Author Topic: Football Manager Series (Read 47429 times)

CornerFlag · « **Reply #400 on:** February 16, 2022, 11:47:45 pm »

Anyone downloaded the Level 10 database? Got Cammell Laird up a division before being offered the Gosport Borough job, got them promoted and now waiting to see what happens next. Got them to just outside the play-offs in the VNS.

Oh, also trapped Greenwood in some North Korean team and changed his nationality so he's a bit more... Pyongyangean...

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #401 on:** February 17, 2022, 07:50:14 am »

Quote from: CornerFlag on February 16, 2022, 11:47:45 pm

Anyone downloaded the Level 10 database? Got Cammell Laird up a division before being offered the Gosport Borough job, got them promoted and now waiting to see what happens next. Got them to just outside the play-offs in the VNS.

Oh, also trapped Greenwood in some North Korean team and changed his nationality so he's a bit more... Pyongyangean...

Should just do a Prison FC team. Not to play as of course, just to move all the scum into.

CornerFlag · « **Reply #402 on:** February 17, 2022, 09:56:42 am »

Quote from: naYoRHa2b on February 17, 2022, 07:50:14 am

Should just do a Prison FC team. Not to play as of course, just to move all the scum into.

Reminds me, certain Icelandic midfielders and Scottish Raith Rovers players should probably be heading to the Korean Peninsula soon too (if they haven't retired).

I've never had the FMRTE before so having a little fun with it, I've stuck a billion into the accounts of Chemie Leipzig and Red Star FC because a) I like their politics, and b) I'm never really going to play in the German/French leagues.

stoa · « **Reply #403 on:** February 17, 2022, 10:28:46 am »

In Germany there's Eintracht Fuhlsbüttel who are playing somewhere in the local Hamburg league and they play all their games at home. Why? They're a team of prison inmates. Sadly, you probably can't play them in FM unless there's some database that includes the low low German leagues...

ToneLa · « **Reply #404 on:** February 20, 2022, 02:23:17 pm »

Quote from: CornerFlag on February 16, 2022, 11:47:45 pm

Anyone downloaded the Level 10 database? Got Cammell Laird up a division before being offered the Gosport Borough job, got them promoted and now waiting to see what happens next. Got them to just outside the play-offs in the VNS.

Oh, also trapped Greenwood in some North Korean team and changed his nationality so he's a bit more... Pyongyangean...

Twice a season after the transfer window shuts I used the editor to move Man United's players to the outer reaches of the world, and edit their bank balance to - 150000000. Greenwood in my game plays for Venezuela's Asociación Civil LALA Fútbol Club

I have edited Ole and Neville to be as poor a manager as I imagine them to be and keep putting one of them in charge and when he gets sacked I put the other one in charge yet again. You can edit their formations as well so they're playing weird formations or in Neville's case stick doggedly to 4-4-2 only I removed any players who can actually play as wide midfielders

They're currently in the Championship. They seem to keep getting money and players, but I'm not going to stop til they are out of the game. I'm running down to League 2, though I should have loaded as far down the leagues as possible

Old Cistern's average attendance is dropping!

ToneLa · « **Reply #405 on:** February 21, 2022, 08:16:01 pm »

Quote from: Jake on February 20, 2022, 06:22:50 pm

I also wonder if something is built into the game to recognise that Wakefield isn't a footballing city, which is keeping the crowds so poor.

Hey ho, its fun.

Your club will have a numerical reputation and the way the locations work is they have a value that raises when the club does better (this also plays into youth intake)

At that level you're still probably not getting great boosts but it will improve. Basically... Glory brings supporters

Attendances will rise. Also interesting is name players can lead to increased sponsorship and attendance

In a nutshell it's a gradual and longterm process. There's nothing stopping your club being big except how you do on the pitch. But the big boosts to rep don't come until you're fairly longterm, established, and you're ideally winning silverware

If you get money in the kitty and the board like you, try asking to upgrade facilities. I basically hammer the infrastructure the first few seasons.

Oh and upgrade your staff regularly...

