Topic: General West Ham thread

[sinnermichael]

Sounds like Pellegrini then.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Sounds like Pellegrini then.

He is a decent fella,too nice for that gang of twats though & will be gone by Christmas.

£7m a year 

[aw1991]

Sounds like Pellegrini then.

Actually a very good coach, but a weird fit for some reason.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Actually a very good coach, but a weird fit for some reason.

its the owners that’s the weird in it

[sms1986]

Looks like Pellegrini will be confirmed today - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44163423.

[CraigDS]

This will end in tears. Again.

[B0151?]

Surprisingly good appointment for them.

[bird_lfc]

Great manager but not exactly a long term appointment which I think they needed.. what is he like late 60’s?

[sms1986]

Great manager but not exactly a long term appointment which I think they needed.. what is he like late 60’s?

65 in September according to Wikipedia.

[CraigDS]

Great manager but not exactly a long term appointment which I think they needed.. what is he like late 60’s?

Mid 60s. He just looks like he died about 5 years ago.

[OsirisMVZ]

Great manager but not exactly a long term appointment which I think they needed.. what is he like late 60’s?

Long term in the premier league is anything past 12 months. Its not what it once was.

[WEST HAM PAUL]

Cautiously optimistic , on paper a good appointment
Funds available for him is the big question

Ridiculous comments about his age of 64

Wenger is 68 & Ferguson retired at 73 he didn’t do to bad in his last 9 years

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

Cautiously optimistic , on paper a good appointment
Funds available for him is the big question

Ridiculous comments about his age of 64

Wenger is 68 & Ferguson retired at 73 he didn’t do to bad in his last 9 years

I don't think he would come to fight relegation - he is an appointment to try and break into that top 7 IMO. Just as you say, if he is given the funds.

So many old and injury prone players at WHU - Zabaletta, Evra, Collins, Carroll - even the some of your best players like Antonio and Reid can be injury prone. Hope he gets rid of the the first batch and invests in players who will be available for 90% of the season.

Hope Chicharito sticks around too!

[Clint Eastwood]

Mid 60s. He just looks like he died about 5 years ago.

I don't get how West Ham pulled this off, good appointment. I suppose they've already done Pardew, Allardyce, Moyes.

[Dim Glas]

I quite like Pellegrini, seems a good guy!  Good coach clearly, as he showed way before he went to money bags Man City. I hated the disrespect that their a-hole fans showed him too, so it makes me like him a bit more 

No clue how he'll do at West Ham, they seem to be a bit of a mess behind the scenes. But it's nice to see them appoint him rather than jump on the boring old British manager merry-go-round - yet again.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I don't think he would come to fight relegation - he is an appointment to try and break into that top 7 IMO. Just as you say, if he is given the funds.

So many old and injury prone players at WHU - Zabaletta, Evra, Collins, Carroll - even the some of your best players like Antonio and Reid can be injury prone. Hope he gets rid of the the first batch and invests in players who will be available for 90% of the season.

Hope Chicharito sticks around too!

They binned Collins by email    I hope that they give Evra & Zabaletta 5yr deals & also buy a few more past their sell by date 'experienced' players

[Adam_LFC]

Good Manager but will he really be right for a project such as West Ham? There is a lot of upheaval to be done there.

[bird_lfc]

Cautiously optimistic , on paper a good appointment
Funds available for him is the big question

Ridiculous comments about his age of 64

Wenger is 68 & Ferguson retired at 73 he didn’t do to bad in his last 9 years

Not really ridiculous at all , pal. Wenger has just left after 20 plus years as did Ferguson when he was 73... Pellegrini is 65 walking into a new job following what looked like one last big pay day in China.

[BarryCrocker]

Not really ridiculous at all , pal. Wenger has just left after 20 plus years as did Ferguson when he was 73... Pellegrini is 65 walking into a new job following what looked like one last big pay day in China.

Jupp Heynckes just won the Bundesliga @ 73.

[Chris~]

Jupp Heynckes just won the Bundesliga @ 73.

With Bayern. He could have been 103 and still won that.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Jupp Heynckes just won the Bundesliga @ 73.

Not really comparable as he was only caretaker & retired again when the season finished.

Plus it is West Ham we're talking about.

[WEST HAM PAUL]

Not really ridiculous at all , pal. Wenger has just left after 20 plus years as did Ferguson when he was 73... Pellegrini is 65 walking into a new job following what looked like one last big pay day in China.

Er yes he’s on 3 year contract not 22 years & would be great if he saw out 5 years . In modern football that’s exceptional

[Gerry Attrick]

Pellegrini looks like quite a laissez-faire coach from a distance, Ancelottiesque if you will. I'm not sure West Ham need somebody like that, I wouldn't want to hand a squad like that a lot of responsibility. Works great when you're coaching superstars, not so much when you're coaching mediocre footballers.

[Iska]

Good Manager but will he really be right for a project such as West Ham? There is a lot of upheaval to be done there.

What is the project at West Ham?  It’s a word you hear a lot but it usually means some kind of long-term plan like at City.  I don’t feel like there’s anything long-term about West Ham except the stadium, and that’s done.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

How can this be?

A week ago half you clever dicks were saying Rafa was walking out on Newcastle and going to West Ham.   

