Topic: PL: Everton 2 v The Champions 2 Mane 2' Keane 19’ Mo 71’ Calvert ‘80

[redtel]

Only one negative i can say about this side really we're really too nice. How any of them didn't attack Pickford or Richarlison after that I'll never know.

Agreed. However when the latter is lying on the floor for minutes pretending he is injured it’s difficult to get at him.
Richarlison behaves like a spoilt brat every time he steps on the pitch. Sour, surly and a danger to any player he takes a dislike to. Found his true home with his current club.

[Jm55]

Did Mrs. Appalled give you a yellow card for taking your shirt off?

The fact my girlfriend was out the house both during the initial celebration and the subsequent fewm at the decision is about the only positive I can take from that incident.

[killer-heels]

Obviously people are upset at the Van Dijk incident but I am majorly ready for this mad season. It needed something to brighten up the dull nature of the games due to no crowd and if its going to be mad with lots of goals then I cannot wait.

Also people need to remember that what we saw on Saturday was one of the finest midfield performances from Fabinho, Henderson and Thiago that I have ever seen watching Liverpool. Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso were a great midfield but I don't think the latter two are as good as Thiago and Fabinho in particular. I cannot wait to see more of us as a attacking unit because combine them, Trent who will start to have more influence in the games and Salah, Robertson and Mane who are more than up for it thus far and I think we will be handing out quite a number of beatings.

[Redbonnie]

I wonder about the scope of legal action against Everton/Pickford. There is a precedent from a  young Man U player who’s career was ended. I assume Van Dijks wages will be insured but I am sure that given he is an 80 million plus ( based on McGuire) player there has been a lot of money lost there.  I can see why the club would be reluctant but may make people(and donkeys like Pickford)  think twice before chopping down elite sportsmen. If I was Klopp I wouldn’t risk such players in non premier league games such as FA cup. The players are not being protected.

[Jm55]

I wonder about the scope of legal action against Everton/Pickford. There is a precedent from a  young Man U player who’s career was ended. I assume Van Dijks wages will be insured but I am sure that given he is an 80 million plus ( based on McGuire) player there has been a lot of money lost there.  I can see why the club would be reluctant but may make people(and donkeys like Pickford)  think twice before chopping down elite sportsmen. If I was Klopp I wouldn’t risk such players in non premier league games such as FA cup. The players are not being protected.

If you’re basing it on Maguire he’s a 200 million pound player.

[Son of Spion]

The fact my girlfriend was out the house both during the initial celebration and the subsequent fewm at the decision is about the only positive I can take from that incident.

Yes, no one wants their partner to see them reduced to a gibbering, blubbering wreck on the floor, do they.

 😄😂  😵😱  😭😥

[Andypandimonium]

If ever one game highlighted how VAR and referees have sucked the life out of the sport, then this was it. Find any reason they can not to give a red card for a fuckwit English keeper assaulting a top professional, whilst doling out pens elsewhere for the merest contact between defender and attacker; chalk off a perfectly valid goal from open-play, the very lifeblood of the game for the fans, after an interminable wait for VAR to find a line that doesn't exist, whilst awarding spot kicks for a slight brush of ball to arm. Game is a bogey unless something changes soon. How long will fans put up with this nonsense once let back into grounds?

My only interest in the sport now is LFC...can barely watch anything that doesn't involve the boys in red. I hope that Jurgen will have the boys swashbuckle their way through the rest of this tainted season and single-handedly save the game we love(d). Up the reds and feck everyone else!

 

[Jm55]

Yes, no one wants their partner to see them reduced to a gibbering, blubbering wreck on the floor, do they.

 😄😂  😵😱  😭😥

I think it was more of some screaming ‘you fucking c*nt’ at the tv screen.’

Last time I was that annoyed at a decision in football was the last time Cootes fucked us over at Old Trafford.

[stockdam]

Agreed. However when the latter is lying on the floor for minutes pretending he is injured it’s difficult to get at him.
Richarlison behaves like a spoilt brat every time he steps on the pitch. Sour, surly and a danger to any player he takes a dislike to. Found his true home with his current club.