Elf MoFo · « **Reply #406 on:** February 21, 2022, 08:28:15 pm »

Quote from: ToneLa on February 21, 2022, 08:16:01 pm

Your club will have a numerical reputation and the way the locations work is they have a value that raises when the club does better (this also plays into youth intake)

At that level you're still probably not getting great boosts but it will improve. Basically... Glory brings supporters

Attendances will rise. Also interesting is name players can lead to increased sponsorship and attendance

In a nutshell it's a gradual and longterm process. There's nothing stopping your club being big except how you do on the pitch. But the big boosts to rep don't come until you're fairly longterm, established, and you're ideally winning silverware

If you get money in the kitty and the board like you, try asking to upgrade facilities. I basically hammer the infrastructure the first few seasons.

Oh and upgrade your staff regularly...

I'm 15 seasons in with Cove Rangers and won the SPL 3 out of last 4 years.

Issue is they built a new stadium in 2018 so it is only 3 years old at the start of the game. I have tried every year to request a new stadium but apparently it is near impossible to get the board to build one until the existing stadium is 25 years old so I am stuck in a 5000 seaters capacity (they did expand it to max early on from 2000) and having to play CL games at Pittodrie (Aberdeen's stadium).

To your point though, even after 15 seasons, winning the SPL and playing in the CL, season ticket sales still only grow by about 100-200 a season. Up to 3000 season tickets sales now.

andytaylor47 · « **Reply #407 on:** March 8, 2022, 08:46:53 am »

I've finished a couple of seasons now after noticing it was on Game Pass. I've loved this series over the years, going back to Championship Manager 3.

Playing as Liverpool, Man Utd were my main title rivals (wtf?), with City and Chelsea struggling all season. Everton are unusually strong, but from what I remember on all of the older games, that was common as the creators were Everton fans!

I only signed Gnabry in my first go, as a backup attacker, as the squad was pretty strong.

I won the league, with Salah scoring millions of goals. Utd finished 2nd, and then lo and behold, I won the Champions League, beating Utd in the final.

I used a 4-3-3 Gengenpress which knackers a lot of players in training, unfortunately, but the board and fans love the entertaining football, with a lot of dominant victories. I used the Positive instruction for the majority unless it was a top 6 side, or a tough European match, or a tough away fixture, where it was Balanced. I only used Attacking for bottom clubs when I was at home.

In my second season, I signed Damion Rice for the aging midfield, Charlie Cresswell for defense, and Karim Adeyemi for Attack. The last two were supposed to be future prospects, but Adeyemi was that good, he pushed Firminho out of my starting 11.

However, two lengthy injuries to my goal machine Salah meant that we only finished 2nd in the league, 6 points behind City. However, Klopp had taken over them after giving Pep the elbow, so it was funny losing to them. Made it to the Champions League final again, losing to City this time.

I also made it to the FA Cup final this time, only to lose to Arsenal. They're like my bogy side, I can't seem to beat them?

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #408 on:** March 8, 2022, 10:27:15 am »

Quote from: andytaylor47 on March 8, 2022, 08:46:53 am

Playing as Liverpool, Man Utd were my main title rivals (wtf?), with City and Chelsea struggling all season. Everton are unusually strong, but from what I remember on all of the older games, that was common as the creators were Everton fans!

I also made it to the FA Cup final this time, only to lose to Arsenal. They're like my bogy side, I can't seem to beat them?

Some tactics and styles are a little broken in the game. Ole plays Vertical Tika-Taka and Arteta is a regular Tika-Taka, but their style trumps their actual ability. Both overachieve massively, I had a long 9 year save as Liverpool and Arsenal were always up there against me with world class players.

You then great get managers known for being good defensively who struggle lots in the AI world.

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #409 on:** March 8, 2022, 04:17:37 pm »

Quote from: Jake on March 8, 2022, 09:31:28 am

To sing soft melodic songs to them while they trained?

