time

[Twelfth Man]

Buy British.

[inexorably red]

He was very clever when he went down for 5 minutes, he broke up our momentum a tad, I said to the Mrs he knew what he was doing, and as much as I despise all that shite, I wouldnt be critical if the tables were turned.

i noticed it straight away,its cheating but who will remember it ?,he did the same against barca, it works and we were well on top then.

[thekremlin]

Carroll finally won me over today. He was brilliant.

As for the result, there's no shame in losing like that to the CL finalists. Chins up for next season... we're gonna show 'em what we're really like.

[Purple Aki]

Tactics were all wrong today. We had fuck all up front. Downing and Enrique were getting forward and there was nobody to put a cross into, and Suarez wouldn't have had a chance against Ivanovic or JT in the air. It was begging for Carroll. I like Jay spearing and he has come a long way since 2 years ago, I admire his fight and patience in breaking in to the regular 1st team spot but at the end of the day he aint fucking good enough.

Carroll was an absolute beast today, one of his best games, albeit for 35 minutes. He had the fight and the desire to go on and damn nearly get us that extra 30 mins we needed to break them down. Was the ball over the line? I'd say no and the fact that nobody on here can agree then imagine being a linesman and making the decision in a split second. Give that shit a rest now.

Devastated really, I fucking hate Chelsea and the thought of that ladyboy c*nt getting hold of a trophy at our expense fucks me off even more.

Ah well. Gonna have a few scoops and try to forget about it.

Aki

[the good half]

Haha - what the fuck? In what way is it disgraceful? Sorry beyond disgraceful...

Alan, I never met you, and Im not English (wether you care or not) but nobody should 'boo' any anthem before a game.
If its the Gerries or the French.
Never ever.

[shelovesyou]

You`re shooting with Althea ? Nice shooting.

Haha.

[blert596]

Shouldn't have waited until Chelsea had scored their second + 10 minutes before changing the plan - it was obvious after the first it wasn't working for us

And yet if Andys header goes in we're all happy as larry.

An inch or two and its perfect timing. An inch or two and its a poor judgement.

[gamble]

Enrique always looks to play himself out of danger, always looks to play the ball and keep it in play when defending. just wish he learnt to sometimes boot it out for a throw in, and in this game if he took ramires out it wouldn't have been a goal.

collective mistakes lead to goals being conceded.

[shelovesyou]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/kenny-we-ll-grow-from-this



"The way they finished the last half hour should give them the belief and confidence that they are better than they think they are.

Very important that sentence from Kenny.

[morgsa]

Game needed Lucas, Henderson and Spearing were all over the place

I do think that if lucas was out there today we would not of lost.  But i do think we can learn from this and be the better fot it.  Kenny must have learned, if he didnt know already, which players are not good enough.

[-Q-]

Personally, I support the England team for precisely that reason. Nice to have shared experiences with your fellow countryman which you can cherish together and feel pride in what you collectively stand for. It's the same with Liverpool, mind, but that doesn't mean that something like the World Cup or European Championships shouldn't be an opportunity to support my country. What I don't really understand is people on here willing England to lose. I know that maybe players like Gerrard swanning off to Ukraine and South Africa probably isn't ideal for his fitness, but why not enjoy it? You don't have to support just one team...(and I know the FA is run by a lot of technocratic, greedy cuntbags, too, but so were we for a few years and that didn't stop me supporting Liverpool Football Club)

I've got no problem with people supporting England to fulfill some inner need to generate a sense of belonging to some strangers with whom you share an island or even getting all jingoistic at the dirge they call a national anthem, that is their business.  I do however resent being harangued for not partaking.

[inexorably red]

not many comments on Pepe?

[The G in Gerrard]

Don't think they were that good to be honest. We were just worse up until 60 mins. Anyway, a lot of the concerns this season were again apparent today. I hope we address them in the summer.

Without jumping to conclusions, JW Henry didn't look over the moon.

Thing is they didn't need to be good, they just wanted to play us on the counter, we only created one good effort up until the goal.

[ThisisAnfield96]

not many comments on Pepe?

See his thread

[Paullfc95]

I dont think the team selection was as bad as people were making out. Spearing and Henderson seemed completely out of their depth for such an occasion such as the fa cup final. Gerrard could see they were struggling so had to sit in to help them. This left Suarez horribly isolated on his own.
Yes I agree Carroll should have started, but I feel the 1st half performance could have been a lot better if spearing and henderson wernt so inexperienced and nervous. But that will come with time.
Can't have any arguments with the result. We simply werent good enough.
I still have confidence in kenny that he will turn this round. Stability is what we need. There's no point in changing manager every 2 years. People need time in life.
YNWA

[Dirk18Kuyt]

I can't wait for this season to be over. LFC's players, staff, and fans need a break from football.

