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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Our fantastic away support
« Last post by Pata on Today at 12:15:24 am »Solid, not brilliant, but solid.Huh? The first half was… well, deader than the eponymous dead horse.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Are you enjoying it?
« Last post by bradders1011 on Today at 12:15:06 am »The Banter-Industrial Complex goes from strength to strength. A newly-assembled Liverpool side not quite getting there in a 3-way title race is 'bottling' and cause of mirth. People going on about Liverpool thinking they were on for a quadruple...of course we did, why wouldn't you? Why would you bother with it if you didn't aim to win stuff?
It's not just us, Arsenal went out to Bayern in the CL QFs and were laughed at by the social media fuckwits.
The tribalism means nothing will ever improve. We all know social media is cancer and one of humanity's worst ever inventions. It's all so tiresome. I don't know, I'm just shattered after 8+ years of pretty much every single game and loads of ones involving our rivals having existential meaning.
We as Liverpool fans get the butt of most of the mainstream banter culture and we all see the poverty, calm down, tragedy shouts. United are getting it too and are in our 90s cycle of despair. Even City winning stuff know deep down that it's hollow, and if they don't they spend most of their time arguing against people telling them it is. Everyone else in the country is fighting for survival or for a sweet lick of that PL cash, despite the likelihood of being battered every week.
VAR, the refs and sportswashing too - need I elaborate?
Is anybody having fun any more?
It's not just us, Arsenal went out to Bayern in the CL QFs and were laughed at by the social media fuckwits.
The tribalism means nothing will ever improve. We all know social media is cancer and one of humanity's worst ever inventions. It's all so tiresome. I don't know, I'm just shattered after 8+ years of pretty much every single game and loads of ones involving our rivals having existential meaning.
We as Liverpool fans get the butt of most of the mainstream banter culture and we all see the poverty, calm down, tragedy shouts. United are getting it too and are in our 90s cycle of despair. Even City winning stuff know deep down that it's hollow, and if they don't they spend most of their time arguing against people telling them it is. Everyone else in the country is fighting for survival or for a sweet lick of that PL cash, despite the likelihood of being battered every week.
VAR, the refs and sportswashing too - need I elaborate?
Is anybody having fun any more?
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 12:14:06 am »Whatever Al. What are the ideal models? (post a unique Fergerson)
I'd have said a non-financially doped City with their team and manager. But they're out of the CL.
Arsenal - Arteta has done a great job but they are out of the CL. Whose behind him anyway
What about all of the teams left in the CL, should we / do we want to be like any of them. I've no idea what their set up is.
Liverpool in the 70's and 80's, Ferguson in the 90's and 00's, Wenger in the 00's have all been the dominant teams with the manager having a huge amount of power. Guardiola has dominated recently with a huge amount of power. Arsenal have flourished since under Arteta who has a lot of power.
The biggest turnaround in the Premier League has been Aston Villa with Emery bringing in his own DoF in Monchi and having a huge amount of power. Our best seasons over the last couple of decades have been when the likes of Benitez and Klopp had huge amounts of power.
No one in this League has ever had a transformative SD or DoF who has changed things and turned their team into the dominant force.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by PaleBlueDot on Today at 12:08:17 am »Just checked this out of interest.
Feyenoord average 62% possession and complete 85% of their passes.
Liverpool average 62% possession and complete 86% of their passes.
Okay and? I never said we'd have more possession. How we use the ball will be different.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by John C on Today at 12:07:57 am »In that case why was Rodgers getting Gerrard to cold call prospective recruits.So whats your point here?
As Gerrard explains:
‘I had an unofficial role at the club, trying to persuade some great players to join Liverpool. It was the same ritual every summer. The club would let me know which long-shot target they had in mind and then ask me to contact him. They thought that a request to consider moving to Liverpool would have more impact coming from me.’
He admits that one ‘long-shot target’ was very ambitious indeed:
‘Brendan asked me to take a crack at trying to talk Toni Kroos into signing for Liverpool. He smiled when I said we’d be p***ing into the wind with this one…I knew Real Madrid were gearing up to make Bayern Munich an offer and so I felt a bit awkward when I texted Kroos. The German was on his way to winning the World Cup with his country and Real were the champions of Europe.
‘Some of the best footballers in the world can also be the most respectful. Kroos didn’t make me feel like I was a total idiot. But, of course, he would soon sign for Real Madrid. We had a nice little exchange of texts and I said well done and good luck.’
I said the Club should be the attraction, you seem endorse an individual should (not could) be an attraction but the example you gave failed.
fml, I know how Yorky feels now.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by Samie on Today at 12:07:01 am »We became a lot stronger when Klopp convinced Van Dijk to turn down City and Chelsea and sign for us. Do you honestly think that happens without Klopp meeting up with Van Dijk.
I don't know probably not but now you're getting into hypotheticals.
LFC of 2024 is stronger than in 2014 that is a fact without a shadow of a doubt.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by Sinyoro on Today at 12:06:36 am »Manchester City
Arsenal
arguably Liverpool 2016-2022
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Atletico Madrid
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
Bayer Leverkusen
Paris Saint-Germain
Ajax
Porto
Benfica
...
It's actually hard to find a club that doesn't!
We are catching up, good to see.
Thanks
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by elkun on Today at 12:06:17 am »His reputation (which is hugely over exaggerated) preceded him today, when Coufal put the ball out but the officials immediately assumed it was a miss.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Welcome to Liverpool Ryan Jiro Gravenberch
« Last post by RedG13 on Today at 12:05:17 am »No I understand all of this, but will the new manager have a different profile of player to build the team around?Probably looking at similar Philosophy stuff wise.
Depend who takes over and their philosphopy?
Or do they go with someone with a similar one?
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by KC7 on Today at 12:05:08 am »It's like the motto of all political careers end in failure. If a player leaves Liverpool it's either because he's fucked us off for another club (Coutinho/Torres/Sterling), we've fucked him off because he's not been good enough/we've got a good offer, or his legs are going and we're having to faze him out/a contractual issue for a player over 30.
One of the reasons we get a lot of bitter ex-players as pundits is due to how they left.
The likes of Firmino and Milner are the exceptions in that their contracts are up and they get the big send offs in their last game. Milner still disappointed not to be kept on though.
Is there a worse one than McManaman? My God the bitterness when he speaks about us. Also uses Rob Jones as a stick to beat us with Jones not getting a contact due to his injuries, basically the club look after number one. He was our player of the decade imo (others may say Fowler, but it was McManaman who ran the show for us, "stop him, stop us" was basically the tactic by the opposition), and yet it's as though he is a stranger to us. You never really see him spoken fondly off or feature in any lists of great players. The split clearly was acrimonious and I'm convinced some have forgot just how incredible he was for us. His R.Madrid years being great are a myth, as he was a pale shadow of what he was for us. Remember watching him alot and he would pass the ball off quickly rather than do one of those mazy dribbles he so frequently did here. He played within himself at Madrid (being a foreigner and being surrounded by Raul, Redondo, Figo etc. of course meant he was no longer the main man, but he looked inhibited whenever I watched). Great goal in the first final he played in mind.