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« Reply #240 on: November 1, 2012, 07:42:38 pm »
Nah, why wouldn't they announce that along with the deal?  I'd fucking love it to be Brad Bird though.

And would they start pre-production before the deal went through? What if it all went tits up?
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« Reply #241 on: November 1, 2012, 08:06:43 pm »
Any announcement for VII will be huge - any plans right now will be in the tentative stage.

It's definitely something that will be unveiled with great fanfare.  That's publicity you can't pass up.
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« Reply #242 on: November 1, 2012, 08:09:02 pm »
Nah, why wouldn't they announce that along with the deal?

Actually, there's a good reason for that: the deal still has to go through the anti-trust laws, so there's no point annoucing projects until everything is rubber-stamped.
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« Reply #243 on: November 1, 2012, 08:24:17 pm »
Nah, why wouldn't they announce that along with the deal?  I'd fucking love it to be Brad Bird though.

And would they start pre-production before the deal went through? What if it all went tits up?
how many films start prepping and then get shit canned? And they did announce a film, coming out in less than three years, so they probably have explored it somewhat.

However that twitter could well be total shite so we will see.
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« Reply #244 on: November 1, 2012, 08:46:56 pm »
I wouldn't know about Harry Potter.  I've never read the books or watched the films.  I do know, however, that the HP films started production before all the books were done.  People who got hooked on the first few books were happy to see film versions and how they compared to the books, and this, in my opinion, was the driving force behind the franchise. 

With the Thrawn trilogy, they've been out for over 20 years already.  Yes it'd be nice seeing how they'd translate to the big screen but at the end of the day we know how it ends. 

It's not like Lord of the Rings, where they tried to ensure the story remained true to the spirit of the books, but at the same time broaden it's appeal to reach an audience beyond the hard core readers.  We live in a world saturated with Star Wars; I'd be very surprised to meet somebody under the age of thirty who hasn't at least heard about Grand Admiral Thrawn or Mara Jade.

On a side note, I'd like to see the Han Solo Adventures (Han Solo at Stars' End, Han Solo's Revenge, Han Solo and the Lost Legacy) turned into films, possibly adjusting them to fit better into the existing universe.  These are likely books that few people outside the purists will have read (I've only managed to read two of them).  It would also give an opportunity to introduce a new actor to play Han, which could then offer a stepping stone link into new dedicated SW movies.

I think you're over-estimating the reach of Zahn's books, and probably the EU books in general. To be honest, I'd be surprised if 10% of people under 30 had heard of Thrawn or Jade.

The books are about 20 years old, and they don't have main stream impact like LotR or Harry Potter.

Yes, the world is saturated in Star Wars. But these days the period after the end of the original trilogy doesn't get that much attention, (especially outside of books).
A lot of the kids stuff these days seems to concentrate on the Clone Wars stuff.
You've got the settings of during the prequel trilogy, the original trilogy, and the period in between.
Then there's stuff quite far back in history (the Old Republic stuff etc.)
Only then do you get to the post-Return of the Jedi stuff.


In general terms, films these days seem to favour going back and doing reboot/origin stories.
The problem with Star Wars is the prequel trilogy already exists.
But as you mention, I think there is scope to something with someone like Han Solo, who wasn't involved in the prequels at all.
(Although apparently an early Lucas draft had a 10 year-old solo on Kashyyyk in Revenge of the Sith)

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« Reply #245 on: November 1, 2012, 09:17:05 pm »
By the way, they've already said they're ignoring the expanded universe and making an original film. The best idea I reckon.
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« Reply #246 on: November 1, 2012, 09:19:00 pm »
how many films start prepping and then get shit canned? And they did announce a film, coming out in less than three years, so they probably have explored it somewhat.

However that twitter could well be total shite so we will see.

I meant announce Brad Bird is directing at the same time, it would be a great bit of news.

Anyway, it just looks like speculation to me. And I'd be gutted if Lindelof was the writer :D
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« Reply #247 on: November 1, 2012, 09:41:01 pm »
I can go either way on him. I think he's at least co writing the new Star Trek, so we will see.
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« Reply #248 on: November 1, 2012, 09:45:38 pm »
I meant announce Brad Bird is directing at the same time, it would be a great bit of news.

