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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1960 on: February 18, 2018, 11:58:48 am »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1961 on: February 18, 2018, 12:00:47 pm »
Karius is below average. Sell Beat him.


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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1963 on: February 18, 2018, 12:11:26 pm »

But when being objective it's clear we can't afford to be paying world record fees for centre backs



Well clearly we can, because we just did!
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1964 on: February 18, 2018, 12:37:02 pm »
Well clearly we can, because we just did!

One way to look at it might be that because we've essentially spent little to no money on CB's in the last 4 years (last outlay of note was on Lovren in 2014) (or money on our defense overall) - that we can afford the outlay for VvD. Matip was "free" and Klavan was 4-5m?

Heck we've essentially spent nothing on the back line since that time so maybe that's a factor too.

2014 - Lovren - ~20m
2015 - Clyne - 12.5m
2015 - Gomez - 3.5m
2016- Matip + Klavan - 4-5m
2017 - VvD - 75m; Robertson 8m

2017 - SOLD - Sakho - 25m, Wisdom ~3m?

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1965 on: February 18, 2018, 01:04:30 pm »
One way to look at it might be that because we've essentially spent little to no money on CB's in the last 4 years (last outlay of note was on Lovren in 2014) (or money on our defense overall) - that we can afford the outlay for VvD. Matip was "free" and Klavan was 4-5m?

Heck we've essentially spent nothing on the back line since that time so maybe that's a factor too.

2014 - Lovren - ~20m
2015 - Clyne - 12.5m
2015 - Gomez - 3.5m
2016- Matip + Klavan - 4-5m
2017 - VvD - 75m; Robertson 8m

2017 - SOLD - Sakho - 25m, Wisdom ~3m?

Last 5 seasons should look more like:

2013/14 - Sakho, Illori - 25m
2014/15 - Lovren, Moreno, Manquillo - 40m
2015/16 - Clyne, Gomez, Caulker - 20m
2016/17 - Klavan, Matip - 5m
2017/18 - VVD, Robertson, Gallacher - 80m

So we've spent about 170m on our defence over 5 seasons. But its massively inflated by VVD's transfer fee. Otherwise we've spent 100m over 5 seasons.

In comparison to our rivals
Man City : 335m over 5 seasons (they have spent 200m this season alone on defenders)
Spurs : 145m over 5 seasons
Man Utd: 165m over 5 seasons
Chelsea: 200m over 5 seasons
Arsenal: 100m over 5 seasons

Not surprisingly, all of our rivals have spent a lot more, and conceded far few goals (in the low to mid 20s). We've spent on par with Arsenal in terms of our defence, and we've conceded in a similar ballpark, the number of goals (in the low 30s). Not saying that money spent will prevent goals - as Man Utd have conceded 1 less than Man City even though they've only spent half as much over time. 

We're finally approaching a situation where our first choice back 4 is actually half decent. I still think there's room to improve even further with a bit more decent scouting and investment.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1966 on: February 18, 2018, 01:05:29 pm »
Mode?

Has this taken Pickford's short arms into account?

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1967 on: February 18, 2018, 03:53:33 pm »
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1968 on: February 18, 2018, 05:47:39 pm »
I like to think he politely disagreed whilst showing her stats that proved his case.
On another note, he seems surprisingly available on RAWK today. ;D

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1971 on: February 18, 2018, 11:22:14 pm »
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Does anyone know why Van Dijk has played all that much for his national team?
Would have thought he would be a nailed on starter over the latter few years.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1972 on: February 19, 2018, 11:48:22 pm »
Was a picture in the Daily Fail of Dieting Virgil at the hotel at the buffet staring at his half full plate of greens you could tell he was reconsidering this professional footballer thing.  ;D
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1974 on: February 20, 2018, 10:53:00 pm »
thread title is out of date.  just letting everyone know, but don't thank me.  fuckin' teamwork.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1975 on: February 25, 2018, 12:58:16 am »
I thought Big Virg was solid again. He is now the foundation of our defence. Wins everything in the air. Very good distribution. Worth every penny. He makes us better
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1976 on: February 25, 2018, 01:02:30 am »
I thought Big Virg was solid again. He is now the foundation of our defence. Wins everything in the air. Very good distribution. Worth every penny. He makes us better
After an early mistake he was imperious again.

My favourite moment of his though was when Emre scored and for a good 2 or 3 seconds Virgil had no idea what had happened.  ;D
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1977 on: February 25, 2018, 03:52:35 am »
He almost stopped the goal too - he had 3-4 yards to make up and slid in just a touch late. Good recovery speed.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1978 on: February 25, 2018, 04:56:09 am »
He almost stopped the goal too - he had 3-4 yards to make up and slid in just a touch late. Good recovery speed.

He's a bit like Usain Bolt, in that he looks like he's strolling when he's actually travelling really quickly, his slow turnover speed in his stride is made up for by his massive stride length.

Probably useful for avoiding injuries, though I'm not sure how the trade-off between muscle length and explosive force works out in that regard, I just notice fast twitch players tend to pick up a lot of hamstring issues.

