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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #600 on: January 18, 2022, 05:43:44 pm »

Just what personally worked for me:

Alan Carr's book (it may seem a bit woo-woo as it's endorsed by some Hollywood types but it's just kind of practical mind-hacking and is legit)
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-easy-way-to-stop-smoking-by-allen-carr/249415/item/2781507/?gclid=CjwKCAiA55mPBhBOEiwANmzoQr6gp0yfiGVb0DmAQcKbYo4cXTPMdRFdA6DSvijBp4_pUpTh2KtPVxoCiCIQAvD_BwE#idiq=2781507&edition=4246972


I started reading that long ago and it did change my mindset at the time. Gave up but only for about a week and by that time I'd already given it to someone else.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #601 on: February 9, 2022, 12:35:56 pm »
For those that have been successful in switching to an e-cig, did you just cut the tobacco/cigarettes out altogether, or gradually cut them down first?

Failed at having a crack this morning, although didn't have a smoke until half 11. Normally I'd have my first around 9 with a tea while I log in to work.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #602 on: February 9, 2022, 12:43:53 pm »
For those that have been successful in switching to an e-cig, did you just cut the tobacco/cigarettes out altogether, or gradually cut them down first?

Failed at having a crack this morning, although didn't have a smoke until half 11. Normally I'd have my first around 9 with a tea while I log in to work.

I quit smoking using an e-cig. I used my vape when I needed a cigarette during the day and would only smoke when I went out for a pint with my mates (once a week, something like that). The association then became that I would smoke when I drank and then in the end I just couldn't be arsed with the vape and all cleaning, liquids etc so I ditched that. I actually stopped the smoking when drinking during lockdown because we obviously couldn't go the pub and then when everything opened again I never re-started the habit.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #603 on: February 9, 2022, 01:36:05 pm »
For those that have been successful in switching to an e-cig, did you just cut the tobacco/cigarettes out altogether, or gradually cut them down first?

Failed at having a crack this morning, although didn't have a smoke until half 11. Normally I'd have my first around 9 with a tea while I log in to work.

My hubby quit by going to ecigs but it took him a while to get the right vaper and levels of nicotine in his juice before he was comfortable quilting ciggys altogether.

He's not had tobacco now for years but is still vaping but he makes his own juices now.

I went cold turkey giving up, I couldn't be arsed with all the messing around with vaping as when I really need a quick hit from a ciggy and didn't get it I'd be going nuts, which wasn't great at work 😁

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #604 on: February 9, 2022, 02:43:03 pm »
I briefly tried an e-cig vape thing, I was too much of a faff for me and didn't provide any satisfaction, plus I found I was sitting at home smoking it when I wouldn't normally have a fag. The one I had burnt out so after that I just went cold turkey, but it's like you said Damo, originally I just cut down to 'when I'm at the pub' and then started to associate the taste of beer with needing a fag, so jacked that in too.

I haven't smoked for a few years now but do nick the odd one if away on holiday with friends (which is getting less and less as we move into our late 20s). One thing I will say - some who try a cigarette after being off them for a while then find them abhorrent and disgusting. I don't unfortunately. Even if I've not had one for a year, I can have one and massively enjoy it. Luckily I'm able to say enough is enough and not have any more.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #605 on: August 16, 2022, 03:30:59 pm »
Attempt number 476

Had my last smoke at 11am yesterday to finish off my last of the tobacco in the pouch. Was on an e-cig yesterday, but haven't used that today.
Would absolutely love a smoke right now, but resisting the urge currently to go to the shop. Just 1 will lead into 'fuck it, may as well finish the packet.'

