Topic: The Indomitable Ibou

[babraham]

We didn't get a replay for the first ball played from the Dutch half but it looked offside to me. I thought Konate stepped up. Maybe he was late?

He had more to do second half and did well. He was clearly bigger and faster than anyone the Dutch had so anything one on one or aerial was a non-contest in his favour. Didn't get to see that much from him with the ball. Didn't mess anything up but didn't really try much ambitious either. Upamecano was the one being more adventurous so possibly just playing within the system, as you can't have both CBs going full Lucio.

Encouraged by his physical traits and effortless defending. Curious to see more of what he does with the ball.

[Dim Glas]

I don’t mean this as an insult at all, but there’s a touch of the Mamadou Sakho bambi-on-ice-effectiveness in him.

that for me would be an insult 

Thankfully, not seen much to suggest there’s a similarity.  Konate does dive in at times, but he’s nowhere near as reckless and mistake riddled as Sakho.  I’m sure Konate will mature and learn and cut out some of the diving in out of his game. Upamecano actually reminds me more of Sakho, cos when he’s bad, he looks really bad. But can look superb at times too.

[Mighty_Red]

I don’t mean this as an insult at all, but there’s a touch of the Mamadou Sakho bambi-on-ice-effectiveness in him.

Should be a good thing. Apart from the odd cockup on the ball, Sakho had all the tools to be a world class defender but maybe not the mentality. All reports suggest Konate has that mentality and is coming young enough for Jurgen to mould into the right player.

[Boaty McBoatface]

He went to sleep for Kluivert's chance in the first half I thought but made a good saving tackle in the second. He played Kluivert onside for the winner, first standing there with his arm up and then just jogging back.

I hope people aren't expecting him alone to be the magic bullet for our defence. He's got all the tools but he's still raw.

[TepidT2O]

I for one am disgusted and want him sold.

[Dim Glas]

He went to sleep for Kluivert's chance in the first half I thought but made a good saving tackle in the second. He played Kluivert onside for the winner, first standing there with his arm up and then just jogging back.

I hope people aren't expecting him alone to be the magic bullet for our defence. He's got all the tools but he's still raw.

the defence has been very good for a while, even through all the injuries it was solid (just didn’t allow us to play expansively). Not sure what a magic bullet is, you mean like the team needs a big fix or something? 

I think the hope is he adds to an already good set of defenders and squad, and is a much needed addition especially considering last seasons nightmare, and has a lot of youth on his side to improve.

[Boaty McBoatface]

the defence has been very good for a while, even through all the injuries it was solid (just didn’t allow us to play expansively). Not sure what a magic bullet is, you mean like the team needs a big fix or something? 

I think the hope is he adds to an already good set of defenders and squad, and is a much needed addition especially considering last seasons nightmare, and has a lot of youth on his side to improve.

What I mean is if the 3 cb's aren't up to speed, he's not going to carry them.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

I don’t mean this as an insult at all, but there’s a touch of the Mamadou Sakho bambi-on-ice-effectiveness in him.

If Mamadou had the right attitude he would have been our player still.

[Samie]

He's just turned 22 mate. I don't expect him to carry anyone at this stage of his career.

[Boaty McBoatface]

He's just turned 22 mate. I don't expect him to carry anyone at this stage of his career.

Neither do I.

[Dim Glas]

What I mean is if the 3 cb's aren't up to speed, he's not going to carry them.

I doubt anyone thinks he would. We’ve gone weeks with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams playing every game, we adjust accordingly! 

As a starting point, it’s just going to be nice to have another good player in that position, after all that has gone on.

[Boaty McBoatface]

I doubt anyone thinks he would. We’ve gone weeks with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams playing every game, we adjust accordingly! 

As a starting point, it’s just going to be nice to have another good player in that position, after all that has gone on.

True. Lets just hope he gets through pre-season!

[The G in Gerrard]

Welcome & good luck

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

[AndyMuller]

Have we sold him yet?

[gray19lfc]

So is he joining up on 21st? Klopp said all players will get 3 weeks off didn’t he?

Edit: Pre season training not starting until 12 July so he’ll be available for day one!

[Yorkykopite]

If Mamadou had the right attitude he would have been our player still.

I doubt it. He preferred to conclude his tackles by lying down on the floor for a bit. And although he understood it was a good idea to find a midfielder with a ball to feet he didn't appreciate that the midfielder probably didn't want the ball if he was already tightly marked by an opponent. 

[rob1966]

I for one am disgusted and want him sold.

I didn't watch the game, don't know the result and want him sold.

[HeartAndSoul]

Haha headline on skysports “Liverpool’s new boy suffers shock defeat”

See they’ve already started with their narrative of piling on the pressure on him 

[Too early for flapjacks?]

So is he joining up on 21st? Klopp said all players will get 3 weeks off didn’t he?

Think Klopp said at least 3 weeks. Pre-season will probably start 1st week of July so he could turn up to Kirby on the 21st but probably only be the groundsman there!

[redgriffin73]

Is he likely to be picked for the Olympics?

[classycarra]

Bahahhaha, he's been Cronenberg'd!

[jepovic]

He's just turned 22 mate. I don't expect him to carry anyone at this stage of his career.

