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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15680 on: May 22, 2023, 07:57:27 pm »
That was always the issue. I don’t want to speculate on why people would think that but watching Naby at Leipzig it was clear even then they were completely different types of players.

Interesting. Injuries have been a significant factor. Wonder also if psychologically, it was also challenging for him. Signed as what appeared to be a box to box midfielder. By the time he arrived our shape had changed and that role was less significant given Robbo and TAA. Then, whenever there was a question over our ‘new’ midfield three and a very early sub needed (eg. half time) Keita was generally sacrificed. Does it get you questioning your value at all?

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« Reply #15681 on: May 22, 2023, 08:22:05 pm »
I (we) probably expected too much of him after the numerous video montages following his signing. He wasn’t as good as his highlight reel - who is? - but his injury record is abysmal. Good luck Naby lad, hope you can stay fit more often and win a few more trophies elsewhere

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15682 on: May 22, 2023, 08:27:04 pm »
My abiding memory of Keita will be the cup semi vs City last year where he absolutely ran the show and was our best player, looking exactly like what we'd thought he was all along.

Alas, it wasn't to be.

Good luck to him, football is so very circumstantial at times and his always seems to work against him.  If that volley in Paris is caught right and goes in, maybe everything's different.  Alas, he aimed for Hollywood and hit Blackpool.  In some ways that summed up his time here.
I don't agree, he'd go to Legoland. Bye.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15683 on: May 22, 2023, 11:06:31 pm »
My abiding memory of Keita will be the cup semi vs City last year where he absolutely ran the show and was our best player, looking exactly like what we'd thought he was all along.

that was a truly world-class midfield performance.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15684 on: May 23, 2023, 01:35:03 pm »
It's weird the animosity towards this guy, seems he gets judged on one curve and Ox gets judged on another - both potentially great players who had their top level careers effectively ruined by injuries, it's hardly either of their faults.

Ox had his Liverpool career ruined by a catastrophic knee injury that we all witnessed. Keita missed days of training because he hurt his neck sitting on an airplane.

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« Reply #15685 on: May 23, 2023, 01:37:40 pm »
I honestly think people go over the top with the ‘dissapointment’ angle now. Disappointing was all those players signed in the years before who achieved so very little. Disappointing  was buying players like Balloteli and Benteke who we knew even before they signed, they where not what the team needed. Disappointing was wasting so much on Andy Carroll in a moment of blind panic, because we couldn’t keep our best players. With Naby, the only diassapointing part was him being injured, but it came at a time when the club won everything and yes, he actually did contribute to that, as much as some want to deny, sure not as much as was hoped, but he did contribute. And we did all this at a time and in a league that is hard to do it in considering the uneven playing field.

Wish him well in the next stage of his career basically, no idea why it’s such a thing that STILL bothers some so much!


Why do you even care if people are disappointed in him, its a subjective view and for a lot of people, that view is justified. Considering the hype, his insane ability and price, he has been underwhelming and I'm sure even he would agree its not worked out. Your right is to hold whatever views you have of him, but others have the right to express their disapointment.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15686 on: May 23, 2023, 03:57:50 pm »
Is that all there is?....is that all there is??.....if that's all there is to Naby Keita then lets keep scouting....
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« Reply #15687 on: May 24, 2023, 01:30:05 pm »
I honestly think people go over the top with the ‘dissapointment’ angle now. Disappointing was all those players signed in the years before who achieved so very little. Disappointing  was buying players like Balloteli and Benteke who we knew even before they signed, they where not what the team needed. Disappointing was wasting so much on Andy Carroll in a moment of blind panic, because we couldn’t keep our best players. With Naby, the only diassapointing part was him being injured, but it came at a time when the club won everything and yes, he actually did contribute to that, as much as some want to deny, sure not as much as was hoped, but he did contribute. And we did all this at a time and in a league that is hard to do it in considering the uneven playing field.

Wish him well in the next stage of his career basically, no idea why it’s such a thing that STILL bothers some so much!

I think they are different types of disappointment. In the case of Carrolls, Balotelli's and Benteke's, it was disappointing because we were expecting the club to do good transfer business to strengthen and give the manager tools to compete, but instead got players that we knew wouldn't cut the mustard. In the case of Naby, the disappointment came from expectations that he was a top class midfielder, one that we had to sign a whole season before he started playing for us, and at the end of it there was a sense that he didn't fulfil his potential or live up to the expectations.