A lot of the previous efforts have been half arsed, and I'd been building up to them in advance whereas yesterday it was more the realisation that I'd no tobacco left and an e-cig with oil in the drawer so just do it.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #606 on: August 18, 2022, 12:48:41 pm »
3 days in. Working in the office today and normally I'd have had at least 3 smoke breaks by now. The thought of having a smoke hasn't really left my mind since I arrived at 8.30 this morning. This would be a lot easier if I could stop thinking about it.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #607 on: August 18, 2022, 02:21:28 pm »
Keep going Barney such a tough thing to do
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #608 on: August 18, 2022, 04:34:17 pm »
Keep going Barney such a tough thing to do

Thanks mate. I think the key is just don't buy any tobacco and I'll be grand  :D

I'm just trying to go day by day at this stage, not trying to look at it as that is me permanently off smoking. 11am tomorrow will be 4 days so that's my only target now.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #609 on: August 18, 2022, 05:46:27 pm »
Can be done mate (easier said than done) been 4 years for me without a ciggie.

Best thing you will ever do.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #610 on: August 19, 2022, 07:25:32 pm »
6 weeks for me now (and no booze).  Using a vape at the moment on 20mg.  Another couple of weeks then onto 10mg. 

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #611 on: August 20, 2022, 12:18:06 pm »
5 days in. Had a few pints yesterday at lunch, 2 after work, then a couple of bottles at home later on. The temptation was certainly there but not as strong as I expected it to be.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #612 on: October 3, 2022, 03:24:25 pm »
7 weeks in.

I've broken once a few weeks back when I came across a box with 2 cigarettes in it that I'd forgotten about. Other than that, I have an e-cig that I would keep handy when I'm drinking but I don't even really use it.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #613 on: October 3, 2022, 04:20:36 pm »
Vaping for me. No interest in tobacco at all. After switching I was vaping max nicotine + salts to come close to the hit from tobacco. Now I barely out any nicotine at all, 3mg or under. Not that vaping is harmless, but it sure as hell beats tobacco.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #614 on: October 7, 2022, 08:51:46 pm »
I started reading that long ago and it did change my mindset at the time. Gave up but only for about a week and by that time I'd already given it to someone else.


I’ve smoked for about 20+ years since my late youth. I’ve previously tried to quit using gums and patches, even Zoloft. No dice. Remember the doctor telling me the Zoloft had a couple of side effects. They gave me the worst nightmares I’ve ever had.

Then my father, back in 2005, had Stage 4 lung cancer. Asked me to quit smoking for my own good, so I promised him. The first was the CL final, when I said to him I will quit if Liverpool win. Halftime Milan up 3-0, felt very depressed, and turned it off. Heard the neighbours yelling and screaming, it was quite late here, so I thought oh great Milan probably bagged a couple more. Turned on the TV to watch Dudek make the double save, and the rest is history. I took the box of Marlboros I was smoking, emptied the contents, wrote the date on the box, and quit then cold turkey.

My father was happy, whenever I visited he would say how proud he was of me. Then he was gone, passed away on July.

In the aftermath I ended up picking back up the habit. I felt so low. Felt like I cheated on my father’s promise. The spiral I fell into was quite an emotional drain, so I promised I would try again.

2011, before I took a trip with my wife to Switzerland, a colleague had passed this book to me called the Easyway to Stop Smoking. In the interim, I tried more patches (useless), acupuncture (not really feeling it) and herbal cigarettes (tasted like shit). I looked at this book, and though instinctively, what is it going to tell me that I don’t know. My colleague had told me I had to be absolutely sure I wanted to quit before I start reading, so I waited.

When I started feeling that mild case of hypoxia, I was doing that short hike to Monjoschutte from Jungfrau. Felt severe shortness of breath, weakness, a little wheezy. Said to my wife, I don’t think this is normal. Descended off the mountain, feeling a little freaked out, and decided I really need to do so,etching about this.

In the end it took me 3 weeks to read his book coming back from trip to Switzerland. Waited a week to read the last chapter, smoked my last cigarette. And that was it.

The third day after, I was walking through the city streets in Paris, smoker a plenty on every corner and under every alcove, inviting me to the promised land. Stuck it out through that, by the end of the week,I was fine.

Less than a month after, cig’s now snell like burnt paper to me, very unpleasant. Didn’t get any urges to smoke, and best of all, could stand by my friends while they are smoking without any issues.

11 years on now, I have not smoked 1 single cigarette. Not one. It’s like a part of my life that was deleted.

