Topic: Spurs: fucking useless

[Brian Blessed]

Should be, though. Four points per game.

How do we get you put in charge of the PL?

[So… Howard Philips]

We now bring you your regular reminder that Everton have nine league titles to their name. (And Villa won the European Cup ffs.) Spurs have nothing on either of those clubs.

And Everton will/maybe/possibly/usual caveats apply have a swank new stadium as well.

[CraigDS]

And Everton will/maybe/possibly/usual caveats apply have a swank new stadium as well.

Yeah but theirs is getting paid for by Usmanov after he rides into town on his white unicorn with a sack full of cash.

[So… Howard Philips]

Yeah but theirs is getting paid for by Usmanov after he rides into town on his white unicorn with a sack full of cash.

A sack full of cash?

You must be joking. £15.1 billion pounds will fill many sacks and will need a whole herd of unicorns to carry them.

[newterp]

A sack full of cash?

You must be joking. £15.1 billion pounds will fill many sacks and will need a whole herd of unicorns to carry them.

He can, fortunately, afford said herd of unicorns. 

Most ordinary billionaires can't, but he is no ordinary billionaire.

[CraigDS]

A sack full of cash?

You must be joking. £15.1 billion pounds will fill many sacks and will need a whole herd of unicorns to carry them.

It's the worlds biggest sack though, and he's riding the biggest unicorn ever seen.

[Nessy76]

How do we get you put in charge of the PL?

Be careful what you wish for mate. I'm banning buttons on kits, betting sponsors, teams from Manchester and London and Gary sodding Neville in my first 24 hours in the job.

[afc tukrish]

It's the worlds biggest sack though, and he's riding the biggest unicorn ever seen.

Keys is riding the unicorn?

[moondog]

He can, fortunately, afford said herd of unicorns. 

Most ordinary billionaires can't, but he is no ordinary billionaire.

I think 'll find its a Blessing of Unicorns, not a herd.

[mgs88]

It's the worlds biggest sack though, and he's riding the biggest unicorn ever seen.

Handing out blue make Everton great again hats.

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[TepidT2O]

Papers tonight saying the stadium delays are likely to be far worse than currently stated (who would have guessed?)

Some saying the worst case scenario is February...


Must ...not.... laugh...

[planet-terror]

https://youtu.be/yuTMWgOduFM
Another cheating bastard in delle alli. 0.18s.   Fuck sake.

[vivabobbygraham]

Which fixture do we not have a venue for?

How far's Hackney Marshes?

[TepidT2O]

https://youtu.be/yuTMWgOduFM
Another cheating bastard in delle alli. 0.18s.   Fuck sake.

I’m just getting Jarvis Cocker.....


Just me?

[idontknow]

I’m just getting Jarvis Cocker.....


Just me?

It does look like Jarvis.
Does he dive?

[thekitkatshuffler]

It does look like Jarvis.
Does he dive?

It's the eye celebration thing.  Not really the same, mind.

[planet-terror]

Look. It proves hes a cheat and copycat. Thats all that matters. Right.  Goodnight.

[Skeeve]

A sack full of cash?

You must be joking. £15.1 billion pounds will fill many sacks and will need a whole herd of unicorns to carry them.

Nah, they will use evertonomics on the dimensions of the sack and one of them will be all that is needed.

[planet-terror]

Oh dear. 🍺🍸🍸🍼🍺
Drunken state.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Apparently the guys working there have had their contracts extended to Christmas, how they thought they could get this done in one year is beyond me

[Tommy_W]

Apparently the guys working there have had their contracts extended to Christmas, how they thought they could get this done in one year is beyond me

They were always going to be working up until at least Christmas anyway. The intention was never to have the stadium finished by the Liverpool game - just to have it up to a standard safe enough to play it there.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

They were always going to be working up until at least Christmas anyway. The intention was never to have the stadium finished by the Liverpool game - just to have it up to a standard safe enough to play it there.

what would the capacity have been for it, wouldn’t be close to full, even when we extended the main there were quite a lot of seats In the corners that couldn’t be sold

[Kekule]

UEFA allowing them to use Wembley and then switch to the new ground if it’s ready, and if they get through, for the knockout rounds, the EFL allowing them to switch any and all League Cup ties should they be drawn at home, the FA allowing them to use two (possibly three) grounds for their home league matches.

Why are they all bending over backwards for them with no hint of a fine, deduction or punishment at all?  There’s no way the Spurs hierarchy didn’t know that it was going to be delayed to this extent.  They’ve tried to pull the wool over the governing bodies eyes and have been allowed to get away with it.  Spurs are taking the piss at this point.  If it’s not going to be ready until the end of the year the FA should grow some bollocks and tell them they have to play at Wembley for the whole season.

