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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #80 on: April 25, 2018, 11:57:36 pm »
No I didn't make it up;


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Russophobia&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHFX_enGB526GB526&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwil0cuJwdbaAhXkLsAKHclKDDAQ_AUoAXoECAAQAw&biw=1366&bih=637


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Russian_sentiment





Like I said, you used it flippantly in response to someone describing Putin's reign as mafia like. So you cited it when noone had even said anything that follows the definition for it you just quoted.

Also Nobby was not being anti-russian. He was being anti-Putin (and pro-truth)

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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2018, 12:02:10 am »
But it is on Wikipedia and google searches.  :butt
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2018, 12:15:47 am »
Like I said, you used it flippantly in response to someone describing Putin's reign as mafia like. So you cited it when noone had even said anything that follows the definition for it you just quoted.

Also Nobby was not being anti-russian. He was being anti-Putin (and pro-truth)

He specifically said Russian Federation and used the mafia stereotype
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2018, 12:22:47 am »
He specifically said Russian Federation and used the mafia stereotype

And you implied you've "spoken directly to people on the ground or at least family members of those that are" when forming (or parroting) your new-found knowledge on the situation on the ground there from twitter. 

Organised crime among those who hold power is well documented fact. It's not a stereotype. If I called Theresa May incompetent, would that be Anglophobic in your book?

Take your own advice and seek out real people to discuss this with. Twitter isn't a helpful tool for an impressionable mind
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2018, 12:26:08 am »
And you implied you've "spoken directly to people on the ground or at least family members of those that are" when forming (or parroting) your new-found knowledge on the situation on the ground there from twitter.

Organised crime among those who hold power is well documented fact. It's not a stereotype. If I called Theresa May incompetent, would that be Anglophobic in your book?
No but it'd be similar if you called the British public incompetent - are you genuinely not believing me about knowing Russian people in real life? Do you want me to PM you a pic of me in St Petersburg  ;D
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2018, 12:35:25 am »
No but it'd be similar if you called the British public incompetent - are you genuinely not believing me about knowing Russian people in real life? Do you want me to PM you a pic of me in St Petersburg  ;D

You are not going to get Russians slagging of Putin and his cronies to an Brit in St Petersburg in the same way you won't get a N.Korean slagging off Kim Young-un.


Russophobia gtf.
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2018, 09:59:26 am »
No but it'd be similar if you called the British public incompetent - are you genuinely not believing me about knowing Russian people in real life? Do you want me to PM you a pic of me in St Petersburg  ;D

You answered "yes" to someone saying are you getting these views from twitter, it was misleading

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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2018, 10:36:01 am »
You answered "yes" to someone saying are you getting these views from twitter, it was misleading
Read the bit I quoted and said yes to, why would anyone say they get their views from twitter of all places
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2018, 12:44:45 pm »
Read the bit I quoted and said yes to, why would anyone say they get their views from twitter of all places

It may weĺl be that the people you know in Russia are the type of people who think a murderous slime ball of a leader who has extracted the wealth of the poorest for the benefit of the privileged few is someone who they would happily vote for. It does not detract from the nature of Putin himself or the well-evidenced election tampering he indulges in.
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2018, 01:00:25 pm »
On the topic of the dog, this is a really interesting one. I think at the heart of it is the issue of private vs public life and how we see personal rights and social responsibility in a social media landscape which has demolished the idea of a private sphere. As I understand it, he put the video on social media to share with his friends. However, the impression that you can do this is a false one, as it quickly became viral and instead of occupying a private space, it ended up being big news in a public sphere. Now, humour is nothing without context, as has been said before on this thread. However, in the context of a public arena it is quite a ghastly video. We don't know this guy, we don't know his girlfriend, we know precious little about the dog. But because people have come across this in a public space, they're treating it as material designed to be seen by a public audience. As a video made for that purpose it is gross, crass and unacceptable. As a video for a private audience, it could probably be seen as quite funny.

If I'm honest when this first came up in the news a while ago, I assumed it would lead to some animal rights intervention, hadn't thought it would get this far.
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Re: Nazi Saluting Dog
« Reply #90 on: April 26, 2018, 05:06:11 pm »
I think it would be funny if John Mann got a film crew together ( preferably the BBC ) before ambushing Ken Livingston and asking "Do you want to gas the Jews" With Ken raising an eyebrow 23 times, before super imposing pics of Ken and Grofaz together...  :)