Anyway, it just looks like speculation to me. And I'd be gutted if Lindelof was the writer :D

Yep, the film would be one long tease. It would build up and up, Jedi fighting the good fight and enemies plotting inticate schemes - What will happen to our heroes? Who is the masked villain? What is the deal with the numbers?

Then just when you expect a crescendo, you instead get some religious - in this case mitichlorin - crap and an arty farty 'happy' ending in a church. Whoopee!

Can't wait ;)

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« Reply #249 on: November 1, 2012, 09:47:46 pm »
I can go either way on him. I think he's at least co writing the new Star Trek, so we will see.

As long as someone reins him in, then they'll be fine. His problem before was promising too much and not being able to wrap up all the threads. Star Trek films aren't exactly known for massive amounts of plot compared to action, certainly not recent ones so he's probably fine for it.

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« Reply #250 on: November 1, 2012, 09:51:18 pm »
If Lindelof can swing Kate from Lost in a gold bikini, he can write all future Star Wars movies as far as I'm concerned.

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« Reply #251 on: November 5, 2012, 12:09:04 pm »
Hahaha, Ive got to be honest mate and say I enjoyed the fight v Dooku. Though I think I laughed when it happened, so thats maybe not the best reaction when theres an important fight scence. Though thats the thing, he was all badass, as you say, and flying round the gaff, yet v Palaptine he just gave up like a bitch. And theres another thing. If you are going to have Samuel L Jackson as a Jedi, he has to be the baddest mutha fucking Jedi ever. He wasnt :(

Well Mace Windu actually was a badass mofo, he just was terribly written. Windu created Vaapad a really aggresive light saber combat technique - it was borderline dabling with the darkside to gain the aggressive stance he used (Windu was the only person not to fall to the dark side using that form of combat) So the guy was a serious conflict of interests and should of been a guy on the edge.

Lucas ruined so many of the Jedi - don't get me started on Qui-Gon Jinn

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« Reply #252 on: November 5, 2012, 12:28:08 pm »
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« Reply #254 on: November 5, 2012, 12:49:30 pm »
Well Mace Windu actually was a badass mofo, he just was terribly written. Windu created Vaapad a really aggresive light saber combat technique - it was borderline dabling with the darkside to gain the aggressive stance he used (Windu was the only person not to fall to the dark side using that form of combat) So the guy was a serious conflict of interests and should of been a guy on the edge.

Lucas ruined so many of the Jedi - don't get me started on Qui-Gon Jinn
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« Reply #255 on: November 5, 2012, 12:53:26 pm »
That was my point mate, Mace and Samuel were made for each other.

Yeah it was a huge disapointment, actually the whole first 3 were one massive clusterfuck.

I for one am optimistic about Disney taking over, Lucas wont be able to bastardise Star Wars anymore.

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« Reply #256 on: November 5, 2012, 12:56:01 pm »
Yeah it was a huge disapointment, actually the whole first 3 were one massive clusterfuck.

I for one am optimistic about Disney taking over, Lucas wont be able to bastardise Star Wars anymore.
Dont hold your breath on that one kid. He may have some role, and that role may not be to everyones liking.
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« Reply #257 on: November 5, 2012, 01:10:28 pm »
I think his influence will be superficial.  They'll nod, be polite and indulge him, but ultimately they'll do it their own way.
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« Reply #258 on: November 5, 2012, 01:25:31 pm »
I think Lucas is bound to be consulted over a great deal of both minor and major details for the upcoming films, but Disney will realise as much as anyone how poor the prequels were, they're not going to want to risk that investment by relying on Lucas' judgement too heavily.

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« Reply #259 on: November 5, 2012, 01:43:10 pm »
Qui-Gon Jinn should have been the crowning role in Neeson's career, instead he was just a cardboard stereotype of wasted potential. He was supposed to be this wise old master but every fucking thing he says in Phantom Menace is just a bad idea.

He should have played McGuinness's Obi-Wan character instead.

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« Reply #260 on: November 5, 2012, 02:11:13 pm »
Qui-Gon Jinn should have been the crowning role in Neeson's career, instead he was just a cardboard stereotype of wasted potential. He was supposed to be this wise old master but every fucking thing he says in Phantom Menace is just a bad idea.

He should have played McGuinness's Obi-Wan character instead.
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« Reply #261 on: November 5, 2012, 02:33:17 pm »
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« Reply #262 on: November 5, 2012, 02:41:09 pm »
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« Reply #263 on: November 5, 2012, 03:15:19 pm »
Qui-Gon Jinn should have been the crowning role in Neeson's career, instead he was just a cardboard stereotype of wasted potential. He was supposed to be this wise old master but every fucking thing he says in Phantom Menace is just a bad idea.