[Tommy_W]

what would the capacity have been for it, wouldn’t be close to full, even when we extended the main there were quite a lot of seats In the corners that couldn’t be sold

Pretty sure the plan was to have it at full capacity! There were gonna be a couple of test events in the next 2 weeks which would have had a capacity of around 30,000ish and then the Liverpool game would have been the full 62,000ish.

[TepidT2O]

UEFA allowing them to use Wembley and then switch to the new ground if it’s ready, and if they get through, for the knockout rounds, the EFL allowing them to switch any and all League Cup ties should they be drawn at home, the FA allowing them to use two (possibly three) grounds for their home league matches.

Why are they all bending over backwards for them with no hint of a fine, deduction or punishment at all?  There’s no way the Spurs hierarchy didn’t know that it was going to be delayed to this extent.  They’ve tried to pull the wool over the governing bodies eyes and have been allowed to get away with it.  Spurs are taking the piss at this point.  If it’s not going to be ready until the end of the year the FA should grow some bollocks and tell them they have to play at Wembley for the whole season.

Why should they be punished?  I don’t get that.

They’re building s new stadium... that isn’t necessarily gojng to be ready for the first day of a season.  Stopping teams chopping and changing stadiums is surely only to stop them gaining a competitive advantage.. this clearly isn’t the case with spurs.

[Thats So Dimitar]

UEFA allowing them to use Wembley and then switch to the new ground if it’s ready, and if they get through, for the knockout rounds, the EFL allowing them to switch any and all League Cup ties should they be drawn at home, the FA allowing them to use two (possibly three) grounds for their home league matches.

Why are they all bending over backwards for them with no hint of a fine, deduction or punishment at all?  There’s no way the Spurs hierarchy didn’t know that it was going to be delayed to this extent.  They’ve tried to pull the wool over the governing bodies eyes and have been allowed to get away with it.  Spurs are taking the piss at this point.  If it’s not going to be ready until the end of the year the FA should grow some bollocks and tell them they have to play at Wembley for the whole season.

What are you on about? There's no conspiracy here, why is it such a big deal to you that we might use two different stadiums? Why on earth would you think we should get a fine or point deduction for this?

[So… Howard Philips]

Why should they be punished?  I don’t get that.

They’re building s new stadium... that isn’t necessarily gojng to be ready for the first day of a season.  Stopping teams chopping and changing stadiums is surely only to stop them gaining a competitive advantage.. this clearly isn’t the case with spurs.

I agree. As long as the stadium they play in is safe and away fans aren't excluded I don't see any problem.

After all it won't be the only large scale building project not to meet its completion date.

[sms1986]

UEFA allowing them to use Wembley and then switch to the new ground if it’s ready, and if they get through, for the knockout rounds, the EFL allowing them to switch any and all League Cup ties should they be drawn at home, the FA allowing them to use two (possibly three) grounds for their home league matches.

Why are they all bending over backwards for them with no hint of a fine, deduction or punishment at all?  There’s no way the Spurs hierarchy didn’t know that it was going to be delayed to this extent.  They’ve tried to pull the wool over the governing bodies eyes and have been allowed to get away with it.  Spurs are taking the piss at this point.  If it’s not going to be ready until the end of the year the FA should grow some bollocks and tell them they have to play at Wembley for the whole season.

For the European games, it seems to be perfectly fine -

"24.05 In principle, a club must play all its matches in the competition at one and the
same venue. As of the play-offs the venue can be changed only based on a UEFA
decision. A venue may be the ground of the home club or another ground in the
same or another city within the territory of its association. Exceptionally the UEFA
administration may accept a venue in the territory of another UEFA member
association if no other suitable venue is available on the home territory. In
principle, match venues are approved only if direct international flights and/or
charter flights are able to land within an acceptable distance of the venue, in the
country of the club concerned. All match venues are subject to the approval of the
UEFA administration.
24.06 If, at any time during the season, the UEFA administration deems that, for
whatever reason, a venue may not be fit for staging a match, UEFA may consult
the association and club concerned and ask them to propose an alternative
venue, in accordance with the UEFA requirements. Should such an association and
club not be able to propose an acceptable alternative venue by the deadline set
by the UEFA administration, UEFA may select an alternative, neutral venue. The
club concerned will have to make all the necessary arrangements for the staging
of the match together with the relevant association and local authorities. In both
cases, the costs of staging the match are borne by the home club. The UEFA
administration takes a final decision on alternative match venues in due time."
https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/uefaorg/Regulations/02/55/82/79/2558279_DOWNLOAD.pdf

For the League Cup, it seems they need written consent - https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-4---clubs/.