He's still a very good player and is more than capable of continuing to play at a very good level for many clubs that will be very fortunate to have him. It's hard to not to feel that his is a cautionary tale of not over hyping players too much. Far better to underpromise and overdeliver. Our low key signings are often some of our best players.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15688 on: May 24, 2023, 10:39:58 pm »
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15691 on: May 25, 2023, 05:58:50 pm »
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It was supposed to be a major transfer coup for Liverpool.

Bayern Munich and Barcelona were interested in signing Naby Keita from RB Leipzig after an impressive 2016-17 Bundesliga season in which he’d scored eight goals and contributed eight assists in 31 league appearances.
Liverpool had two bids rejected in the summer of 2017 before then-sporting director Michael Edwards outflanked his rivals by agreeing a deal whereby Keita would stay at Leipzig for a further 12 months.

The fee of £52.75million ($65.3m), then a club record, meant that Liverpool were effectively paying a premium on top of the £48m release clause in his contract which could be triggered in 2018.

Jurgen Klopp described him as “the complete midfielder” and believed he had the perfect skill set to flourish at Anfield. The season-long wait for him only heightened the sense of expectation among excited supporters.
When he finally arrived at Melwood in July 2018, Keita was greeted by former captain Steven Gerrard, who presented him with the No 8 shirt that he had selected. No one had worn that jersey since Gerrard’s exit three years earlier.

Five years on, Keita is about to hand back that shirt after an underwhelming stint on Merseyside that will ultimately be remembered as a story of potential unfulfilled.

At the age of 28, he should be entering his prime. Instead, the fourth most expensive signing in the club’s history is preparing to leave as a free agent as Liverpool look to rebuild their midfield this summer.

Few players in Liverpool’s modern era have polarised opinions quite like Keita. Was he dogged by misfortune or just not up to scratch? The Athletic has spoken to a variety of people around the club to build a picture of what went wrong, and why.

The first thing to say is that there is plenty of sympathy at Liverpool for the catalogue of injury setbacks that blighted Keita’s time on Merseyside.
There were many occasions when the midfielder looked ready to burst into life, only for another fitness issue to derail him. Rhythm was lost, momentum stalled, morale sapped.

Players have different pain thresholds. On his Champions League debut for the club in October 2018, Keita was taken off on a stretcher after a collision with Napoli’s Jose Callejon and spent the night in Naples’ Cardarelli hospital.
Initially, there were fears he had suffered spinal damage, such was the level of discomfort he was in. However, after a series of scans, he was given the all-clear and returned to Liverpool by private jet. Three days later, he played against Manchester City.

His lack of durability was an unwelcome surprise given the fact that he had featured in 58 out of 68 Bundesliga matches during his two seasons at Leipzig. Six of the 10 games he missed were due to suspension.
Why the dramatic change? Staff point to the challenge of adjusting to greater intensity and physicality than he was used to both in training and matches — something Keita admitted himself he struggled with.
Liverpool left no stone unturned. Yoga, dietary changes and tweaking his training plan all had some impact on trying to reduce his soft-tissue muscle problems. Andreas Schlumberger, the club’s head of recovery and performance, worked closely with Keita following the former’s arrival from Schalke midway through the 2020-21 season.

Injury issues kept him sidelined for longer than had initially been anticipated. There was a sense that so many setbacks damaged his confidence to really push himself.

Last season, the Guinea international clocked up 40 appearances in all competitions having only managed 33 in 2018-19, 27 in 2019-20 and 16 in 2020-21. However, this term he’s been limited to just 13 outings (and just three starts in the Premier League).

In total, Liverpool have played 277 competitive matches since Keita arrived and he’s featured in just 129 of them (47 per cent).

“Naby lad”, as he’s affectionately known by his Liverpool team-mates, has been a popular figure in the dressing room. He’s been known to dance after cherished victories and play practical jokes (hiding players’ possessions is one of his trademarks). His closest friend in the squad was Sadio Mane, and his departure to Bayern Munich last summer probably did not help him this term.