I’m not saying this because of who he plays for but he and Bernardo Silva are by far the most snidey players around. They are in the same category as El Hadji Diouf. They bring nothing to the game.

Richarlison is just about the “worst” player I have seen.

Oh and I’m now going to add James to that list. I hadn’t seen much of him but I really cannot stand the card waving prick.

[So Howard Philips]

I’m not saying this because of who he plays for but he and Bernardo Silva are by far the most snidey players around. They are in the same category as El Hadji Diouf. They bring nothing to the game.

Richarlison is just about the “worst” player I have seen.

Oh and I’m now going to add James to that list. I hadn’t seen much of him but I really cannot stand the card waving prick.

And Lamella.

[Nobby Reserve]

If you’re basing it on Maguire he’s a 200 million pound player.

Is that what Maguire's bail is set at?

[JRed]

This thread is turning into GoT or Blue Loon with some of the lashing around.

This is an exceptional circumstance and fans have every right to be angry.

[lukeb1981]

Only one negative i can say about this side really we're really too nice. How any of them didn't attack Pickford or Richarlison after that I'll never know.

Agree with you , I think if they lost the plot on Pickford , Oliver would have went to his pocket .

[JRed]

Only one negative i can say about this side really we're really too nice. How any of them didn't attack Pickford or Richarlison after that I'll never know.

I agree. I’m extremely disappointed Pickford , and the referee, weren’t surround by fuming Liverpool players.
We’ve been right royally fucked over by the officials and they’ve closed ranks to cover their own arses.
We can only use it to fuel our desire to fuck them over by winning the title again this season.
We can also only hope that Karma catches up with the blue thug and the VAR, David c*nt

[El Lobo]

Did Mrs. Appalled give you a yellow card for taking your shirt off?

It’s actually an instant dismissal....but she was at work so didn’t see it. And VAR didn’t deem it serious enough, which is laughable.

[So Howard Philips]

This is an exceptional circumstance and fans have every right to be angry.

Angry, yes. Juvenile levels of petulance?

Leave that to the other nutters.

[Son of Spion]

It’s actually an instant dismissal....but she was at work so didn’t see it. And VAR didn’t deem it serious enough, which is laughable.

Another shocking decision by VAR then, eh.   

[Danny Boy]

Only one negative i can say about this side really we're really too nice. How any of them didn't attack Pickford or Richarlison after that I'll never know.

Because then we'd have been down to 10 men.

Plenty of other times we've all been delighted to see the balls this team has grown - think Robbo in Qatar for example. Hendo never one to shy away from a confrontation (Diego Costa).

[exiledintheUSA]

I'm sure one of our players will see Pickford out in the area soon enough.  Nothing a quick one-two combo to the face won't sort out.

[Gods_Left_Boot]

I'm sure one of our players will see Pickford out in the area soon enough.  Nothing a quick one-two combo to the face won't sort out.

Nah, no need to stoop that low. There's a perfectly good international break next month in which both us and the bitters have England and Brazil internationals. As much as it would be a real shame if some kind of accident happened, we've just seen with Ali that unfortunately a training injury is always a possibility.

[JRed]

Nah, no need to stoop that low. There's a perfectly good international break next month in which both us and the bitters have England and Brazil internationals. As much as it would be a real shame if some kind of accident happened, we've just seen with Ali that unfortunately a training injury is always a possibility.

What I absolutely do not want to see is any pictures of our players laughing and joking with that blue twat during England training!

[Beninger]

Except this isn’t what happened.

He can’t be retrospectively punished because they DID look at it and decided it wasn’t deserving of a red card.

And also, strangely, decided it wasn’t worth the ref having a look not he pitchside monitors which is meant to be the norm these days.

The strange thing is I thought they said they didn’t review it as a red on Saturday and then changed their story to say they did, which means they can’t do anything about it now. Meanwhile, Virgil is fucked.

[stockdam]

Loads of their players laughing about it on that post, as well.

Is it still on Twitter?
Are our players allowed to post shite on Twitter.
Btw, don’t go near Twitter........it’s full of idiots.

[Kekule]

Classy.   