Highly recommend the book.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #615 on: October 10, 2022, 03:27:33 pm »
Well, I quit smoking many years ago and still don't want to start.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #616 on: February 1, 2024, 04:10:07 pm »
Okay here goes

attempt number 10000 (well that's what it feels like)

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #617 on: February 1, 2024, 04:14:58 pm »
7 weeks in.

I've broken once a few weeks back when I came across a box with 2 cigarettes in it that I'd forgotten about. Other than that, I have an e-cig that I would keep handy when I'm drinking but I don't even really use it.

I got to around February last year with this effort. No idea what kicked it off again but been smoking since  :butt
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #618 on: February 1, 2024, 04:17:44 pm »
I got to around February last year with this effort. No idea what kicked it off again but been smoking since  :butt

I once lasted a year, thought I cracked it.

I once knew someone who started again after a 7 year break.

It's a hard addiction to break.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #619 on: February 1, 2024, 05:42:25 pm »
6 and a half years without the expensive, smelly poisonous twats.
 

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #620 on: February 1, 2024, 08:10:02 pm »
6 and a half years without the expensive, smelly poisonous twats.

It's about the same for me too 👍

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #621 on: February 1, 2024, 08:10:56 pm »
Okay here goes

attempt number 10000 (well that's what it feels like)

How are you trying to give up mate?

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #622 on: February 1, 2024, 09:12:48 pm »
How are you trying to give up mate?

Currently using a vape when the craving really hits.

When I managed a year I just went for it, but there were no vapes around in them days.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #623 on: February 1, 2024, 09:39:20 pm »
Currently using a vape when the craving really hits.

When I managed a year I just went for it, but there were no vapes around in them days.

I couldn't get on with vapes but Paul uses them all the time now rather than smoke. 

I used the lozenges/mint things as I didn't smoke enough to use patches and wasn't allowed gum in work but I found they gave me that hit of nicotine  whenever I craved.  It took probably 6-9mths but eventually I just didn't need them anymore.

I'd smoked for over 40yrs apart from 2 pregnancys and apart from the weight I've gained and old age creeping up on me I've never felt better.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #624 on: February 12, 2024, 09:05:11 am »
day 1 of no vapes.

Trying the patches to hopefully curb the urge to want to kill people.

Says on the pack you're supposed to use the step 1 type for 6 weeks, is that like a standard thing? I was hoping it'd be much quicker than that.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #625 on: February 12, 2024, 09:23:27 am »
day 1 of no vapes.

Trying the patches to hopefully curb the urge to want to kill people.

Says on the pack you're supposed to use the step 1 type for 6 weeks, is that like a standard thing? I was hoping it'd be much quicker than that.

29 years since I went on the patches. Back then it was 4 weeks of each level. 21mg, 14mg, 7mg.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #626 on: February 12, 2024, 09:40:31 am »
it says 6 weeks 21, 2 weeks 14, 2 weeks 7. I don't dream (or don't remember them) so we'll see what happens with that! I remember my dad using them like 20 years ago and he said he had weird dreams.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #627 on: February 12, 2024, 09:41:08 am »
day 1 of no vapes.

Trying the patches to hopefully curb the urge to want to kill people.

Says on the pack you're supposed to use the step 1 type for 6 weeks, is that like a standard thing? I was hoping it'd be much quicker than that.

The person selling you the nicotine patches will always tell you to buy more nicotine patches, right?  The pharma lads are peddlers too. They want you cured but not before they get paid.  In reality it'll depend on how much of a drop it is in nicotine for you, and how it feels. If you adjust to them quickly I'd move through the stages a quicker. No point in hanging around, it's just pushing out the day you are free. The patches can become a habit in themselves.

I didn't have a great time with patches. In the end I went with a walk around the block, deep breathing and chewing the gum as a replacement.  Got me over the hump after about a month. And I'm pretty much smoke free 7 years now. Gotten very into running too which helped I think. Still a struggle to even sit downwind of a pint though, I just associate the 2 things with each other - so I do have the occasional lapse if I can pinch a smoke. But day to day I'm all good now - and hopefully stay that way.