He should have played McGuinness's Obi-Wan character instead.

The fact they completly ignored the huge history between Jinn and Dooku showed sheer ignorance for the greater story. They went for pure commercialisation and portrayed Dooku as his purely evil character when it wasn't so cut and dry (Dooku's original intentions was to remove the corruption in the Republic)

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« Reply #264 on: November 5, 2012, 03:49:08 pm »
Which books/comics are you guys reading these back story's in by the way? Would love to read up more on Mace and Dooku.
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« Reply #265 on: November 5, 2012, 03:57:37 pm »
I hate it when people go on about star wars fiction and relate it to the films, the the films should stand alone, shouldnt need to have read a fucking bible before you see them in order to understand the plot.
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« Reply #266 on: November 5, 2012, 04:29:56 pm »
I hate it when people go on about star wars fiction and relate it to the films, the the films should stand alone, shouldnt need to have read a fucking bible before you see them in order to understand the plot.

How do you think the films became what they are? The fiction behind it explains everything that goes on, without it you have no background, history or purpose.

It's like Lord of the Rings without any of the lost tales of the The Similarin. Just because you don't wish for the extended knowledge of a subject doesn't mean others share your sentiment.

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« Reply #267 on: November 5, 2012, 04:36:07 pm »
I hate it when people go on about star wars fiction and relate it to the films, the the films should stand alone, shouldnt need to have read a fucking bible before you see them in order to understand the plot.

I agree. Just like films that tell half a story so you have to watch the sequel. There is no reason why they can't tell a complete, self contained story. Just like Star Wars in fact!

The best thing for episode seven is to be an original story that is not beholden to any other extraneous stories, only the spirit and feel of the films before them.

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« Reply #268 on: November 5, 2012, 04:44:36 pm »
I love the extended universes of different films, but they should be added bits to an already complete story. I've read up about different aspects of Star Wars, Alien, all the superhero films etc and it's great, because the films are self contained story's, but if you want more then it's there.

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« Reply #269 on: November 5, 2012, 04:53:39 pm »
Brad Bird's animated films were a smash and I thought he did a terrific job with Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol.

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At this point Bird must be the Pep Guardiola figure for this film, surely?
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« Reply #270 on: November 5, 2012, 05:08:50 pm »
How do you think the films became what they are? The fiction behind it explains everything that goes on, without it you have no background, history or purpose.

It's like Lord of the Rings without any of the lost tales of the The Similarin. Just because you don't wish for the extended knowledge of a subject doesn't mean others share your sentiment.
Oh right when Star Wars was first released there was a whole shit load of background brought out before it was there? I must have missed that meeting.

Dont in any way compare it to LOTR, the fucking books came first and stand alone on merit as an amazing body of literature. While the expansion that Tolkien did was welcome and interesting,. it added depth, yes, but it wasnt needed to read the Hobbit or LOTR, you didnt need to read the Tale of Beren and Lúthien in order to understand the releationship between Aragorn & Arwen, or know who the fuck Morgoth was and that he was Saurons boss once upon a time.
The extended star wars universe as its called is nothing more than another arm of the fucking toy franchise, its primary reason for existing is as a continuing cash cow based on the intelectual property of the films, the novels, games and comics are purely pulp fiction and in no way on the same level as Tolkiens work. That was all one mans work, not loads of different contributing people with varying degrees of quality in return.

The films are it as far as I am concerned, I dont give a shit about other mediums, interesting as they might be, and with the games as fun as they might be, the films are the canon and the basis for everything else, everything else can go suck my dick, if its not on the screen it doesnt really exist in context as far as I am concerned.
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« Reply #271 on: November 5, 2012, 05:31:47 pm »
Oh right when Star Wars was first released there was a whole shit load of background brought out before it was there? I must have missed that meeting.