Wullie160975 · « **Reply #410 on:** March 22, 2022, 01:29:52 pm »

I agree with the United bias - His performance stats for the season are OK, but look at the suggested price on Dalot after the first season for a bang average player with bang average stats. At least double my most expensive player (Salah: £130m - £142M)

ToneLa · « **Reply #411 on:** April 8, 2022, 09:10:17 am »

Footie Manager 22 is free on Epic

FiSh77 · « **Reply #412 on:** April 8, 2022, 04:04:42 pm »

Quote from: ToneLa on April 8, 2022, 09:10:17 am

Footie Manager 22 is free on Epic

It's just a free weekend

I saw it pop up on my desktop last night and clicked it thinking it was free but was on sale at £26-ish, just checked now and it says free to play until the 11th and on sale until the 12th

ToneLa · « **Reply #413 on:** April 9, 2022, 04:44:47 am »

Epic could fuck up a cup of coffee

ToneLa · « **Reply #414 on:** May 21, 2022, 12:00:16 pm »

https://www.pcgamer.com/why-i-love-the-surprisingly-tactical-thrill-of-cheating-in-football-manager/

Made me laugh cause I took away City's sugar daddy status, Chelsea's, and did so much to United they're in League One

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #415 on:** May 21, 2022, 01:07:46 pm »

I've been doing a really fun game this year, taking me forever like. I started it just before the Jan transfer window patch.

I started up as Monaco to try and break the PSG monopoly on French football. It has worked out for me trophy wise but PSG still sign Haaland, Greenwood, Pedri etc for hundreds of millions. Haaland will score 70 goals a season for PSG in all competitions but they'll somehow drop lots of silly points each year and I'll win Ligue 1 by 7-10 points. They even nabbed Ben-Yedder from me on a free but I have a pretty excellent squad. Satriano from Inter being the crown jewel, cost me £11m and now has an in-game worth of £100m two seasons on. Touchameni as a Mezz with my best player, a Colombian regen CM called John Garcia dominate the midfield and the all-french CB pairing of Badiashile and Omar Solet is the Ligue 1 version of Virgil and Matip. I'm in summer 2026, we've since got a new stadium being built, 36k (where did they find the room in Monaco though?) so that's nice. The new stadium is named after Jean-Luc Ettori, who I hadn't heard of before but with 755 appearances for Monaco you can't go wrong there. I had a game on FM21 where I decided to build Wolfsburg up, and they built "The Edin Dzeko Arena" which was cringe as he was still playing and my squad had won more for the club than he had!

Since the success started rolling in, I decided to take up some "nation building" projects around the top leagues in Europe. I've been controlling a manager at Malaga, Viktoria Koln, Cambridge Utd, Beira-Mar and Pisa who are now all into the top divisions after a few seasons of trying. The plan was that seeing as there's no money in the Portugese league to have Beira-Mar be the new supplier of South American wonderkids to the rest of Europe. I started up at B-M in the 4th division, somehow getting Diogo Nascimento on a free who is now the club captain and has charged them up into the big time in Portugal.

I lost the Championship playoff final as Cambridge to Swansea I think but then absolutely destroyed the Championship in the next season to finish 1st with 100+ points. Suddenly you then have to discard the group of overachievers that got you there because the game's AI doesn't favour your underdogs. That's always a bit sad. I got a £25m budget as Cambridge entering the Premier League for the first time but Pisa were given fuck all for getting into Serie A, and my top striker retired (Iemello I think his name is) meaning I then had to sell a few other of their best players to raise some funds elsewhere.

I've found on FM that you can coast through the lower leagues with the same squad playing aggressive attacking football but the big time hurts. I finished top half as Viktoria Koln in the first season up in the Bundesliga but we had easily the worst goal difference in the whole division after getting smacked for 6-7 each game against Bayern, Dortmund, and Leverkusen. It was the dodgy 2-1s at home and 3-3s away here and there that kept them safe. We also have a tiny new stadium (Viktoria K start off with a 10k ground and the Bundesliga minimum size is 15k). The new one is actually being expanded to 23k which is amazing for where we started, however each time work is done the club rent out the 30k BayArena so we make more money being there anyway

Finally, Malaga, who are absolutely brilliant. I made a Congolese manager called Yorick N'Zinga, and come top 4 with them a lot now even though the squad is a bit low on quality (Atletico suck and I can't compete with Barca/Real), but I have the B and U19 team full of high potential Spanish and African kids and I think by the time we hit 2030 in the game they'll be the best team in Spain. Really can't wait to show off that.