And he's such a good player, there was a point where he was defending a break 1 v 1 in the first half, it was a dangerous situation and most defenders would have done something rash, Van Dijk just positioned calmly and slowed the play down until we got players back to clean up, really impressive.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1979 on: February 25, 2018, 05:03:35 am »
He almost stopped the goal too - he had 3-4 yards to make up and slid in just a touch late. Good recovery speed.
Agree. Another 2 seconds, he would have snuffed out the threat. Can losing the ball to Kouyate essentially took out several of our defenders
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1980 on: February 25, 2018, 05:42:50 am »
Agree. Another 2 seconds, he would have snuffed out the threat. Can losing the ball to Kouyate essentially took out several of our defenders

noticed that as well. milner slipped at the exact moment ball was lost and Robbo was already bombing forward anticipating an attack.

already looking like he have played seasons here this vvd fella. cool and calm. does the defending thing without much fuss.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1981 on: February 25, 2018, 05:45:59 am »
already looking like he have played seasons here this vvd fella. cool and calm. does the defending thing without much fuss.
His range of passing helped keep their back line honest, too. Same for Matip, for that matter, the two of them were vital in keeping West Ham pinned back in the first half, and then exploiting the spaces they left when they tried to open up.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1982 on: February 25, 2018, 07:39:29 am »
He fills me with confidence. He fills the team with confidence as well. Mane holding his head, when VVD fell in that air duel, thinking "oh fuck hope he's not injured" says how much the team appreciates him.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1983 on: February 25, 2018, 07:57:01 am »
Best CB around..

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1984 on: February 25, 2018, 10:04:36 am »
I think Can scores that goal because their entire defence was worried about VVD and it was clever from Can to stand just behind him. We should score a good few set-piece goals till the end of the season using him this way as a decoy.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1985 on: February 25, 2018, 10:10:25 am »
Brilliant player - its like watching Hyypia with pace

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1986 on: February 25, 2018, 10:15:05 am »
Was a bit worried when he took an elbow and went to ground.

Then I remembered...

Virgil Van Dijk doesn't go to ground. The ground goes to Virgil Van Dijk.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1987 on: February 25, 2018, 12:19:59 pm »
Imagine what he'll be like with a proper pre season under his belt.  He's still bedding in!
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« Reply #1988 on: February 25, 2018, 12:59:36 pm »
For years we've tried filling the team with leaders who don't quite have the technical ability to match. Finally we have a player here whose footballing ability matches his indispensable leadership skills. Love it. A calming presence that was sorely needed in our defence. He makes everything look easy and his recovery speed is second to none.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1989 on: February 26, 2018, 04:39:13 pm »
It may have been mentioned, but one of my favorite parts to his game is his heading of the ball to teammates. This occurs even when he is under pressure which has always been a pet peeve of mine with many of our defenders.  From Lovren to Skrtel to Carragher, the "head it straight back" mentality has always bothered me and highlighted the pedestran part of their game.

The ability to identify where players are on the pitch before heading a ball and then being able to calmly head it to an open teammate, thereby maintaining posession, is an underated and valuable skill for a defender.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1990 on: February 26, 2018, 05:27:30 pm »
For me its not his individual performances that I have totally been impressed about, but his overall leadership. That is worth 10X as much as his actual performances.

You see him all the time barking out orders and making sure everyone is concentrated. We have been missing someone like that in the defence since jamie left.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1991 on: February 26, 2018, 05:45:38 pm »
VVD has more key passes and more shots per game than Wijnaldam !!!!!!
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1992 on: February 26, 2018, 06:53:20 pm »
I have never seen a defender play so effectively while playing so casually.

He makes Hyppia look like Skrtel on cocaine.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1993 on: February 26, 2018, 06:54:10 pm »
It may have been mentioned, but one of my favorite parts to his game is his heading of the ball to teammates. This occurs even when he is under pressure which has always been a pet peeve of mine with many of our defenders.  From Lovren to Skrtel to Carragher, the "head it straight back" mentality has always bothered me and highlighted the pedestran part of their game.

The ability to identify where players are on the pitch before heading a ball and then being able to calmly head it to an open teammate, thereby maintaining posession, is an underated and valuable skill for a defender.

Me too!

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1994 on: February 26, 2018, 07:10:44 pm »
He’s settling in quite well isn’t he?
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1995 on: February 26, 2018, 10:25:54 pm »
Me too!

When Virgil Van Dijk jumps up for a header, he doesn't push away from the earth, he pushes the earth away from him!

Wow, he really needs to lose some weight that fatass...

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1996 on: February 27, 2018, 12:02:06 am »
I have never seen a defender play so effectively while playing so casually.

He makes Hyppia look like Skrtel on cocaine.

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1997 on: February 27, 2018, 12:03:41 am »
Hansen?

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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1998 on: February 27, 2018, 12:48:09 am »
The teams gonna morph now,you see that foot on the ball against the hammers at 3-1? We are going to/have added the game management arrow which is utterly massive. Putting all 3 cbs out there-master stroke thats f-in strong, man. Strong!

Virgil changes everything team looks way better now at the back and even overall team d, with bright prospects for further improvement up to maybe a pretty damn good level.
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Re: Virgil Van Dijk signs for Liverpool (The Fat-Ass Blubberman!)
« Reply #1999 on: February 27, 2018, 05:09:29 am »
The teams gonna morph now,you see that foot on the ball against the hammers at 3-1? We are going to/have added the game management arrow which is utterly massive. Putting all 3 cbs out there-master stroke thats f-in strong, man. Strong!

Virgil changes everything team looks way better now at the back and even overall team d, with bright prospects for further improvement up to maybe a pretty damn good level.

He could be as important to Klopp as Mackay was to Derby County when they signed him - someone to calm the backs down, put a foot on the ball, and get it out of defence and into midfield as efficiently as possible.
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