Best of luck to all. 

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #628 on: February 12, 2024, 09:56:23 am »
It feels weird as fuck in all honesty. I feel a bit floaty.

I'll give it a week to get over the habit of actually using the vape and then see how I am.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #629 on: February 12, 2024, 10:01:37 am »
It feels weird as fuck in all honesty. I feel a bit floaty.

I'll give it a week to get over the habit of actually using the vape and then see how I am.

That's why I could use patches Claire.  I didn't smoke enough so I was putting more nicotine in my system than I was used to making me nauseous and light headed.

The lozenges worked for me as I could use them whilst at work where gum was banned.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #630 on: February 12, 2024, 02:56:38 pm »
Day 12

Still on the vape, but less and less
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #631 on: February 12, 2024, 03:22:44 pm »
almost through an entire work day and dog walk without telling anyone to get to fuck.

progress.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #632 on: February 13, 2024, 07:33:15 am »
Didn’t have weird dreams but I woke up at 4 and absolutely couldn’t get back to sleep.

Haven’t cracked yet 🥳

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #633 on: February 13, 2024, 01:11:05 pm »
That's why I could use patches Claire.  I didn't smoke enough so I was putting more nicotine in my system than I was used to making me nauseous and light headed.

The lozenges worked for me as I could use them whilst at work where gum was banned.

Yeah, I've been using the lozenges. I'm getting ready to come off them too. I'll probably get some normal mints/lozenges to replace that habit.  :D

It's the habit of going for a coffee and a rolly that I've been trying to get over really. I can muster the "willpower" to get over the physical cravings - I've been through worse. But I still can't go into town for long as I associate it with sitting outside a cafe/coffee shop with a smoke. I'll come off the lozenges then go out for a coffee with a book to retrain my brain a new habit to replace the rolly. (As a consequence, I've only had about 3 coffees this year so far, so I've kicked a caffeine addiction too.)

Our habits become an ingrained part of us that make it harder to quit smoking etc. I've smoked sporadically over the years and when I quit while working at a previous company, I still went out for fag breaks with fellow smokers just to chat as that was part of my routine.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #634 on: February 13, 2024, 01:17:37 pm »
the retraining my brain is what I'm doing now, getting used to not having the vape and when I'm doing (what the nerds call) 'deep work' I used to use it a lot and now I'm trying to break that. Earlier on I was working on something and instinctively reached for it and had to remind myself I'm not doing that any more. So far, I'm replacing the action of picking it up with a water bottle, so yay for hydration!

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #635 on: February 13, 2024, 01:26:37 pm »
Loads of associations to break

The biggest issue for me at the moment is that I can't have a break from any form of work, paid or converting my van (for example), as having a break comes with a cigarette for the last 40 odd years.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #636 on: February 13, 2024, 01:32:12 pm »
Loads of associations to break

The biggest issue for me at the moment is that I can't have a break from any form of work, paid or converting my van (for example), as having a break comes with a cigarette for the last 40 odd years.

Yeah, that'll make it harder. I've always quit after a few months, though last year was longer, so it's going to be easier in comparison. Try doing something similar to Claire and replace the cigarette with something else.

When I come off other substances, the social networks were the hardest to break. Basically had to drop everyone and move to another city.
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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #637 on: February 13, 2024, 01:37:40 pm »
I gave up smoking over a decade ago, to stop, I simply went cold turkey. I was a miserable git and put on a lot of weight, but after a while, I stopped missing cigarettes.

Reading about Anthony Keidis’s struggle with addiction in Scar Tissue made me see the similarity among addictions. Knowing that thereis a history of addiction in my family made me swear off cigarettes for good, moderate when I drink alcohol and stay well away from things such as gambling.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #638 on: February 21, 2024, 04:03:46 am »
Stopping smoking is a piece of piss...I've done it hundreds of times.

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Re: Stopping Smoking
« Reply #639 on: February 21, 2024, 07:47:09 am »
still off them ;D