Topic: Louis Van Gaal was the Manager of Mourinho United

[L666KOP]

[4pool]

Man U shirts probably outsell Chelsea, arsenal and city combined, so I'm sure adidas won't think it's such a risky investment

Granted they sell more shirts than we do.

But not 3-4 times as much.

For  75M  figure there needs to be more in it other than kits.

[Lenin.]

Lol at the Mancs bragging about shirts. Mid table wankers.)

[4pool]

It may include a naming rights for OT.

Adidas Arena at Old Trafford or some such..

[Brian Blessed]

We've been crap a season not 25.

We were crap for a single season once. Then it was two...then three....you get the idea.

[swooshboy]

It may include a naming rights for OT.

Adidas Arena at Old Trafford or some such..

The club has already stated that they will not be changing the stadium name.

Don't think anyone is bragging about shirts, but the news that this new deal could bring in this sort of money is understandably very welcome.

[swooshboy]

I am still very surprised that Nike have decided not to renew the deal - would have put money on them doing so.

Especially given that they also decided against extending the Arsenal deal.

[CraigDS]

I am still very surprised that Nike have decided not to renew the deal - would have put money on them doing so.

Especially given that they also decided against extending the Arsenal deal.

Nike are probably trying to concentrate on the big clubs they sponsor.

[Hij]

Nike are probably trying to concentrate on the big clubs they sponsor.

[swooshboy]

Nike are probably trying to concentrate on the big clubs they sponsor.

Haha

I think if adi had any doubt that United wouldn't be able to turn around last season's performance (and do so quickly), then they would not be offering such a large amount.

[swooshboy]

But you do make a good point - both adi and Nike will have to concentrate on their clubs, as this deal (providing it goes through) will now be used as a benchmark by Real, Barca, even yourselves.

[SA RED]

Have Adidas formally approached these or is it all just speculation?

[Crosby Nick]

But you do make a good point - both adi and Nike will have to concentrate on their clubs, as this deal (providing it goes through) will now be used as a benchmark by Real, Barca, even yourselves.

Will you be requesting a username change to 3stripeboy?

[swooshboy]

Have Adidas formally approached these or is it all just speculation?

They are definitely in negotiations with United - as were Nike and Warrior (i believe Warrior were).

Nike have confirmed that they will not be renewing their deal - and their reason is that the terms on offer were not agreeable to them.

The clear assumption is that adi have offered more than Nike were willing to pay (not more than they could afford, just more than they were willing).

I wouldn't be surprised if adi offered a huge amount with the expectation that Nike would choose to simply match it. A few years ago, Nike offered a huge increase on the existing deal to try and get the German national team kit deal. They knew that the German federation was extremely unlikely to split from their adidas deal, but it did force adi to vastly increase what they had been willing to pay.

I think something similar has happened here - except Nike decided that if adi wanted to pay that much, they were welcome to.

[swooshboy]

Will you be requesting a username change to 3stripeboy?

Haha never!!

I'm pretty loyal to Nike - was given that name as a nickname since Nike / Jordan are the only sportswear brand I will wear. I worked for Nike for 12 years, so have been fully brainwashed

[Durlmints]

Haha never!!

I'm pretty loyal to Nike - was given that name as a nickname since Nike / Jordan are the only sportswear brand I will wear. I worked for Nike for 12 years, so have been fully brainwashed

You reckon the ol' Swoosh Maestro's will ever bid for a Liverpool deal?

[Ziltoid]

Haha never!!

I'm pretty loyal to Nike - was given that name as a nickname since Nike / Jordan are the only sportswear brand I will wear. I worked for Nike for 12 years, so have been fully brainwashed

I miss OldCold as well

[swooshboy]

You reckon the ol' Swoosh Maestro's will ever bid for a Liverpool deal?

Maybe - think someone here said that your deal was up in 2 years. I was sure they would extend the United deal - they have enough money to very easily pay for the full deal in cash.

I don't know if they are looking to change their approach - they have gone from having United, City, Arsenal and Everton, to just City (not sure who Everton are with to be honest). I don't know if they feel CIty is enough, or whether they think Liverpool and City would be a god combination?

Or it could be that they feel they are unlikely to have the same level of success with United going forward as they have done over the past 13 or so years they have had the kit deal - which is understandable!

[Brian Blessed]

Everton are Umbro. Which are owned by Nike, explaining the quick change I suppose.

[sinnermichael]

Louis van Gaal will be Juan Mata's 9th manager in the past 3 years. (Emery, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Moyes, Giggs, Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal and Del Bosque).

[swooshboy]

Everton are Umbro. Which are owned by Nike, explaining the quick change I suppose.

Nike don't own Umbro anymore - they sold them a couple of years ago.

[swooshboy]

Louis van Gaal will be Juan Mata's 9th manager in the past 3 years. (Emery, AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho, Moyes, Giggs, Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal and Del Bosque).

Why do manager's names get auto-spelt out in full?

[Durlmints]

Why do manager's names get auto-spelt out in full?

It's only if you type the L V G acronym.

Same with A V B

[Brian Blessed]

It's only if you type the L V G acronym.

Same with A V B

AVB is fine now.

Nike don't own Umbro anymore - they sold them a couple of years ago.

