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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Wabaloolah on Today at 12:25:39 pm »
100%. Our management of contracts has been pretty poor to the point we had to rebuild our entire midfield in one transfer window. I think he will be first on the list for Edwards to move on. Get his wages off the book and maybe get two players in for him that we can get 5-6 year out of.
and what if he doesn't want to leave? What would you do make him train with the academy?
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by tunred on Today at 12:24:57 pm »
Might be overreacting but his finishing cost us the title. Time an time again he misses a clear cut chance to open the score or put us 2-0 up and we end up conceding a goal and having to run after the score.
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I watched the game on a US stream and the difference in how the incident was reported at the time on NBC compared to TNT and MOTD was incredible. Dixon instantly called Taylor and out and stated that he had told the keeper to go down. Pearce instantly backed the ref and said he had seen he was injured.
I also thought it was interesting that Dixon, an ex-Arsenal stalwart, would be remonstrating this, a decision that cost us 2 points.

Imagine Micah Richards in the same scenario. Cue nervous laughter "hahahah....the ref's blown the whistle that's that...the goalie is obviously injured...Gakpo must have fouled him just before" (off-mic "oi, bring that buffet cart back!")
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Maybe there need to be more rules in football to address what happens when a ref makes a mistake. Similarly how players get punished for breaking the rules, refs could have a set list of punishments. Wrongly awarded freekick - yellow - one match ban. Disallow a perfectly fine goal - red - three match ban.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by MonsLibpool on Today at 12:21:22 pm »
There’s nothing to expand it’s a crazy post, and quite disrespectful actually. Salah and Mane didn’t grow up in first world economies, the effort willpower and skill level it took for them to make it right to the very top gives me an indication that they would have got there one way or the other regardless. You making it seem as if Klopp is some type of deity who can transform trash to gold, but the same never happened with Emre Can, it never happened with Origi, these players had a good level of natural talent but never emerged into world class players that many would have predicted for them at age 18/19.

Salah and Mane did, so there’s no need to minimalize their hard work and effort and put all at the hands of Klopp, it doesn’t work like that, there story was already half way written before they came here.

Klopp is the best manager in the world but he isn’t a miracle worker, he couldn’t turn a Karius into an Alisson.
I don't agree with you but that's fine and I won't call your post "crazy".

The other week some said it was crazy to suggest dropping him and I think you were part of them so I'm not surprised.

You can be delusional some times, I guess that applies for us all, but that’s a silly comment, given Salahs record against united and his overall level.
He scored a goal, how poor can he be, he wasn’t poor he just wasn’t anything special but he played his part in what should have been a win for us.

He’s had a couple poor games where he still contributes only a absolute mad man will bench your best player in one of the biggest games of the season against a team he has like 12 goals and 4 assists in the same amount of games.

Lucky Klopp is not a mad man.

Like I said that day as well, agree to disagree.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 12:20:25 pm »
20 goals minimum should be the target

we will buy a top class forward in the summer that will get the goals next season

Firmino's best season was when he got 15 League goals and in 8 seasons here scored 82 League goals so 10.5 per season. Not good enough.

Mane's had one season when he scored 20+ league goals and in 6 seasons scored 90 League goals so 15 per season. Not good enough for you.

Interestingly at a similar age to Nunez now in their two first full seasons playing more minutes than Nunez. Firmino got 21 goals and Mane got 23 goals. With 3 games left Nunez has 20 in his first two seasons.

So why were Mane and Firmino clearly good enough but Nunez isn't?
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Coolie High on Today at 12:18:15 pm »
I have expanded on this above.

There’s nothing to expand it’s a crazy post, and quite disrespectful actually. Salah and Mane didn’t grow up in first world economies, the effort willpower and skill level it took for them to make it right to the very top gives me an indication that they would have got there one way or the other regardless. You making it seem as if Klopp is some type of deity who can transform trash to gold, but the same never happened with Emre Can, it never happened with Origi, these players had a good level of natural talent but never emerged into world class players that many would have predicted for them at age 18/19.

Salah and Mane did, so there’s no need to minimalize their hard work and effort and put all at the hands of Klopp, it doesn’t work like that, there story was already half way written before they came here.

Klopp is the best manager in the world but he isn’t a miracle worker, he couldn’t turn a Karius into an Alisson.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by RyanBabel19 on Today at 12:16:00 pm »
I'm amazed so many people are straw manning the shit out of this... imagine quote posting James Pearce and his desperate attempts to cling on to relevance by hyping everything to shit (is there a single lfc journo that actually operates in the clubs best interests?)

Why isn't it possible to think he was out of order yesterday but that losing your rag with someone isn't actually that big a deal compared to years of not only a good relationship but also incredible success?

Fuck me if you all applied this standard to your personal life you'd all be dying alone

Think its born out of built up frustration at Klopp going, how the season has just taken a divebomb in next to no time, Salahs horrendous form and peoples views on respect.

Everyone wants to see us succeed, everyone is gutted Klopps going and the margin for error is so small in football now that losses or draws are devastating and the fans feel it. Some have been unsure on if Salah has still got 'it' this season and recent form has been as bad as you'll see. I genuinely never thought i'd see the day Salah could barely control the ball but recent weeks have been pretty insane, some awful awful play!! Not starting yesterday is understandable, it wasn't some insane decision that couldn't be justified, he deserved benching! We all know players want to play, come on fired up, that's completely fine... but to blank a manager who has done so much for the club, put his neck on the line for the players, fans, club etc and is clearly really struggling at the moment (it's written all over his face) will naturally infuriate many.

I'm not saying you're wrong, for the record I agree with you, but I think the frustration is a build up. All but one of the seasons targets are gone and in the recent weeks (which will be peoples focus) Salah hasn't shown up, to then disrespect the manager isn't on. In terms of form I think people are also fearing another Hendo, Fab scenario, it was like a lightswitch the way their form fell off a cliff, maybe some see Salah and think history is repeating itself and we need to right the wrongs of last season, I again disagree on that being the way to go but we have to take into account frustration sometime shows in bizarre ways.

Salah is elite and hasn't lost it at all, suggesting otherwise is mad but I think the comments are a combination of many factors built up over time as opposed to 'he disrespected Klopp... sell up'.

I was disappointed more than anything, falling out happens, different things occur but in the circumstances, Klopp wasn't wrong IMO, show the same respect you would want. He would be lividddd if Klopp did the equivalent to him.

Obviously this is just my perception and there will be some who genuinely just think he disrespected klopp so must go but for the majority who seem enraged I think it's a build up of frustration showing
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Wool on Today at 12:15:51 pm »
I’m happy to tell him to get fucked.Id tear up his contract today if I could.

He’s been an absolute hero for us as a player, one of our all time greats. But once the murals have washed away and his song stopped being sung - there will still be a statue outside of Jurgen Klopp.

One of the qualities Jurgen expects from the culture he cultivates is humility and respect - and yesterday this gobshite thought he is bigger than all that, honestly I’d drag him out the door. Is he he so fucking stupid and arrogant he can’t see why he’s been benched, he’s been fucking atrocious for weeks. To then publically undermine the boss because ‘his feelings are hurt’ he can get fucked.
Embarrassing.
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I reckon we'll be in for some shocks. I doubt we spend £100m on a player though. Wirtz and Musiala will be that and more.

I'm still shocked we let Lukeba go to Leipzig for £28m.

As long as its some really good footballers. In my opinion we have lost our way with signings since and including the summer of 2022. Many of the players signed then and since have question marks over them bar Mac Allister.
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