Youngsters who were promoted to train with the first-team squad would often rave about Keita’s technical ability to academy staff and team-mates when they returned to their age group.
But it certainly took a long time for Keita — a shy, laidback character — to come out of his shell at Liverpool with the language barrier a recurring problem.

In early 2020, Mane was having breakfast with Keita at Melwood when one of the staff came over to inform the midfielder they were going to step up his rehab that morning with a light jog around the training field. Much to Mane’s amusement, Keita replied: “Yeah, yeah, I like eggs.”
There was another occasion when medical staff were chasing up scan results only to learn that he hadn’t been scanned at all after misunderstanding the instructions he had been given. A staff member returned to the private hospital with him.

Keita based himself in a house in Formby, around 13 miles from Liverpool, but later also acquired a city centre apartment. He certainly found it difficult to settle on Merseyside after arriving with his younger brother Petit, who effectively looked after his older sibling. However, there’s a sense that he could have been more proactive in terms of making that process easier, especially when it came to learning English.

That also had an impact on understanding what Klopp and Pep Lijnders demanded from him tactically. At his best, he gave the midfield a welcome injection of energy and dynamism as he broke lines and provided creativity (he did, after all, score Liverpool’s fastest goal of the Premier League era, netting after just 15 seconds against Huddersfield Town in April 2019). His athleticism and ability to press and force mistakes impressed staff, but at times his work off the ball in tracking runners and blocking passing lanes was a weakness.

Getting picked for the first leg of the 2019 Champions League semi-final away to Barcelona was a sign of his progress but he limped off with a torn adductor and missed the heroic second-leg fightback and the final triumph over Tottenham.

The following season, he scored in the Club World Cup semi-final win over Monterrey and started the final victory over Flamengo but once again his joy was shortlived as he suffered a groin strain soon after. He only started nine matches in the Premier League title-winning campaign.

Keita suggested nobody had “seen the real Naby Keita just yet” towards the end of last season and, for all his hugely impressive medal haul of Champions League, UEFA Super Cup, Club World Cup, Premier League, League Cup and FA Cup, there is a sense among many Liverpool fans that nobody knows what the real Naby Keita really looks like.

There were discussions a year ago about the possibility of a contract extension, but they never progressed. As his role dwindled, it became increasingly clear that a parting of the ways would be best for all parties. There was no offer on the table. His future is unclear but a return to the Bundesliga, where he’s still widely admired, is viewed as the most likely next step.

With the jury still out on Darwin Nunez, Keita is the only big-money signing of the Klopp era who hasn’t given Liverpool a hefty return on their investment.

Analysing the football
To fully grasp the frustration of Naby Keita’s Liverpool career, we need to examine two matches at Crystal Palace which bookended his career at the club.

The first came in August 2018, a match which offered a snapshot of all the good things that the Guinea international had to offer, and helped explain why Liverpool had spent so heavily on him.

Liverpool won the game 2-0 and Keita was at the heart of everything they did well. He controlled the tempo, was dynamic with his dribbling and progressive with his passing: just look at how many of his passes in the map below are forwards and in the Palace half…

One moment stood out in particular. Receiving the ball from goalkeeper Alisson facing his own goal, and with Andros Townsend closing him down, Keita nonchalantly flicked the ball past the midfielder to open the game up.
He drove into the space in front of him before delivering a pinpoint pass over the top to Mohamed Salah, who — very unlike him — could not apply the finish.

It was so easy, so effortless it was impossible not to get excited, especially as it followed his excellent debut in a 4-0 victory over West Ham to open the 2018-19 campaign.

Fast forward four and a half years, another trip to Selhurst Park offered sober confirmation of how far Keita’s star had fallen at Liverpool. There was little to recommend Liverpool’s performance in a 0-0 draw in south London, but Keita was arguably the worst of the bunch: he lost multiple duels, earned a yellow card for a desperate foul and was substituted at half-time by Klopp.

Comparing his passing that night to what he had delivered at Palace in 2018 is instructive…

Even allowing for the fact that he played half the number of the total possible minutes in January, Keita produced a third fewer passes and had retreated into deeper, ‘safer’ areas, meaning he was far less progressive with the passes he did make.

Watching those games feels like witnessing two different players. The question is, what happened?

There can be no doubt that injury problems played their part. The wear and tear of repeated muscle injuries add up and the spring and spark in those early performances have been difficult to replicate consistently: he has missed around 800 days at Liverpool due to injuries, according to data collated by premierinjuries.com.