Isn’t taking the card out of the refs hand like that dissent?  Players have seen red themselves on the continent for doing stuff like that. 

It wasn’t really the time for that sort of thing either was it? Not when someone’s lying on the floor potentially seriously injured.  Fortunately Thiago wasn’t badly injured, but Digne didn’t know that when he was doing his “epic bantz...megalolz” act. Was he larking about with Martin Atkinson and running off giggling with his red card when Andre Gomes was lying on the floor injured that time? Twat.

[christofu]

Also people need to remember that what we saw on Saturday was one of the finest midfield performances from Fabinho, Henderson and Thiago that I have ever seen watching Liverpool. Gerrard, Mascherano and Alonso were a great midfield but I don't think the latter two are as good as Thiago and Fabinho in particular. I cannot wait to see more of us as a attacking unit because combine them, Trent who will start to have more influence in the games and Salah, Robertson and Mane who are more than up for it thus far and I think we will be handing out quite a number of beatings.

It was a delight to watch on both sides of the ball. More of that please 

[Melbred]

If anything, this game will create a massive siege mentality for the squad.

We've been coasting a little bit, but now we'll be angry. Once Alisson is back we are going to blow teams away.

[Dull Tools]

Aside from the shocking refereeing, I think we could have played better.

I really thought we were very slow in the second half up to around the 75th minute. I think were lacked intensity and weren't winning any second balls in a similar way as we did against Villa. At one point I was commenting on it and you could see Klopp screaming second ball.

I only think this changed when Everton took Doucoure and Gomes off and ruined their midfield balance. I think Salah's goal was against the run of play.

Thiago for me was the only one winning balls and making challenges.

[kasperoff]

I think PGMOL can do themselves a big favour in just releasing the screen shot and the lines they have that show Mane as offside...but i'm pretty sure they wont and i suspect we know why

Absolutely. This could be very easily put to bed. . . . . .or not!

[killer-heels]

Aside from the shocking refereeing, I think we could have played better.

I really thought we were very slow in the second half up to around the 75th minute. I think were lacked intensity and weren't winning any second balls in a similar way as we did against Villa. At one point I was commenting on it and you could see Klopp screaming second ball.

I only think this changed when Everton took Doucoure and Gomes off and ruined their midfield balance. I think Salah's goal was against the run of play.

Thiago for me was the only one winning balls and making challenges.

Of all the analysis of the game (and there has been very little) that is without doubt the worst.

Look at Fabinho's challenges, he won nearly all of them. Gomes got his arse handed to him and he was probably in a daze when he went off and Allan reverted to just kicking people. There is a reason Gomes and Dacoure went off, they wouldn't have if they were dominating it.

Everton started the second half well but from about 60, we took complete control.

We won more challenges, took more shots, were in their half and final third more, had more possession and created more clear cut chances and were ahead in xG. We dominated that game and should have won.

Their midfield got their arses handed to them, which is why they bypassed it and went straight to Calvert-Lewin.

[U13]

He also had an absolutely horror challenge on Alli a couple of years back.

Yeah and they all carry the same hallmarks:

- both feet at shin to knee height
- a scissor action to trap the opposition player's leg
- players at risk of serious injury

This notion being bandied around that the challenge on VVD was a freak accident is driving me nuts, he's made that type of challenge repeatedly and it was only a matter of time until he seriously injured someone.

[Shite Name]

Only one negative i can say about this side really we're really too nice. How any of them didn't attack Pickford or Richarlison after that I'll never know.

If I was a Liverpool player, I’d genuinely have to volley that c*nt Pickford in the face the next time I was away with him for England.

[kasperoff]

Still no apology from either Pickford or Coote then.

To offer Pickford a crumb, he did actually ask Virgil if he was OK and asked for the physio after he assaulted him. I think the Pickford stuff is going a bit too far.

He's a shit keeper who gets too excited and has a history of hurting people via over exuberance. I don't think he's actually properly malicious.

The best thing for him would have to actually been sent off a the time, which he absolutely should have been.

Can totally understand why he's public enemy #1, but it was poor play and carelessness. He needs to calm the fuck down. Then again, why would he, he never gets punished!