Yeah, most of them forever.

Think Johnson, Agger and Skrtel are the only ones who can be proud of this season and they're the kind of players who won't be happy with it.

Awful.

[Coady]

For my money, Spearing is another Lucas. We wanted Lucas gone a few years back and now we all love him. Give the lad another year.

Difference is Spearing is 23, not 19.

[OperationIvy]

Enrique always looks to play himself out of danger, always looks to play the ball and keep it in play when defending. just wish he learnt to sometimes boot it out for a throw in, and in this game if he took ramires out it wouldn't have been a goal.

collective mistakes lead to goals being conceded.

he shouldnt have had to take Ramierez out his positioning was awful.

[shelovesyou]

Like this?

[Alan_X]

This shit possess me off, grow up Liverpool is in England FACT, get over it.

And you're a bad, bad bell. I don't think anyone is so fucking stupid that they actually believe Liverpool is not within the geographic boundaries of England or the United Kingdom.

It's a state of mind not a geography GSCE question...  FACT

[progress]

If it's any consolation, Barcelona lost to Chelsea by 1 goal too. We can't be that far behind. The odds were always stacked against us to be playing away from home in a hostile environment without Lucas et al.

[The Ghost of Titi Camara]

Personally, I support the England team for precisely that reason. Nice to have shared experiences with your fellow countryman which you can cherish together and feel pride in what you collectively stand for. It's the same with Liverpool, mind, but that doesn't mean that something like the World Cup or European Championships shouldn't be an opportunity to support my country. What I don't really understand is people on here willing England to lose. I know that maybe players like Gerrard swanning off to Ukraine and South Africa probably isn't ideal for his fitness, but why not enjoy it? You don't have to support just one team...(and I know the FA is run by a lot of technocratic, greedy cuntbags, too, but so were we for a few years and that didn't stop me supporting Liverpool Football Club)

My allegiances to anything and anyone are based on my values, not geographical coincidence. I have my own ideology, which doesn't tally with that of the state, nor with most of my countrymen, nor with the institutions that surround football in this country. In fact, most of English football is designed precisely to contradict my values and my ideology, designed to distract, designed to feed corporate greed, designed to nurture an apolitical, nihilistic, materialistic, nationalistic, delusional, self-indulgent barbarianism. I want nothing to do with it and I'm certainly not going to sing its praises.

[mercurial]

I cannot get my head around us getting less than 58 points this season. You can? I support Liverpool FC not the manager or any individual player. Fortunately the owners share my opinion and not yours. Noone is beyond criticism. Get over the plastic club BS. We need to make decisions that move us forward. We tried with Kenny and I supported it at the time. I'd did not work out.
Yes I support the Chicago Bulls too, so what's your point?

That supporting the manager of the club is the way forward. Criticizing him is undermining him. It takes time to build a team. A new manager will not have the space that Kenny has and will be given even less of a room to play with. Kenny deserves another season based on his achievements as a manager. IF you support the club then it does not make sense to get rid of a manager every few season. The decision to move us forward in terms of the manager is not to make one. The very fact that you supported Kenny and now think its wrong tells me how fickle you are and those of your ilk are the persons who will draw out the knives for the next one in line. You do not deserve to support Liverpool. Be thankful that you got the chance to experience the cup finals over the years, most supporters in this world don't get that often as we do. Part of that secret recipe is that the supporters of this club support the club and the manager even after they lose. Maybe it will take you a few years to understand that, its called educating yourself about the club.

[Snoopy29]

Liverpool did me proud personally, and so did Carroll. I felt as if Liverpool FC were the only original team out there today, seriously.

Enrique was slow, and defenders had their problem, and reina should have saved the first goal.

Everything else was really good. Chelsea just got lucky, and I'm over it to be honest with you.

Liverpool FC must build as someone here has previously said. Henderson needs to do alot better, feel like he showed small glimpses but not doing enough, and Enrique is just dam slow, too much muscle.

Reina needs to get his act together when it comes to saving shots, mabe it's easy to say, but I really thought he'd be able to have saved those shots.


Chelsea didn't impress much, even though they decided to defend their lead, they did fuck all :/

[drpepe]

our squad is too small to cope with the number of games we have had this season

enrique has been pooor for a few weeks

next season we need to manage the squad better so that players are not playing to many games

i would play shelvey now for the next 2 games

i think we have missed a trick not playing shelvey today

hmmm..not even in europe How are we supposed to cope next season? (assuming we qualify)

i think the problem is less to do with the number of games and more to do with the quality we lack in key areas (namely up front and cm)

[mikeb58]

Carroll finally won me over today. He was brilliant.

As for the result, there's no shame in losing like that to the CL finalists. Chins up for next season... we're gonna show 'em what we're really like.