[Chris~]

Pellegrini looks like quite a laissez-faire coach from a distance, Ancelottiesque if you will. I'm not sure West Ham need somebody like that, I wouldn't want to hand a squad like that a lot of responsibility. Works great when you're coaching superstars, not so much when you're coaching mediocre footballers.

Underselling him a bit when you look at what he did with Vilarreal and Malaga, hardly full of superstars.

[Gerry Attrick]

Underselling him a bit when you look at what he did with Vilarreal and Malaga, hardly full of superstars.

Those teams had WAY more quality than West Ham. Riquelme, Forlan, Godin and Isco were lacing it up for them for a start. Malaga 2011/12 had Isco, Cazorla, Monreal, Toulalan, Joaquin, Demichelis, Camacho, Baptista. Quality West Ham could only dream of.

[rafathegaffa83]

Pellegrini is a likeable figure. He has to do something to sort out their wretched defence, otherwise West Ham will be back in a relegation dogfight

[WEST HAM PAUL]

I don't think he would come to fight relegation - he is an appointment to try and break into that top 7 IMO. Just as you say, if he is given the funds.

So many old and injury prone players at WHU - Zabaletta, Evra, Collins, Carroll - even the some of your best players like Antonio and Reid can be injury prone. Hope he gets rid of the the first batch and invests in players who will be available for 90% of the season.

Hope Chicharito sticks around too!

Top 7 is optimistic  Ciara 😁

As you say a lot to do with a very disjointed squad.
He needs time & to me success is top 10 & a cup run as a bonus. To stop having this almost annual relegation battles would be nice .

This is a manager with 30 years experience across 3 continents , managed at the highest level & won trophies. This is no Tim Sherwood & Pellegrini is vastly experienced.

West Ham couldn’t ask for more really. Truth is he needs about £60-80 million just to break regular top 10

[kavah]

Pellegrini, Lanzini*, and one or two others, and a bit of luck, and they could be playing decent football and doing well next season. The dark days of Sam and Moyes a distant memory.

*Based on seeing him play once but he looked boss then

[bird_lfc]

Er yes he’s on 3 year contract not 22 years & would be great if he saw out 5 years . In modern football that’s exceptional

I meant in a sense that he was coming in at an older age, you used Wenger and Ferguson as examples of older managers but they were part of the furniture at these clubs at this age

Anyway, don’t mean to sound overly negative - from what I’ve seen he’s a likeable character and he has a very respected career . I just thought they might go long term but yeah I suppose your right in saying 5 years is long term in football nowadays!

They are local to me , the fans I know are all sound and they’ve given us money for the likes of Downing and Carroll In the past so I hope West Ham do well.. it’s again like Newcastle just a shame about owners

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Pellegrini will get them playing proper football and the more clubs that do that, the better it is for us.

[Yiannis]

Pellegrini will get them playing proper football and the more clubs that do that, the better it is for us.

He has to have the players though. Recruitment this summer is massive for them and odds are they're gonna fuck up again.

[Desert Red Fox]

"el Pelle" -as we call him here - is a good manager; sorta underrated/underappreciated even by Chileans because he's a bit more "old fashioned" (he's the most notable disciple of Fernando Riera, a very famous Chilean manager who took our national team to third place in the 1962 WC - and also managed to win the Portuguese League with Benfica) than a proponent of an "all-out attacking" style that is preferred here. Even winning the PL with City that season ( ) wasn't enough for some - basically the old "he had amazing players, of course he should've won the Premier. It would've been a complete failure if he didn't!" card.

He managed to take Villarreal to the semis of the CL back then, too. That's one hell of an accomplishment IMHO and deserving of a lot of respect.

Anyway, I wish him the best. WHU isn't a club I particularly dislike so I hope he can do some good there and manages to 'steady the ship' (ugh) after some turbulent seasons.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Pellegrini looks like quite a laissez-faire coach from a distance, Ancelottiesque if you will. I'm not sure West Ham need somebody like that, I wouldn't want to hand a squad like that a lot of responsibility. Works great when you're coaching superstars, not so much when you're coaching mediocre footballers.

Maybe at City, but his Villarreal and Malaga teams were anything but.

[Max_powers]

Pellegrini is a good appointment. A good coach who plays attacking football. He also has a history of overachieving with smaller teams in Spain.

Their squad makeup and transfer strategy will need to change to if they want to achieve anything more than relegation battles and mid-table mediocrity. Been linked with Yaya Toure now. They need to stop signing aging players based on reputation; Evra, Zabaleta, Arbeloa, Hart etc and the list goes on and on and all of them have been failures.

[Nessy76]

How can this be?

A week ago half you clever dicks were saying Rafa was walking out on Newcastle and going to West Ham.   

Nah, he's having a look at Everton, I hear.

[Something Worse]

How can this be?

A week ago half you clever dicks were saying Rafa was walking out on Newcastle and going to West Ham.   

Don't blame us for being optimistic!

[Dench57]

Bit of a coup for them isn't this? Going from Moyes to Pellegrini, can't complain with that. Seems like a decent bloke and his teams play nice stuff.

[sinnermichael]

Harry Redknapp says West Ham should have “appointed one of the great young managers in this country” instead of Manuel Pellegrini. The same Harry Redknapp who's been keeping these young managers out of jobs for years.