I don't know, have you seen those arms?

Jokes aside, he's young and hasn't played much in Bundesliga the last 2 seasons. I don't expect him to come in and dominate immediately like VVD.

[Suareznumber7]

He went to sleep for Kluivert's chance in the first half I thought but made a good saving tackle in the second. He played Kluivert onside for the winner, first standing there with his arm up and then just jogging back.

I hope people aren't expecting him alone to be the magic bullet for our defence. He's got all the tools but he's still raw.

I thought that was more on the right back who didn't step up with the rest of the back line and kept Kluivert onside?

[dutchkop]

We didn't get a replay for the first ball played from the Dutch half but it looked offside to me. I thought Konate stepped up. Maybe he was late?

He had more to do second half and did well. He was clearly bigger and faster than anyone the Dutch had so anything one on one or aerial was a non-contest in his favour. Didn't get to see that much from him with the ball. Didn't mess anything up but didn't really try much ambitious either. Upamecano was the one being more adventurous so possibly just playing within the system, as you can't have both CBs going full Lucio.

Encouraged by his physical traits and effortless defending. Curious to see more of what he does with the ball.

that is a good talented Dutch team - I thought the French were better, created more chances and played good attacking Football. Dutch defended well - interesting there were 3 CB;s we were linked with on the pitch in addition to Konate. Upamecano (Signed for Bayern for 48M) Plusthe 2 Dutch CB;s Botman that plays for Lille that beat PSG for French league Title and Schuurs Ajax...
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK03QVJrQS0 - Hopefully we got the best out of these 4 on display.  I think he has everything we need as CB 4 in our squad at 22 years old. Better prospects, talents and skills than Kabak.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Bahahhaha, he's been Cronenberg'd!

that blue bottle jacket is an abomination

[red1977]

that blue bottle jacket is an abomination

What would you reckon if Norris from Corrie had one on in the Rovers?. 😁

[Kopenhagen]

I don’t mean this as an insult at all, but there’s a touch of the Mamadou Sakho bambi-on-ice-effectiveness in him.

Seen clips with similar vibes but overall seems far more orthodox than Sakho.

[dutchkop]

So is he joining up on 21st? Klopp said all players will get 3 weeks off didn’t he?

Edit: Pre season training not starting until 12 July so he’ll be available for day one!

FA Community SHield 7 Aug Prem league starts 14 Aug - Euros final 14 July.
So I hope none of our players do not make the final 4 of Euros?

Olympics 21 juky to 7 Aug - so Salah will be there and have no preseason or rest.. unless he is resting now for 4-5 weeks - before catching up with Egypt. when do Olympic teams get announced as there are a lot of teams in there?

[Boaty McBoatface]

I thought that was more on the right back who didn't step up with the rest of the back line and kept Kluivert onside?

Both full backs were too deep but Konate (and Upamecano) had no clue where Kluivert was. VAR would have ruled it out (if they had it) but I'm not sure if the lino gave it. Good movement from the striker and a lack of communication between the defenders. But tbf to them, the rb had only just come on because the starting rb was injured earlier on. It was only a slight lapse which can happen against strikers with good movement like Kluivert.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

What would you reckon if Norris from Corrie had one on in the Rovers?. 😁

id tell the missus to get inside with the kids and lock the doors and not come out till I’m back or the police are there  to save them. Bit noncey that Norris mate, you’re pushing 80. You might have got away with it 50 years ago off ya tits on poppers in studio 54 in ya heyday covered in chip fat  in ya speedos but ya 78 now Coley. Think on eh ya plant pot

[red1977]

  fucking hell. I had to go out for some air after getting to the bit about Norris off his tits on poppers.

[Samie]

  Already playing up to us.

https://twitter.com/IbrahimaKonate_/status/1400394186025836549

[Carra-ton]

I just love his raw attributes, his pace, tackling, strength and heading. He also is calm in situations. Those are a number of qualities Van Dijk has and rare in a combination. His passing isn't on the same level as Van Dijk but then you can't expect it all. He will only get better.
Someone compared him to Sakho, his mentality is completely opposite to Sakho.

[Redcap]

Is there any risk he gets called up for the Olympics, if it goes ahead?

[Samie]

safe to say he's not in an around Liverpool just yet. 

[Welshred]

Is there any risk he gets called up for the Olympics, if it goes ahead?

Yeah there probably is. It's an U23s tournament so he qualifies and I don't think we can withdraw him either.

[killer-heels]

Nat Phillips to start the season then.

[Bobinhood]

safe to say he's not in an around Liverpool just yet. 

hehehe

Remembering it took Fabinho about six months of running dem laps to get that one small glass of champagne on the plane with becky ticked off the klopp's to do list rofl.

he'd best have a gym in that hotel 

[Bergersrightwingviews]

Is there any risk he gets called up for the Olympics, if it goes ahead?

Bloody hope not. It’s really important he has a full preseason with us as he may be our senior CB foe the start of the season or at least the fittest senior CB. It’s not fair to expect Virgil, Matip and Gomez to be firing on all cylinders straight away.

From his perspective, it’s a great opportunity to establish himself as one of the first names on the team sheet even when those lads are back.