It should be said that, statistically, Liverpool were a better team with him in it.

Keita's record with Liverpool
KEITA STARTING      KEITA NOT STARTING
77
Games
200
55
Wins
124
13
Draws
40
9
Losses
36
2.2
Avg. goals for
2.02
0.9
Avg. goals against
0.97
71.4%
Win %
62%

There are, of course, caveats. He was absent from the starting XI in nearly three times as many games while the difference in goals scored and conceded is minimal. Liverpool have been one of the most successful and dominant teams during Keita’s four years and it is tough to argue his absences were ever the key reason Liverpool’s results suffered.

When Keita’s signing was first mooted, Liverpool thought they were getting a box-to-box, all-action midfielder who suited the high-intensity, chaotic, gegenpressing style Klopp was fine-tuning. But by the time he arrived, the team was transitioning to one looking to control games and dominate possession while complementing that with counter-pressing.

There were highlights. He started both games in Liverpool’s Club World Cup success and features in some of the club’s biggest and best wins under Klopp, such as the 4-0 victory over Leicester in 2019-20 and the 7-0 demolition of Crystal Palace in 2020-21.

He also scored the opener and provided an assist for Mohamed Salah in the 5-0 destruction of Manchester United at Old Trafford in 2021-22. However, his afternoon ended prematurely — not for the first time — through injury via a Paul Pogba challenge.

More recently, he started in both EFL and FA Cup finals as Liverpool completed the domestic double. His availability improved, too. He made 40 appearances and was named in 47 matchday squads out of 63 last season; this season, however, he has made just 13 appearances all season, and just eight in the league.

Keita’s ability has never been in question. His 2021-22 scouting report on fbref, the football statistics website, shows a sea of green suggesting he was consistently above average in most metrics across the board. On form, he could carry the ball, pick a pass, block lanes and spot runs like few others.
His problem was a lack of pace and physicality, which in turn meant Klopp probably felt he could never quite rely on him for sustained periods. And when he was bad, he was very bad: Keita remains one of only two players to have been tactically substituted before half-time by Klopp (in the 3-1 Champions League quarter-final defeat to Real Madrid in 2021 – Dejan Lovren was the other, at Tottenham in 2017) and he was also hauled off at half-time in both that goalless draw at Palace and the 7-2 defeat to Aston Villa. He was far from the only problem in those games, but still found himself being sacrificed by Klopp.

The game that arguably defines his Liverpool career is his 45-minute display against Atletico Madrid in the 2021-22 Champions League group stage. After a bright start where Keita repeatedly disrupted Atletico, he scored a superb volley. However, he was dribbled past too easily in the build-up to both of Atletico’s goals before being taken off at half-time.

The biggest frustration lies with what might have been. Opportunities have slipped past — such as in the 2020-21 season when Klopp was forced to convert midfielders to centre-backs, or this term when he was never touted as a solution to Liverpool’s much-analysed midfield crisis. Youngsters such as Harvey Elliott, Curtis Jones and Stefan Bajcetic stepped up instead.
At 28, he should be approaching his peak and central to the new era of Liverpool’s midfield. It’s a tale of what might have been. He will not be the only one harbouring a sense of regret.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15692 on: May 25, 2023, 06:53:27 pm »
here ya go ....

Thanks for that.

I was at Selhurst Park for that game he mentions. The one in 2018. Keita was superb. I've wondered many times - including on here - why that remains the best game he's played for Liverpool. At the time Fabinho, the other big signing, could not get a game for the Reds. Look what's happened to them since.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15693 on: May 25, 2023, 07:04:50 pm »
Shit I forgot we bought him a season before he arrived, I hope we don’t fall for that trick again in future.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15694 on: May 26, 2023, 09:43:11 am »
Thanks for that.

I was at Selhurst Park for that game he mentions. The one in 2018. Keita was superb. I've wondered many times - including on here - why that remains the best game he's played for Liverpool. At the time Fabinho, the other big signing, could not get a game for the Reds. Look what's happened to them since.

It isn't. He was absolutely brilliant in the FA cup semi against City last year. And he was very good in the 5-0 against Utd.