Somehow I manage to do this, put 170 hours into Elden Ring and work the full-time job IRL too. Maybe I should buy my partner some flowers soon...

klopptopia · « **Reply #416 on:** May 25, 2022, 11:32:23 am »

bought the mobile version as i have a few flights upcoming to pass time.
Won the league cup but messed up the CL group and fell out of the EL to napoli after winning the first leg 3-0. Lost the FA cup semi final to Arsenal as well. However my crowning glory was being unbeaten in the league after 33 games with an 11 point lead on Chelsea. Lost game 34 again to Arsenal and went on holiday in disgust forgetting i hadnt actually won the league. Whilst on holiday we took 1 point from the final 4 games and lost the league on goal difference.

whacked £170 on Haaland to soften the blow.

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #417 on:** May 25, 2022, 03:27:05 pm »

Quote from: klopptopia on May 25, 2022, 11:32:23 am

bought the mobile version as i have a few flights upcoming to pass time.
Won the league cup but messed up the CL group and fell out of the EL to napoli after winning the first leg 3-0. Lost the FA cup semi final to Arsenal as well. However my crowning glory was being unbeaten in the league after 33 games with an 11 point lead on Chelsea. Lost game 34 again to Arsenal and went on holiday in disgust forgetting i hadnt actually won the league. Whilst on holiday we took 1 point from the final 4 games and lost the league on goal difference.

whacked £170 on Haaland to soften the blow.

That hurts.

67CherryRed · « **Reply #418 on:** June 5, 2022, 08:49:00 pm »

Finally started playing FM21 this weekend, I bought it in the early May bank holiday in 2021 but never got round to starting a game. Deleted all of the official kits and faces and i'm good to go, York have been selected and I plan on taking them to the Champions League within 10 years.

proudred · « **Reply #419 on:** July 28, 2022, 02:44:06 pm »

Difference between Fm21 & Fm22.

Garrus · « **Reply #420 on:** July 28, 2022, 03:52:57 pm »

Match engine is better in 22 for me but if you have 21 it's not all that big an upgrade. If you're still playing an older version, you should go for it.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #421 on:** September 3, 2022, 10:30:04 am »

I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

Flaccido Dongingo · « **Reply #422 on:** September 3, 2022, 05:31:23 pm »

I just play the Mobile version on my phone now, stripped back without all of the unnecessary guff on the PC version nowadays.

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #423 on:** September 4, 2022, 10:11:58 pm »

Quote from: Solomon Grundy on September 3, 2022, 10:30:04 am

I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

There was a more basic version (Football Manager Touch) but they binned it off for some reason.

The XBOX edition, which you can play on PC, is less involved. I really enjoyed it when I had a brief free trial of gamepass.

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #424 on:** September 8, 2022, 08:46:42 am »

Quote from: Flaccido Dongingo on September 3, 2022, 05:31:23 pm

I just play the Mobile version on my phone now, stripped back without all of the unnecessary guff on the PC version nowadays.

Really weird how the "desktop" version doesn't have a million options for removing stuff from the game, I'm totally fed up of press conferences and there should be an option to just remove them completely! Sending assistant is fine but it still hurts your rep! just let me turn them off

stoa · « **Reply #425 on:** September 8, 2022, 10:04:52 am »

If anyone has Amazon Prime, they're giving away FM22 on Amazon Prime Gaming among other titles. You get a download key for the Epic Store.

Garrus · « **Reply #426 on:** September 9, 2022, 06:04:22 am »

Quote from: Solomon Grundy on September 3, 2022, 10:30:04 am

I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

I agree. The Touch version on PC should have been a solution to this but they binned it off pretty much. I don't think I've completed a whole season in this year's game. I'm halfway through a season I started nearly a month ago. Just too much time even if you delegate stuff.