[Kekule]

Why should they be punished?  I don’t get that.

They’re building s new stadium... that isn’t necessarily gojng to be ready for the first day of a season.  Stopping teams chopping and changing stadiums is surely only to stop them gaining a competitive advantage.. this clearly isn’t the case with spurs.

I thought they were building the new one to generate more match day revenue?  They told the FA it would be ready for this season, presumably knowing (or at least having a very strong inkling) that it actually wouldn’t be, in an attempt to let them move in half way through the season and start generating that money earlier.  Had they originally told the FA that it wouldn’t be ready until December the FA might well have told them to piss off.

As it turns out the stadium has cost them so much that it’s probably going to cripple them for the foreseeable future, so as you say they might not get a competitive advantage from it.  It’s just the seemingly cynical nature of it, that seems like an attempt to generate money to start paying it back early that I have a problem with.   

I might be misjudging them and it’s genuinely unforeseeable delays, but my suspicion is that they’re playing the various associations.

[Nessy76]

Why should they be punished?  I don’t get that.

They’re building s new stadium... that isn’t necessarily gojng to be ready for the first day of a season.  Stopping teams chopping and changing stadiums is surely only to stop them gaining a competitive advantage.. this clearly isn’t the case with spurs.

No less inconvenience for everyone else though. People will be making travel plans for games not even knowing where or when they are being played. Good luck buying affordable train tickets at short notice.

The rules are the same for everyone, no excuses. If you can't fulfil your obligations to the richest football league on the planet, from which you earn hundreds of millions a year, then yes you should be penalised.

It does feel like this is settling a terrible precedent, and Spurs are getting very special treatment. Nobody else made them knock down their ground, nobody else approved their designs and construction schedules, it's all on Spurs, but everyone else is expected to bend over backwards for them.

[RJH]

Why should they be punished?  I don’t get that.

They’re building s new stadium... that isn’t necessarily gojng to be ready for the first day of a season.  Stopping teams chopping and changing stadiums is surely only to stop them gaining a competitive advantage.. this clearly isn’t the case with spurs.

As far as I am aware, every other club that has ever moved stadiums or upgraded existing ones have had to work to the "ready for the start of the season" deadline. Any allowances have only been small ones (like Liverpool switching one game for the new Main Stand).

Why should the rules that everyone else had to adhere to not apply to Spurs?
How is that fair on all the other clubs?

[Brian Blessed]

Spurs flat out lied to avoid having to have the entire season at Wembley.

The NFL has contingency plans months ago, so someone knew it was going to very late.


So i can see why they should b punished, I just don’t know what’s  appropriate.

[Caligula?]

Spurs flat out lied to avoid having to have the entire season at Wembley.

The NFL has contingency plans months ago, so someone knew it was going to very late.


So i can see why they should b punished, I just don’t know what’s  appropriate.

Thrashing them in a few weeks' time would be a good start

[Mozology]

If Spurs finish 4th and Utd 5th don't be surprised to see Spurs deducted points.

[Hazell]

Spurs flat out lied to avoid having to have the entire season at Wembley.

The NFL has contingency plans months ago, so someone knew it was going to very late.


So i can see why they should b punished, I just don’t know what’s  appropriate.

Can't they get relegated?

[Nessy76]

Can't they get relegated?

Fat chance. Anyone remember when they were docked 12 points and barred from the FA Cup, only to have both punishments mysteriously overturned?

[The North Bank]

Scandalous what they’re doing , they should be punished and severely.
In fact, I’d have them give back every trophy they’ve won in the last decade.

Edit: oh wait, fuck, that’s no punishment at all.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Scandalous what they’re doing , they should be punished and severely.
In fact, I’d have them give back every trophy they’ve won in the last decade.

Edit: oh wait, fuck, that’s no punishment at all.

That would be the ICC, the "Almost challenged for the league cup", "beat Juventus 2-2 trophy" and "they beat Madrid you know, shield", quite a haul.

[The North Bank]

That would be the ICC, the "Almost challenged for the league cup", "beat Juventus 2-2 trophy" and "they beat Madrid you know, shield", quite a haul.

I’m still bitter at how they beat Juve 2-2, It would be hilarious if that was changed to a draw in the record books, as punishment.

[kloppismydad]

That would be the ICC, the "Almost challenged for the league cup", "beat Juventus 2-2 trophy" and "they beat Madrid you know, shield", quite a haul.

"Put the pressure on" trophy 2015/16.