Topic: The Indomitable Ibou

[Samie]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

He didn't play against us. The dodgy defender is Upermecano. 

[Hazell]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

He was on the bench in both games against us.

[JasonF]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

We've played them twice in our history and he featured in neither game.

[Sangria]

He didn't play against us. The dodgy defender is Upermecano. 

The poster probably confused it with Alonso's legendary performance against Man Utd in that famous 4-1 win.

[RedSince86]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

He never played in the CL games against us.

It was Upamacano and Mukiele.

[Red Being]

His injury history is massively overstated. The 3 muscle fibre injuries were the same one recurring and he hasn't had am issue since surgery nearly a year go now. Then his ankle injury that kept him out for two months this season which I'm assuming is a sprain. People are basing him being 'injury prone' off two injuries only.

Came to the thread hoping for an explanation. Thanks.
Excited now.

[IgorBobbins]

The one thing I took from that highlight video is that he likes to go to ground a lot! 

[macmanamanaman]

I'm confused. You want us to switch which witch doctors?

yes

[macmanamanaman]

The one thing I took from that highlight video is that he likes to go to ground a lot! 

As long as he gets up again and can walk off the field, we'll be ok. Right?

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

He was on the bench in both games against us.

You didn't see the dodgy way he was sitting though!

[Paul_h]

Not going to pretend like I really know anything about this lad. I am suspicious of anyone who says they have enough time to watch all this foreign footy on top of our own.

But if Klopp says he´s good, and the transfer committee say he´s good, then I trust it.

How many flops have we had over the last 5 years? Not many is the answer.

Looking forward to watching him play.

due to play on Monday, vs Netherlands. if picked.

[MBL?]

due to play on Monday, vs Netherlands. if picked.

How many good cb’s do France have? I assume Varane with maybe upamacno is the starters for the seniors but they have loads at this stage?

[Samie]

They have a conveyor belt of really talented young Centre Back's mate, like legit 8 potential world class CB of the future. Upermecano isn't even a starter for them. It will be Varane and Lenglet.  Laporte switched to Spain because he couldn't even get a game.

[Eeyore]

They have a conveyor belt of really talented young Centre Back's mate, like legit 8 potential world class CB of the future. Upermecano isn't even a starter for them. It will be Varane and Lenglet.  Laporte switched to Spain because he couldn't even get a game.

Upamecano hasn't even made the squad for the Euros. Neither did Umtiti.

Their centre backs are Clement Lenglet, Raphael Varane and Jules Kounde.

As you say Samie a ridiculous amount of talent.

[MBL?]

to be honest Upecamano looks like David Luiz mrk 2 to me. Brilliant at times but does some mental stuff when there is no need.

[Schmidt]

So he could feasibly win the league with us and still get every international break off? Sounds ideal.

[MBL?]

So he could feasibly win the league with us and still get every international break off? Sounds ideal.

If that happened he’d be a starter for them straight away I’d guess. Rb haven’t really played him as I assume they knew he was going. There is also the injuries.

[Samie]

 Should've paid closer attention to the French squad. I thought  Upeprmecno was in the squad lol. 

Then you have likes of:

Konate
Lacroix
Saliba
Forfana
Badiashile
Todibo

Few more I'm sure but those are off the top of my head.

[Eeyore]

Should've paid closer attention to the French squad. I thought  Upeprmecno was in the squad lol. 

Then you have likes of:

Konate
Lacroix
Saliba
Forfana
Badiashile
Todibo

Few more I'm sure but those are off the top of my head.

It is crazy isn't it Samie.

It isn't just centre back. France could field a side of players that haven't made their squad who would be third or fourth favourites for the tournament.

[leinad]

Should've paid closer attention to the French squad. I thought  Upeprmecno was in the squad lol. 

Then you have likes of:

Konate
Lacroix
Saliba
Forfana
Badiashile
Todibo

Few more I'm sure but those are off the top of my head.

Think it's Kimpembe and Varane that usually starts for them.

[Schmidt]

If that happened he’d be a starter for them straight away I’d guess. Rb haven’t really played him as I assume they knew he was going. There is also the injuries.

Maybe, but when it comes to central defenders and goalkeepers especially, international managers tend to prefer to stick with settled options instead of rotating every break.

[xbugawugax]

crazy amount of talent in defence

can tell why didier rather plays a conservative style.

think one of the interviews mentioned that he didn't ask for a first team spot and would rather fight for a place. thats a plus point in my book. slowly bed in the squad and hopefully take his chances when given if joe and matip manage to stay fit. he is still young so might have the time to learn epl and klopp methods

[Welshred]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

Hitting the "Twitter-bollocks" bingo there!

[JC the Messiah]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

Didn't think he played against us in the CL?

Edit, I see that's been confirmed by others.

[rob1966]

Worth a punt at £36m. Slight concerns regarding his own injury record and the fact that he had a couple of dodgy moments against us in the CL
Young and with lots of potential though.

You are Garth Crooks and I claim my £5

[CraigDS]

You are Garth Crooks and I claim my £5

Nah, he hasn't blamed Salah for his performances in those games.

[Melbred]

Haven't watched him play too much but I think there's two things we're going to ask him to work on based on highlights.

Not flying into tackles (unless absolutely necessary) and his passing.

Really hoping that the surgery did the job and he can be relied upon. At his age, his potential is through the roof.