Said this before, we closely lost 2-1 to the CL Finalists, who were the favourites to win. You'd think we'd just been battered by a bunch of non hopers judging by some peoples reaction.

The game couldn't have been any closer and whether Carrols effort was in or not, once again an opposing goalie has made a wonder save to deny us this season.

That and hitting the woodwork an incredible 40 times in one season does have an element of bad luck about it no matter what you may think.

[Stretch Armstrong]

And yet if Andys header goes in we're all happy as larry.

An inch or two and its perfect timing. An inch or two and its a poor judgement.

On the coach home so only seen the screenies here but it's looks like a tight call - wonder if Chelsea fans will now accept the Garcia goal

[jack witham]

I do not class myself as English,I am Scouse ,England can fuck right off!

[echis]

Carroll's still was. Every Liverpool fan at least deserves the right to know this fact.



Last time I'm posting this image, I promise!

I made that picture in order to prove something completely different. I've seen too many people using it as evidence of the ball crossing the line, which it does not prove at all, and I've decided to take it down.

[artanis]

Paraphrasing but Kenny, post game said, that Chelsea players are experienced but we had youngsters. Well if that was the problem maybe Maxi would have helped a bit in that department. But who cares. Next season cannot come soon enough.

[WhiteHeat]

Said this before, we closely lost 2-1 to the CL Finalists, who were the favourites to win. You'd think we'd just been battered by a bunch of non hopers judging by some peoples reaction.

The game couldn't have been any closer and whether Carrols effort was in or not, once again an opposing goalie has made a wonder save to deny us this season.

That and hitting the woodwork an incredible 40 times in one season does have an element of bad luck about it no matter what you may think.

It also has an element of poor finishing though to hit it that many times.

[GBF]

Very important that sentence from Kenny.

the way we finished the game is because he has put 2 strikers up front, he didnt change anything after seeing 45mins of it - had to wait till we are 2 goals down to do it

[barneyk100]

I'll tell you what I'm taking from that, Carrolls simmering anger at the end. The future is bright, the future is red. Yes you build a winning mentality from winning things but you also get pissed losing and come next season you come back, you come back with vengence. YNWA

[sirKennyDaggers]

I dont think the team selection was as bad as people were making out. Spearing and Henderson seemed completely out of their depth for such an occasion such as the fa cup final. Gerrard could see they were struggling so had to sit in to help them. This left Suarez horribly isolated on his own.
Yes I agree Carroll should have started, but I feel the 1st half performance could have been a lot better if spearing and henderson wernt so inexperienced and nervous. But that will come with time.
Can't have any arguments with the result. We simply werent good enough.
I still have confidence in kenny that he will turn this round. Stability is what we need. There's no point in changing manager every 2 years. People need time in life.
YNWA

Spot on mate,we werent good enough but lets give Kenny the time to turn it round.

[RojoLeón]

And as for the booing of the national anthem, that was beyond disgraceful!

Appologies if this has already been pointed out: Don't the English NT fans boo the opposing teams national anthem at every single game they attend - without fail?

Maybe except Northern Ireland who have GStQ as their national anthem also.

Fuck GStQ - awful dirge to entrenched aristocratic elitism.

[dave 5516]

You talk about it like its a seperate entity, Liverpool is part of England.

Physically,yeah.Not mentally.

[lfcshaunod]

Has anyone been banned yet?

[bepoq]

I cannot get my head around us getting less than 58 points this season. You can? I support Liverpool FC not the manager or any individual player. Fortunately the owners share my opinion and not yours. Noone is beyond criticism. Get over the plastic club BS. We need to make decisions that move us forward. We tried with Kenny and I supported it at the time. I'd did not work out.
Yes I support the Chicago Bulls too, so what's your point?

It is not clear yet what the owners think, is it?

But more importantly, there's really no difference for you is there? You could be supporting Chelsea, or one of the Manchesters or the other London clubs. Wouldn't be any different would it, other that the colour of the jerseys and some of the songs. The only thing that would change is that you would happen to have been introduced them first as a fan instead of us. There's no other connection. Sorry mate, I can't get my head around it, or around supporting another team of whatever sport on a Liverpool Football Club website. Just makes no sense to me. Simply putting it down to results weren't as good as you'd hoped in one season at the expense of one of the club's and city's greatest servants is peculiar. It suggests to me that you actually have no idea what being part of Liverpool Football Club should mean. I mean, afterall, it's just the same as the Bulls for you eh?

Although, what would happen if Michael Jordan came back to coach the Bulls and in his first year in charge made a couple of bad trades and the team failed to make the playoffs. Just fuck him straight off eh?

[blah]

Has anyone been banned yet?

I'd just unplug the server for the night if I ran RAWK.

[mikeb58]

It also has an element of poor finishing though to hit it that many times.

Yeah, I realise that as well but it is a freakish stat all the same.