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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2017, 11:48:47 am »
Looking for some advice here, can we comment on this on social media, but not name names, alleged happenings ect - don't want to prejudice anything? I am flabbergasted that only six people have a case to answer

There are further investigations ongoing that may lead to further charges.

I would just steer clear of commenting in anything other than the most superficial terms. You can share newspaper reports of the proceedings quite safely. 

If they are convicted, you can be as rude as you like about them. It is just a little more time to wait.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2017, 11:53:14 am »
I appreciate this may be a very 'how long's a piece of string' question but do we know when the trials may be and how long they might last? Will they take place at the same time or is each individual/offence treated separately?

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2017, 11:53:17 am »
Frustrating not to be able to say what I really feel and think.  I understand why but so frustrating.
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2017, 11:55:01 am »
I think its ok to say ( ?) respect to the investigating officers for their hard work and dilligence to get  to this stage and to those who gave evidence/interviewed by them.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2017, 11:55:01 am »
On the surface it looks like (another) good start towards justice.
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2017, 11:56:20 am »
Frustrating not to be able to say what I really feel and think.  I understand why but so frustrating.

Say it, PM it, just don't post it publicly. You can be as rude as you like about them in your home, just don't post it online. Yet.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2017, 12:00:41 pm »
ok understand, happy for the families at least something positive, I will leave it there :'(
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2017, 12:01:41 pm »
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2017, 12:03:52 pm »
Good news, another step up the hill to justice.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2017, 12:04:42 pm »
My thoughts are with those affected. One step closer to justice and accountability.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2017, 12:05:25 pm »
Anything on those that accused others claiming "The Truth"?
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #91 on: June 28, 2017, 12:05:42 pm »
CPS basically saying that the SY Ambulance Service and Sheffield Wednesday FC would have been charged with health & safety offences but for the fact that the current organisations are legally not successor organisations to those that existed in 1989:

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The CPS has explained that Sheffield Wednesday PLC is the legal entity, existing only on paper, which was Sheffield Wednesday Football Club in 1989.

Ms Hemmings says that Sheffield Wednesday Football Club as it exists today is a “different company” and as it is not a successor organisation, is not criminally liable for any offences that might have been committed.

Ms Hemmings’ statement adds: “Operation Resolve took action to preserve the paper company at the outset of the investigation so that a full investigation could take place.

“There are no longer any directors or other individuals who form the company and therefore no-one who could represent it in the dock, give instructions to answer any criminal charge or enter a plea.

“Even if the company were to be found guilty in those circumstances, there could be no penalty as it does not have any assets with which to pay a fine and no-one else liable to pay it. As a consequence, whilst I have concluded that there is sufficient evidence for a health and safety offence, it is not in the public interest to prosecute now.”
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“We considered the actions of the South Yorkshire Metropolitan Ambulance Service, which has been criticised for its failure to respond adequately to the unfolding disaster.

“It is clear that SYMAS was a service supplied by the Trent Regional Health Authority (TRHA) rather than a legal entity itself. The TRHA ceased to exist when its responsibilities were transferred. However, criminal liability was not transferred to the successor organisations, so there is no body, corporate or incorporate, which can now be prosecuted even if liability could be proven.”
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2017, 12:09:41 pm »
Don't really have anything to say. Justice for the 96.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2017, 12:10:29 pm »
Didn't think this day would come

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #94 on: June 28, 2017, 12:12:43 pm »
Glad to finally see some in court facing charges.

Disappointed to see Sheffield Wednesday, and the Football Association walking away scot free.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #95 on: June 28, 2017, 12:18:23 pm »
Haven't logged in here for years.
Wanted to today to say I hope justice is served however late it may be.
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #96 on: June 28, 2017, 12:20:29 pm »
Good. My thoughts are with of all those affected again today.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #97 on: June 28, 2017, 12:23:50 pm »
Good.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #98 on: June 28, 2017, 12:24:14 pm »
play safe lock this thread now and DONT put anything on any social media.

Have to say this is my view as well that the RAWK mods should play safe.
We don't want any arguments at trial about prejudice to the trials after all we've been through.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #99 on: June 28, 2017, 12:25:57 pm »
I always assumed that some employees from a specific rag had colluded to pervert the course of justice and would face charges? Was I wrong in my assumption and therefore they will not be pursued, or do they face separate investigation and changes as they were not public servants at the time?