Release announcement for FM 23 dropped. No news on features yet but they're bringing the console version to PS5. Plus they managed to secure licencing for UEFA competitions. Good news for those who don't play on PC or who don't use licence fixes.

stoa · « **Reply #427 on:** September 9, 2022, 09:49:31 am »

Quote from: Garrus on September 9, 2022, 06:04:22 am

I agree. The Touch version on PC should have been a solution to this but they binned it off pretty much. I don't think I've completed a whole season in this year's game. I'm halfway through a season I started nearly a month ago. Just too much time even if you delegate stuff.

Release announcement for FM 23 dropped. No news on features yet but they're bringing the console version to PS5. Plus they managed to secure licencing for UEFA competitions. Good news for those who don't play on PC or who don't use licence fixes.

I played one of those versions (either Touch or Mobile) some years ago and it was perfect to get through a whole season per day. If that's what you want, it was the perfect game. It also felt very much like the early FM or even the CM games.

Having said that, I think they've gone in a better direction recently with the FM series. I've been very critical in the past of how in depth, but also how broken the whole game was in some areas. Like you had to basically do real scouting and adjust your tactics for every single match. I absolutely hated that. There were also serious issues in my view with player morale and having to interact with them on a regular basis. If you couldn't be arsed with that, sooner or later things would go tits up. Both those things have gotten better in recent versions. It's possible to create a tactic that works most of the team with limited tweaking (which you can take advice for from your assistant or some other coach). It's also much easier to deal with players even when they're unhappy about something. The game is still very much in-depth and it takes quite a long time to complete a season, but I think compared to some older versions from five years or so ago it's much more fun to play at the moment. Having said that, I think it wouldn't be a mistake for them to take a year off and do a complete overhaul in terms of what features they have, what engine they use, what the GUI looks like and in terms of usability. As it is, it's all kind of a clusterfuck, because essentially they're still using the same menus from the old games, but have over the years added five million additional features and it's a chore going through all the menus.

Garrus · « **Reply #428 on:** September 9, 2022, 03:14:52 pm »

Quote from: stoa on September 9, 2022, 09:49:31 am

I played one of those versions (either Touch or Mobile) some years ago and it was perfect to get through a whole season per day. If that's what you want, it was the perfect game. It also felt very much like the early FM or even the CM games.

Having said that, I think they've gone in a better direction recently with the FM series. I've been very critical in the past of how in depth, but also how broken the whole game was in some areas. Like you had to basically do real scouting and adjust your tactics for every single match. I absolutely hated that. There were also serious issues in my view with player morale and having to interact with them on a regular basis. If you couldn't be arsed with that, sooner or later things would go tits up. Both those things have gotten better in recent versions. It's possible to create a tactic that works most of the team with limited tweaking (which you can take advice for from your assistant or some other coach). It's also much easier to deal with players even when they're unhappy about something. The game is still very much in-depth and it takes quite a long time to complete a season, but I think compared to some older versions from five years or so ago it's much more fun to play at the moment. Having said that, I think it wouldn't be a mistake for them to take a year off and do a complete overhaul in terms of what features they have, what engine they use, what the GUI looks like and in terms of usability. As it is, it's all kind of a clusterfuck, because essentially they're still using the same menus from the old games, but have over the years added five million additional features and it's a chore going through all the menus.

I agree with your post.

Touch had its limitations but I really enjoyed the speed at which I could go through a save and the fact it shared the same match engine and AI as the main game(even without ever using instant result), I just wish they could have kept working on it but I suppose it didn't really make them much money.

I still enjoy the game for what it is but it's very frustrating if you don't have all that much time to spend on it. Completely agree with the GUI and user interface. I got into CM/FM quite early but if I were to get into it now, I'd probably be overwhelmed.

tubby · « **Reply #429 on:** September 9, 2022, 06:15:05 pm »

Quote from: Solomon Grundy on September 3, 2022, 10:30:04 am

I think this game has lost its way. It's become far too in-depth which has taken away some of the fun. I mean who really enjoys having to deal with players moaning about playing time every two-three games? I don't. Who is really arsed about player analytics? I'm not. It needs to get back to basics. That is what was so good about CM 01/02. It had the balance just right. It was fun to play and It was brilliant. Now I know they won't do it, but they just need to strip it back a little and concentrate more on the match engine. I mean Top Elevens 3D match engine is better. And that really shouldn't be the case.