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« Reply #15695 on: May 26, 2023, 09:49:07 am »
It isn't. He was absolutely brilliant in the FA cup semi against City last year. And he was very good in the 5-0 against Utd.

He was excellent against Manch City, that's true. He was very good against Man United when we were cruising, and even better when we went 5-0 ahead at Palace that time.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15696 on: May 26, 2023, 09:50:45 am »
Thanks for that.

I was at Selhurst Park for that game he mentions. The one in 2018. Keita was superb. I've wondered many times - including on here - why that remains the best game he's played for Liverpool. At the time Fabinho, the other big signing, could not get a game for the Reds. Look what's happened to them since.
He was very good against Burnley. Played like the Leipzig Keita in that game. That's one of the few games where he played and dominated like he used to.

https://youtu.be/saCCEE9wHOg

He won't be a big miss anyway. Only played 25% of his available league minutes and was taken out in 2021 and this year when we were in dire need of midfielderd.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15697 on: May 28, 2023, 03:45:13 pm »
If that's not a good riddance then I don't know what is.

Unless he is injured yet again, in which case it's a fitting end to his time at Liverpool.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15698 on: May 28, 2023, 03:45:44 pm »
If that's not a good riddance then I don't what is.

Unless he is injured yet again, in which case it's a fitting end to his time at Liverpool.

He's got an unspecified muscle injury apparently. Read into that what you will.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15699 on: May 28, 2023, 04:38:22 pm »
He was very good against Burnley. Played like the Leipzig Keita in that game. That's one of the few games where he played and dominated like he used to.

https://youtu.be/saCCEE9wHOg

He won't be a big miss anyway. Only played 25% of his available league minutes and was taken out in 2021 and this year when we were in dire need of midfielderd.
Wow somehow I has totally forgotten about this game. He looks so much faster in that game compared to him in the later seasons. Maybe the injuries do rob his mobility off him.

The thing is midfielders are unlike strikers. For strikers you can have purple patches when every ball falls into your feet and every shots you take ends up as a goal, then suddenly when luck runs out you become average again. For midfielders, what you see is what you get. You don't run past their entire midfield one day and the other day suddenly lose that ability to carry the ball. So it baffles me that he couldn't maintain this kind of performance. Injuries and ensuing psychological problems are the only explanation.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15700 on: May 28, 2023, 07:17:28 pm »
People are literally grasping to remember the games that this guy turned up in.

Good riddance. The manner in which he leaves the club sums him up. Seemingly had no interest in giving anything to the cause. Failed to carry out his role several times most notably away to real Madrid. Nice footballer but jesus christ
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15701 on: May 28, 2023, 07:48:26 pm »
Best of Luck to him where he ends up. Sucks he couldnt stay fit, was big in helping win some trophies

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15702 on: May 28, 2023, 08:02:47 pm »
Ultimately he was a disappointment in my view. There were bright spots and periods when it seemed like he’d settled but he could never consistently produce the goods. He still contributed to both the CL and league wins so I have.no ill will toward him and wish him the best.

It just didn’t quite work out, one of the few big money signings that hasn’t in recent times. I think he came with such a reputation as a transformative.midfielder once he didn’t make that sort of impact every single game add to that the injuries it just wasn’t to be. They can’t all work out, unfortunately in my view this one didn’t quite match our expectations
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15703 on: May 28, 2023, 09:42:55 pm »
Gutted it never worked out for him.  Every time he came back from injury I expected him to kick on and it just never happened. 

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15704 on: May 28, 2023, 09:47:29 pm »
It's disappointing because when he was fit , he had something none of our other midfielders had.  He could beat the press, dribble, shoot, spot a cute pass.  Just couldn't stay fit.  1000% behind him being jettisoned, but if he stays fit some club will get a player.

Just.a shame for all involved.


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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15705 on: May 28, 2023, 09:55:15 pm »
Best of Luck to him where he ends up. Sucks he couldnt stay fit, was big in helping win some trophies

Good post and said pretty much what I came in to say

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15706 on: May 28, 2023, 09:56:17 pm »
Best of Luck to him where he ends up. Sucks he couldnt stay fit, was big in helping win some trophies

Yep. Scored the first goal in the Club World Cup semi too.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15707 on: May 28, 2023, 10:13:31 pm »
People are literally grasping to remember the games that this guy turned up in.