[Dull Tools]

Of all the analysis of the game (and there has been very little) that is without doubt the worst.

Look at Fabinho's challenges, he won nearly all of them. Gomes got his arse handed to him and he was probably in a daze when he went off and Allan reverted to just kicking people. There is a reason Gomes and Dacoure went off, they wouldn't have if they were dominating it.

Everton started the second half well but from about 60, we took complete control.

We won more challenges, took more shots, were in their half and final third more, had more possession and created more clear cut chances and were ahead in xG. We dominated that game and should have won.

Their midfield got their arses handed to them, which is why they bypassed it and went straight to Calvert-Lewin.

Possibly it is. But I didn't say we were outcompeted for the whole game. Just the spell before Salah scored in the second half.

I think that probably was because they bypassed our midfield and if you look they won a lot more of the ariel duals. I think we struggled to get a grip of the game when they were doing that. I also think a lot of it may be due to the fact we weren't playing the balls back to Adrian as much and ,when we did, Adrian obviously goes long more than Allison.

Obviously overall we deserved to win and had the better chances but it was far from a complete performance.

[kasperoff]

I'm sure one of our players will see Pickford out in the area soon enough.  Nothing a quick one-two combo to the face won't sort out.

Suspect karma will do it's job. He won't be in goal for Everton for long. Joe Hart-esque career awaits him.

[Kekule]

Yeah and they all carry the same hallmarks:

- both feet at shin to knee height
- a scissor action to trap the opposition player's leg
- players at risk of serious injury

This notion being bandied around that the challenge on VVD was a freak accident is driving me nuts, he's made that type of challenge repeatedly and it was only a matter of time until he seriously injured someone.

And he will do it again.  And it’s entirely possible that it will be on one of England’s great hopes just before the Euros or the World Cup.  And then all of a sudden it won’t be quite so amusing, it won’t just be a handful of fans pointing out how he’s done similar several times before, and they’ll all be whining and asking why nothing had been done about it.

[Bread]

Suspect karma will do it's job. He won't be in goal for Everton for long. Joe Hart-esque career awaits him.

Joe Hart is 33 and still manages to find a place on the bench at a Top 6 club. With a bit of luck, Pickford will be 3rd choice at a League 2 team before he's 28.

[kasperoff]

Joe Hart is 33 and still manages to find a place on the bench at a Top 6 club. With a bit of luck, Pickford will be 3rd choice at a League 2 team before he's 28.

Becoming a journeyman in your prime after being #1 for the champions is hardly a good look! But I take you point.

[Ghost Town]

Did Mrs. Appalled give you a yellow card for taking your shirt off?

Think you're making one major assumption there... 

[stockdam]

To offer Pickford a crumb, he did actually ask Virgil if he was OK and asked for the physio after he assaulted him. I think the Pickford stuff is going a bit too far.

He's a shit keeper who gets too excited and has a history of hurting people via over exuberance. I don't think he's actually properly malicious.

The best thing for him would have to actually been sent off a the time, which he absolutely should have been.

Can totally understand why he's public enemy #1, but it was poor play and carelessness. He needs to calm the fuck down. Then again, why would he, he never gets punished!

No he didn’t deliberately try to injure Virgil. I’ve had two bad tackles made on me and both times you know they were deliberate. The person is still full of anger and says something to you as if it is your fault or runs away smirking.

Pickford tends to spread his feet when tackling which is poor technique, he is trying to maximise the chances of getting the ball. However when it goes wrong you slide past or over the ball and your full weight goes onto the other players standing leg.


You can see here what will happen as soon as Pickford misses the ball.

[TheMissionary]

I just can't get my head around Mane's "offside"

I can't get my head round either offside.  They keep saying Virgil was offside so it couldn't be a sending off (that's not true) .  He wasn't offside, for two reasons - 1) if you have to draw lines to see if part of a person is beyond another and are measuring millimetres he's not offside and 2) he wasn't offfuckingside!

Sorry, the weekend really annoyed me and I've now just spent an hour going in circles with hewlett packard customer support (oxymoron?) so am pissed off to the very back teeth.