EDIT:- Oh and this is fantastic news. Well in. JFT96.
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #100 on: June 28, 2017, 12:29:42 pm »
I always assumed that journalists from a specific rag had colluded to pervert the course of justice and would face charges? Was I wrong in my assumption and therefore they will not be pursued, or do they face separate investigation and changes as they were not public servants at the time?

EDIT:- Oh and this is fantastic news. Well in. JFT96.

Probably not as they could argue that they were relying on information received. But best not to go into detail.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #101 on: June 28, 2017, 12:35:04 pm »
Glad to finally see some in court facing charges.

Disappointed to see Sheffield Wednesday, and the Football Association walking away scot free.
sorry couldn't help myself, Totally agree, while it might not exist "on paper" anymore I am sure the people involved or at least some of them do, and what about Tony Bland's family, not happy
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #102 on: June 28, 2017, 12:41:10 pm »
I always assumed that some employees from a specific rag had colluded to pervert the course of justice and would face charges? Was I wrong in my assumption and therefore they will not be pursued, or do they face separate investigation and changes as they were not public servants at the time?

EDIT:- Oh and this is fantastic news. Well in. JFT96.

There's further investigations ongoing, so more charges might follow.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #103 on: June 28, 2017, 12:43:42 pm »
Great news.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #105 on: June 28, 2017, 12:48:43 pm »
There's further investigations ongoing, so more charges might follow.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #106 on: June 28, 2017, 12:51:41 pm »
Chuffing brilliant news, unfortunately it's not more though.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #107 on: June 28, 2017, 12:55:22 pm »
Brilliant news this. I hope they get what they deserve!

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #108 on: June 28, 2017, 01:00:25 pm »
sorry couldn't help myself, Totally agree, while it might not exist "on paper" anymore I am sure the people involved or at least some of them do, and what about Tony Bland's family, not happy

The full CPS release details the reasons why action wasn't or in Tony Bland's case, couldn't, be taken.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #109 on: June 28, 2017, 01:01:07 pm »
Disappointed to see Sheffield Wednesday, and the Football Association walking away scot free.

The FA in particular!

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #110 on: June 28, 2017, 01:04:16 pm »
Further progress on the long road to justice. I'll say more when this is finally all over (if it ever truly is all over).
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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #111 on: June 28, 2017, 01:06:39 pm »
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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #112 on: June 28, 2017, 01:09:33 pm »
A large sense of relief and justification right now, but lets temper that with a bit of caution.

Charged, does  not necessarily mean convicted.


There's a fair way to go yet.


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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #113 on: June 28, 2017, 01:14:10 pm »
The full CPS release details the reasons why action wasn't or in Tony Bland's case, couldn't, be taken.
I know, 1 year ect, that law needs to be looked at, i.e. did anything else other than his being at Hillsborough cause this?
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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #114 on: June 28, 2017, 01:19:58 pm »
Finally

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #115 on: June 28, 2017, 01:21:01 pm »
Great day for Liverpool. Wish my old man could've seen this day.

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Re: CPS To Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions Next Week
« Reply #116 on: June 28, 2017, 01:24:07 pm »
I know, 1 year ect, that law needs to be looked at, i.e. did anything else other than his being at Hillsborough cause this?

The rule was abolished in 1996 by the Law Reform (Year and a day rule) Act 1996.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #117 on: June 28, 2017, 01:25:09 pm »
The start of a new chapter. Here's hoping there's an ending the families and survivor's will be satisfied with.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #118 on: June 28, 2017, 01:31:36 pm »
I appreciate this may be a very 'how long's a piece of string' question but do we know when the trials may be and how long they might last? Will they take place at the same time or is each individual/offence treated separately?

All but Duckinfield will appear at Warrington Magistrates Court on 9th August according to the report on the BBC - no mention on when Duckinfield is due to appear in court. We should get a better understanding then of how it will proceed.

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Re: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions
« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2017, 01:31:59 pm »
Believe it when they are behind bars, watch all the lies come out again. Also how many will suddenly become "Ill health" due to age?  place your bets.