[TepidT2O]

Never watched him play.

Will not judge him until xmas

[TAA66]

Another one who I can honestly say I don’t ever remember watching.  I’m sold on the YouTube vids though, think we have signed a monster to play alongside another monster   

[Linudden]

So he could feasibly win the league with us and still get every international break off? Sounds ideal.

Don't tempt fate or Mali will announce him for the 2022 Afcon 

[Jon2lfc]

He looks a bit of a unit.
Doesn't look particularly fast, but must be pretty rapid to catch some of those strikers he caught up with and tackled.
I like his confidence and think he'll be especially good beside Virg.

[jonnypb]

He looks a bit of a unit.
Doesn't look particularly fast, but must be pretty rapid to catch some of those strikers he caught up with and tackled.
I like his confidence and think he'll be especially good beside Virg.

He was the fastest player in RB Leipzig and regarded to be one of the quicker CB's in Europe.

[mattD]

I must admit that I thought we'd be absolutely fine going into the season just gone with our current defenders. Didn't foresee the annihilation of them all though.

He's a top player but can it really be that  the main reason we bought him was because, aside from Van Dijk, everyone else is injury prone? It's just concerning that that would be a main factor in recruitment as it feels like we're just buying players for contingency sake. Surely there's more to it than that and the club recognise a proper world class centre back?

[Jon2lfc]

He was the fastest player in RB Leipzig and regarded to be one of the quicker CB's in Europe.

That's good to know and proves my point.
Doesn't look fast, but is.

[Dim Glas]

He was the fastest player in RB Leipzig and regarded to be one of the quicker CB's in Europe.

he wasn’t.

But he’s no slouch.

He wasn’t clocking numbers as fast this season as he was when he broke through at Leipzig. But he didn’t play an awful lot and didn’t have a long run of games, so maybe it’s something that’ll return.

[Red1976]

His injury history is massively overstated. The 3 muscle fibre injuries were the same one recurring and he hasn't had am issue since surgery nearly a year go now. Then his ankle injury that kept him out for two months this season which I'm assuming is a sprain. People are basing him being 'injury prone' off two injuries only.

 I be a lot more reassured if Ibrahim Konate goes next season with no long-term injury. 

 I disagree with your statement that "His injury history is massively overstated".  The torn muscle fibres in October 2019, May 2020 and July 2020 (36 games) either indicates he may have a congenital weakness; a hip weakness which throws his running; that the injury was not healed properly when he returned; or his running gait needs to be examined and improved. The last 2 are easy fixes, the first 2 are not. Congenital weakness in the muscle is pretty difficult to pick up in an medical exam, as it is can be at a microscopic level.

The ankle injury was more than a "sprain", but I appreciate why you said that for simplicity. It was ligament damage that kept him out for  9 games - it would have been more but for the winter break.  The injury was not "a year ago" it was in December 2020. So 5 months ago.

 I just urge caution as there is no doubt that Ibrahim Konate looks a good player.

[Dim Glas]

The ankle injury was more than a "sprain", but I appreciate why you said that for simplicity. It was ligament damage that kept him out for  9 games - it would have been more but for the winter break.  The injury was not "a year ago" it was in December 2020. So 5 months ago.

 I just urge caution as there is no doubt that Ibrahim Konate looks a good player.

It kept him out for 6 weeks regardless. There was only a short winter break this season in Bundesliga.

At the end of the day, I am reasonably sure that they will have been very aware of the hip flexor issue and subsequent surgery when conducting the medical.

There is always a risk. Said it before - Keita is a prime example, barely missed a run of games in his career before arriving here and now he can’t seem to stay injury free for more than a couple weeks. Never any guarantees.

[jonnypb]

he wasn’t.

But he’s no slouch.

He wasn’t clocking numbers as fast this season as he was when he broke through at Leipzig. But he didn’t play an awful lot and didn’t have a long run of games, so maybe it’s something that’ll return.

Pre injury he was. Having missed so many games in the last 2 seasons due to injuries it’ll be expected that he isn’t as quick just yet.

[Welshred]

I be a lot more reassured if Ibrahim Konate goes next season with no long-term injury. 

 I disagree with your statement that "His injury history is massively overstated".  The torn muscle fibres in October 2019, May 2020 and July 2020 (36 games) either indicates he may have a congenital weakness; a hip weakness which throws his running; that the injury was not healed properly when he returned; or his running gait needs to be examined and improved. The last 2 are easy fixes, the first 2 are not. Congenital weakness in the muscle is pretty difficult to pick up in an medical exam, as it is can be at a microscopic level.

The ankle injury was more than a "sprain", but I appreciate why you said that for simplicity. It was ligament damage that kept him out for  9 games - it would have been more but for the winter break.  The injury was not "a year ago" it was in December 2020. So 5 months ago.

 I just urge caution as there is no doubt that Ibrahim Konate looks a good player.

6 weeks out for ligament damage is a sprain no matter which way you look at it. I also didn't say it was a year ago I clearly said this season. The hip issue was a year ago and you're going into massive conjecture in thinking it's congenital, the fact is that he had the same hip flexor injury 3 times and hasn't had an issue since surgery. Sounds like you want him to be injury prone just to prove your point.

[him_15]

Welcome to the greatest football club Konate! Wish you best luck!