Good riddance. The manner in which he leaves the club sums him up. Seemingly had no interest in giving anything to the cause. Failed to carry out his role several times most notably away to real Madrid. Nice footballer but jesus christ

Yep, definitely should have played through injury in a dead rubber game so he could wave goodbye to the Southampton fans.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15708 on: May 28, 2023, 10:37:04 pm »
I hope he manages to find some fitness in this next endeavour, and puts in some good performances for his next club. Hopefully a less intense pace at a weaker club will do his career some good.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15709 on: May 29, 2023, 02:15:35 am »
shame for Naby but possibly would be better in Spain, France where they dont believe in tackling, slower pace etc

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15710 on: May 29, 2023, 06:47:01 pm »
I think Naby is a classic, and painful, extreme example of how every transfer is a gamble.
 
up to a point it doesn't matter how a player plays / performs elsewhere, or how much analysis/scouting you do.

there are just so many intangibles involved, especially when a player is moving from abroad.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15711 on: May 30, 2023, 02:32:11 pm »
At his best, he lived up to the hype and the transfer fee. Alas, too few such games and lacked the will to play through injury. Of course, none of us really know what injuries he had, but I certainly recall games in which Suarez, Robertson, Henderson, and others played through while partly injured. Glad we cut our losses. Fitness is an underrated attribute in football players. What's the point of being world class if the manager doesn't know when he can rely on you.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15712 on: May 30, 2023, 03:08:55 pm »
At his best, he lived up to the hype and the transfer fee. Alas, too few such games and lacked the will to play through injury. Of course, none of us really know what injuries he had, but I certainly recall games in which Suarez, Robertson, Henderson, and others played through while partly injured. Glad we cut our losses. Fitness is an underrated attribute in football players. What's the point of being world class if the manager doesn't know when he can rely on you.

Not sure if fitness is underrated, Naby missed 4 games in two seasons at Leipzig, his robustness was one of his plus points.

Ultimately it's just shit luck for us and shit luck for him.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15713 on: May 30, 2023, 11:25:14 pm »
The club have put a compilation video of all of Keita's goals for us on Youtube, and he didn't half score some wonderful goals looking back. The volleys against Palace and Atletico, the screamer against Chelsea, the composure against Newcastle, the 1-2 against Bournemouth, the intelligent run against Monterrey. Just a small reminder that the talent was absolutely there, it was just a shame that we weren't able to consistently see it.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15714 on: May 30, 2023, 11:29:08 pm »
All the best Naby Lad.

Rarely have I been as excited by a new signing as I was with Naby.

Shame about the injuries etc and sad that things could have been so much better.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15715 on: May 31, 2023, 07:01:41 am »
Klopp’s midfield is (or was) about winning the ball and moving the ball on. So I wasn’t bothered about Keita’s role for Leipzig I knew he wouldn’t get that freedom here. So using the criteria of winning the ball and protecting the defence I didn’t have a problem with what Keita delivered on the pitch. My only problem with Keita was his availability and he simply wasn’t available for selection enough of the time.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15716 on: May 31, 2023, 03:59:17 pm »
Not sure if fitness is underrated, Naby missed 4 games in two seasons at Leipzig, his robustness was one of his plus points.

Ultimately it's just shit luck for us and shit luck for him.

Fair enough, but I didn't mean to say that we made a mistake signing a known injury-prone player. I meant he was pretty darn good when he played for us, but there wasn't much point when we couldn't plan with him in mind week to week. And you are right, luck does play a big part. Wijnaldum was fit as a fiddle with us, but suffered a serious injury at Roma.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15717 on: June 4, 2023, 12:37:16 pm »
If I had a Naby Keita watch, I would never wear it as it would constantly keep breaking

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15718 on: June 4, 2023, 12:47:36 pm »
Not sure if fitness is underrated, Naby missed 4 games in two seasons at Leipzig, his robustness was one of his plus points.

Ultimately it's just shit luck for us and shit luck for him.

That’s what it boiled down to………..bad luck. Nobody could have predicted it.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #15719 on: June 9, 2023, 12:24:46 pm »
Off to Werder Bremen it seems. I think that says it all about his level. Still, they've been a fun team this season, and Keita is certainly a fun player. Just not when he's playing for your team most of the time.