Oh, I missed that one. How ling did Nike have Everton, was it just one year?

[Durlmints]

AVB is fine now.

That's a shame! It was certainly a better auto-correct than the Van Gaal one!

[swooshboy]

AVB is fine now.
Oh, I missed that one. How ling did Nike have Everton, was it just one year?

5 years (according to Wiki!).

Long enough for them to scavenge the England and Man City deals...

[swooshboy]

It's only if you type the L V G acronym.

Same with A V B

Cheers!

[Brian Blessed]

5 years (according to Wiki!).

Long enough for them to scavenge the England and Man City deals...

Jesus, time flies.

[redhokie8]

Honestly how are people expecting United to do next season? Obviously it's difficult to say because they look like they'll probably bring in a few more players. They need to sort out their defense, and Van Persie isn't getting any younger. I think they'll improve quite a  bit from last season. More than likely there will be some growing pains. I don't see them winning the league, but I think it'll be between them, us, Chelsea, Arsenal, and City vying for those top four places.

[RK7]

£750m ten-year kit deal is just staggering with the situation they are in right now!

There situation is hardly that bad, they have got rid of the reason for their demise and brought in a top manager. They are also targeting top players.

It's all about making the right noises, had they accepted their fate, reduced their spending and drawn out a 5 year plan of buying potential and pinning their hopes on them coming good then they would suffer.

I predict they will go close to winning the title next year if they get in the players they want.

[Craig S]

5 years (according to Wiki!).

Long enough for them to scavenge the England and Man City deals...

How long did Nike have Everton, not Umbro. Think Everton was 2 years only because of Nike buying Umbro.

Did you work in Hilversum?

[Cantona]

Man U shirts probably outsell Chelsea, arsenal and city combined, so I'm sure adidas won't think it's such a risky investment

Not quite, but more than Liverpool and City combined.

Granted they sell more shirts than we do.

But not 3-4 times as much.

For  75M  figure there needs to be more in it other than kits.

The prestige of sponsoring the biggest club in the world's most popular league.

Lol at the Mancs bragging about shirts. Mid table wankers.)

Lol at the jealousy of United's record breaking kit deal when we've just had our worst season since you last won the league. 

[RedSince86]

So any muscle injuries to report of seeing as giggs is in charge at carrington and doing double sessions while van gaal is busy.

[swooshboy]

Honestly how are people expecting United to do next season? Obviously it's difficult to say because they look like they'll probably bring in a few more players. They need to sort out their defense, and Van Persie isn't getting any younger. I think they'll improve quite a  bit from last season. More than likely there will be some growing pains. I don't see them winning the league, but I think it'll be between them, us, Chelsea, Arsenal, and City vying for those top four places.

I expect us to be top 4. Obviously we won't have Europe to worry about this year - I think that helped you last season by only having to focus on the league, so I suppose it could have a similar benefit for us.

We have addressed 2 glaring needs in our squad, with Herrera and Shaw, although I don't think we are done spending yet. I would love to see Vidal, but no idea how likely that is (my instinct says not so!). Has been a long time since we have had a competitive midfield, so v good to see us improving in that area.

I guess my biggest reason for optimism is van Gaal. The only thing more disappointing then where we finished in the league last season was the manner in which we got there - dull, listless performances. I am not expecting van Gall to work his magic overnight, but I am expecting him to have a vision of how he wants the team to play, and to be able to motivate/get the players to play that way.

[swooshboy]

How long did Nike have Everton, not Umbro. Think Everton was 2 years only because of Nike buying Umbro.

Did you work in Hilversum?

Think it was 2 years - can't have been much longer.

I did indeed - worked for Nike in the UK, and then in Hilversum also. Do you know Hilversum?

[Craig S]

Think it was 2 years - can't have been much longer.

I did indeed - worked for Nike in the UK, and then in Hilversum also. Do you know Hilversum?

My fiancee worked for Nike Football (I think Man Utd, Arsenal, Dortmund, Inter were her teams), then pro Sports on cycling and England Rugby. I know quite a few people that have worked there and some that still work there (mainly ex-pats).

[Dave D]

Nike want out because the mancs are clearly on a downward curve. A few more seasons of mediocrity and they'll be on half a million shirts sales a year if they're lucky.

[TheRevanchist]

Granted they sell more shirts than we do.

But not 3-4 times as much.

For  75M  figure there needs to be more in it other than kits.

We sell almost twice as many shirts as yiu (1.4m compared to 800k), we also have way more fans around the world. And we have also been much more succesful on recent times. So - like it or not - we are getting 3 times as much money than you from kit sponsor 

[TheRevanchist]

Nike want out because the mancs are clearly on a downward curve. A few more seasons of mediocrity and they'll be on half a million shirts sales a year if they're lucky.

Considering that you have had 2 decades of mediocrity and still sell around 800k kits, I am sure that there is no chance at all that we'll be on half a million shirts for year.

[bigbear]

We sell almost twice as many shirts as yiu (1.4m compared to 800k), we also have way more fans around the world. And we have also been much more succesful on recent times. So - like it or not - we are getting 3 times more money than you from kit sponsor 

You need that to make up for the lack of European football, TV revenues, prize monies and general interest in the sinking ship that you have become.