Dont in any way compare it to LOTR, the fucking books came first and stand alone on merit as an amazing body of literature. While the expansion that Tolkien did was welcome and interesting,. it added depth, yes, but it wasnt needed to read the Hobbit or LOTR, you didnt need to read the Tale of Beren and Lúthien in order to understand the releationship between Aragorn & Arwen, or know who the fuck Morgoth was and that he was Saurons boss once upon a time.
The extended star wars universe as its called is nothing more than another arm of the fucking toy franchise, its primary reason for existing is as a continuing cash cow based on the intelectual property of the films, the novels, games and comics are purely pulp fiction and in no way on the same level as Tolkiens work. That was all one mans work, not loads of different contributing people with varying degrees of quality in return.

The films are it as far as I am concerned, I dont give a shit about other mediums, interesting as they might be, and with the games as fun as they might be, the films are the canon and the basis for everything else, everything else can go suck my dick, if its not on the screen it doesnt really exist in context as far as I am concerned.

I don't see where you needed any of the more recent canon to enjoy any of the 6 films (matter of view obviously as the first 3 were terrible)

I actually agree the 3 films should be standalone, but that's not to say some of the possibilities from things such as Sidius not being dead or Luke falling to the darkside temporarily etc. wouldn't be great stories - not a trilogy but still..

p.s. I used Tolkiens work as an example, in no way was I comparing the 2 in terms of literacy. Episodes 4/5/6 came out on their own and established the Star Wars Universe, so in a way they are similar to how the Lord of the Rings established Middle Earth to it's audience.

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« Reply #272 on: November 5, 2012, 06:41:08 pm »
not so sure, he will have Kathleen Kennedys ear no doubt.

Unlikely IMO. Kennedy only joined Lucasfilm in June - in hindsight, obviously being moved into position in anticipation of the takeover. She's a massively successful producer in her own right, not some Lucasfilm lackey left behind by George. And after paying someone $4bn, it's quite reasonable to expect them to fuck off and leave you to it. The "creative consultant" thing will just be a sop to Lucas' ego.

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #273 on: November 5, 2012, 07:52:55 pm »
I'm hoping Plinkett is gonna just do a quick video of his reaction to the news. Can't wait for the reviews!  :D

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« Reply #274 on: November 5, 2012, 09:16:53 pm »
Latest rumour is Matthew Vaughn might be directing. He has just suddenly left the First Class sequel...

He knows how to do action and adventure type stuff pretty well.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #275 on: November 6, 2012, 12:01:30 am »
Vaughn would be a solid choice. Not inspiring exactly...I'd love Disney to put young Duncan Jones (a visionary director in the making, methinks) in charge and let him do for Star Wars what (then young and up-and-coming directors) Peter Jackson and Chris Nolan did for LotR and Batman respectively. Not inspiring...but solid.

Still, as ESB proves, get the right script and you can have a journeyman director* helming and still get that Star Wars magic.

*Irvin Kershner had directed a bunch of stuff nobody remembers now before Empire, and went on to scale the heights of crap Connery-returns Bond flick Never Say Never Again, and equally crap Robocop sequel.

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #276 on: November 6, 2012, 02:39:25 pm »
Even more recent rumour is that Harrison Ford would be interested in playing Han Solo again.

Huuuuge surprise, an actor would be interested in making shit loads of money, isn't it?
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #277 on: November 6, 2012, 03:33:43 pm »
Even more recent rumour is that Harrison Ford would be interested in playing Han Solo again.

Huuuuge surprise, an actor would be interested in making shit loads of money, isn't it?


Well, Ford, Hamill and Fisher are the right ages to be in the next three...  I'm not sure Harrison Ford needs to worry about money any more.

Mind you, David Prowse still hasn't been paid for Return Of The Jedi.
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« Reply #278 on: November 6, 2012, 03:33:53 pm »
Even more recent rumour is that Harrison Ford would be interested in playing Han Solo again.

Huuuuge surprise, an actor would be interested in making shit loads of money, isn't it?

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #279 on: November 6, 2012, 03:38:20 pm »
*Irvin Kershner had directed a bunch of stuff nobody remembers now before Empire, and went on to scale the heights of crap Connery-returns Bond flick Never Say Never Again, and equally crap Robocop sequel.

If I remember rightly, Irvin only did Empire as a favour to Lucas.  I don't think he intended to be a blockbuster Director, more that any jobs he got offered were 'paying the bills' so to speak.

There's not much wrong with Never Say Never, other than the basic premise of the whole enterprise was dodgy to say the least.  Not much any director could do about a dodgy remake without any of the signature music and features that makes a Bond movie Bond, and a lead actor that looked too old to play the part back when he left the role in 1971.
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