I gave up on FM a fair few years ago because it just felt like tactics were getting prioritised over players and the match engine was representing that in really stupid ways. Like if you had a great team but tactics that weren't what the ME thinks are solid tactics, then you'd get really erratic behaviour from players, stuff like players just booting it off the pitch, missing easy passes or strikers with great stats whiffing chance after chance after clear cut chance. Was really stupid.

Lycan · « **Reply #430 on:** September 11, 2022, 04:39:45 pm »

I really hope they've spent a bit more time with the match engine this time around.

Also, another issue I have with the game is once you've built an all-conquering side, the game becomes a bit too easy. Swatting teams 3, 4, 5-0 every week. Racking up ridiculous GD and finishing 15-20+ points ahead of everyone each season. I'd like the AI to give me a bit more of a challenge than that because it can become boring for me.

ToneLa · « **Reply #431 on:** September 17, 2022, 05:17:20 pm »

This is free to claim on Amazon gaming

https://gaming.amazon.com/loot/footballmanager2022?ingress=amzn&ref_=SM_FM2201F_P1_CRWN

literally anything else please? · « **Reply #432 on:** September 18, 2022, 07:36:46 pm »

Does Brexit mean that I can't sign foreign U18 players in England? and if so can you still turn it off in the editor?

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #433 on:** October 21, 2022, 05:36:10 am »

Beta version is now available.

Hedley Lamarr · « **Reply #434 on:** October 21, 2022, 08:18:32 am »

This is going to be on Gamepass, both console and PC version, which is a pleasant surprise.

stoa · « **Reply #435 on:** October 21, 2022, 09:14:36 am »

Quote from: Hedley Lamarr on October 21, 2022, 08:18:32 am

This is going to be on Gamepass, both console and PC version, which is a pleasant surprise.

Yeah, last year's version was on PC Gamepass on release day as well, which is great. Would be really interesting to know the maths for that in terms of how much money SI games makes compared to just releasing the game normally and people having to buy the game.

gerrardisgod · « **Reply #436 on:** October 21, 2022, 09:17:09 am »

There was a snippet recently (I’m assuming from the Activision deal), where a deal for a game being on Game Pass was mentioned, sure it was around £6m.

I’ll have a dig around and see if I can find it. Might have been on a podcast actually. Or I dreamt it.

ScottScott · « **Reply #437 on:** October 21, 2022, 12:21:57 pm »

MS paid $2.5m to the Ark developers to get Ark on Game Pass. They've also signed a deal with them for Ark 2 whereby they pay $2.3m to get it on Game Pass for 3 years

I imagine SI are getting a good amount of money seeing as it always seems to be around the Steam charts for the entire year

Lycan · « **Reply #438 on:** October 22, 2022, 10:36:47 am »

Has SI been basing their GK animations on Jordan Pickford? Because they keep diving after the ball has already gone past them on this Beta version.

Would be a nice little touch if the other players went over and celebrated with the goal-scorer too.

Max_powers · « **Reply #439 on:** April 11, 2023, 11:05:19 pm »

I always play FM 2012 even though I have 2016 and 2019.

But goddamn sometimes the older games can be frustrating. This just happened to me.

- Playing as Nocerina in Serie B
- Sign a Brazilian center back from Portuguese second division
- He is really good at Serie B level so make him my captain.
- Team gets promoted
- Couple of seasons later, the team making the CL spots and win the Italian cup.
- Captain is still a starter for my team, but wants to leave to join a bigger club.
- I am ok with him moving as I got bunch of elite wonderkid CBs coming up
- Transfer list him for a reasonable price of 4 million euros. No bites.
- Drop the price to 2 million still no one wants him
- Drop the price to 500k, still no one wants him

What the hell! the man is 26 years old and a starter for a CL level team on a very reasonable wage.