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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78960 on: April 26, 2024, 07:27:09 pm »

I wonder what Slot will do with the postion behind the striker ? he uses 4231, no ? it will be interesting to see if we will bring a new player for this postion or just use Gakpo or Harvey. I think we badly need a player with an eye for a killer pass.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78961 on: April 26, 2024, 07:39:18 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78962 on: April 26, 2024, 07:43:59 pm »
First Winger he wants.  ;D

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78963 on: April 26, 2024, 07:45:04 pm »
According to Mel Reddy, it was Amorim’s insistence on using three at the back that proved a problem.

shes made that up because it sounds vaguely plausible hasn't she

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« Reply #78964 on: April 26, 2024, 07:47:59 pm »
Keep up, Samie.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78965 on: April 26, 2024, 07:48:31 pm »
https://x.com/AnfieldSector/status/1783924911423037577

Yerse.

Fast, wide forwards who do goals. What an idea.

I like this player, so choosing to believe this link.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78967 on: April 26, 2024, 07:50:00 pm »
Yerse.

Fast, wide forwards who do goals. What an idea.

I like this player, so choosing to believe this link.

I do too, he's a little livewire.

No idea how his numbers would translate from the Championship back up to the PL, but Leeds's relegation has been kind to him.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78968 on: April 26, 2024, 07:52:07 pm »
I do too, he's a little livewire.

No idea how his numbers would translate from the Championship back up to the PL, but Leeds's relegation has been kind to him.

Yeah not sure how that can be taken into account from a data perspective to be honest. I go a few Leeds games with work, he’s really stood out this season.


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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78969 on: April 26, 2024, 07:52:49 pm »

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78970 on: April 26, 2024, 07:56:10 pm »
Yeah not sure how that can be taken into account from a data perspective to be honest. I go a few Leeds games with work, he’s really stood out this season.

Watkins, Bowen, Toney, Maddison and Benrahma are a few attackers off the top of my head from the Championship who took to the Prem with relative 'ease'. I use that term lightly as they all also got to acclimate at lesser clubs with less pressure and less of a spotlight.

But still, there's recent precedent that it can be done and it can be a good proving ground for maybe some more undervalued targets, at least when compared to Premier League attackers.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78971 on: April 26, 2024, 07:58:22 pm »
Guess we're hoping Leeds stay down there then. If he kicks up a fuss surely not loads Leeds can do about it.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78972 on: April 26, 2024, 08:26:00 pm »
Guess we're hoping Leeds stay down there then. If he kicks up a fuss surely not loads Leeds can do about it.

Looking a bit likely, although still the playoffs.

On that graph above - Fatawu looks a player for Leicester. Think we were linked a couple of years back, he's on loan from Sporting but they have an option to buy.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78973 on: April 26, 2024, 08:29:01 pm »
Watkins, Bowen, Toney, Maddison and Benrahma are a few attackers off the top of my head from the Championship who took to the Prem with relative 'ease'. I use that term lightly as they all also got to acclimate at lesser clubs with less pressure and less of a spotlight.

But still, there's recent precedent that it can be done and it can be a good proving ground for maybe some more undervalued targets, at least when compared to Premier League attackers.

Fair, Olise and Eze too but as you say, this club isn’t a finishing school so can he make that step up directly.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78974 on: April 26, 2024, 08:31:38 pm »
Watkins, Bowen, Toney, Maddison and Benrahma are a few attackers off the top of my head from the Championship who took to the Prem with relative 'ease'. I use that term lightly as they all also got to acclimate at lesser clubs with less pressure and less of a spotlight.

But still, there's recent precedent that it can be done and it can be a good proving ground for maybe some more undervalued targets, at least when compared to Premier League attackers.

Vardy too. But also maybe I am behind but I thought Benrahma was having a bit of a tough time

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« Reply #78975 on: April 26, 2024, 09:00:47 pm »
First Winger he wants.  ;D

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78976 on: April 26, 2024, 09:12:50 pm »
First Winger he wants.  ;D

Well it's not up to him we are not Man United.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78977 on: April 26, 2024, 09:23:51 pm »

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78978 on: April 26, 2024, 09:26:36 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78979 on: April 26, 2024, 10:20:29 pm »
According to Mel Reddy, it was Amorim’s insistence on using three at the back that proved a problem.
That doesnt shock me. There no reason with the current squad to take off an attacker or midfielder for a cb

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78980 on: April 26, 2024, 10:27:57 pm »
So chicken man saying we're after lutsharel geertruida?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78981 on: April 26, 2024, 11:40:02 pm »
If we do appoint Arne Slot and shop in the Eredivisie, I hope that Johan Bakayoko and Jorrel Hato are on our list ...

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78982 on: April 27, 2024, 12:09:34 am »
I just hope he doesn’t bring his players with him like ten Hag did.

I like the idea of Summerville. Pace and goals.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78983 on: April 27, 2024, 12:34:59 am »
I'd be very dissapointed if we were looking to sign from the Dutch league just cause we got a Dutch manager. That's small time stuff and I'd expect more from the people in charge.


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« Reply #78984 on: April 27, 2024, 12:36:22 am »
We should not say no to Bakayoko though. :P

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78985 on: April 27, 2024, 01:11:14 am »
I just hope he doesn’t bring his players with him like ten Hag did.

I like the idea of Summerville. Pace and goals.
Why? Pace goals don't count...
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« Reply #78986 on: April 27, 2024, 01:55:47 am »
I just hope he doesn’t bring his players with him like ten Hag did.

Don’t even get why this is a worry.

United are a shit show behind the scenes in terms of recruitment and manager management. We’re not.

It’s a lazy comparison simply because both are Dutch.

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« Reply #78987 on: April 27, 2024, 05:28:50 am »
Don’t even get why this is a worry.

United are a shit show behind the scenes in terms of recruitment and manager management. We’re not.

It’s a lazy comparison simply because both are Dutch.
Lots of managers do it. What ten Hag has realised is that trying to recreate what he did in the Dutch league with the same players isn’t as successful, because they struggle with the step up.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78988 on: April 27, 2024, 07:35:02 am »
So chicken man saying we're after lutsharel geertruida?

It’s a shit link but he does look good, was linked last summer to a fair few premiership clubs. He’s a right back though..

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« Reply #78989 on: April 27, 2024, 07:56:22 am »
Lots of managers do it. What ten Hag has realised is that trying to recreate what he did in the Dutch league with the same players isn’t as successful, because they struggle with the step up.

Ten Haag had zero structure above him to control that though.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78990 on: April 27, 2024, 08:18:16 am »
Summerville is miles off the level we need.

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« Reply #78991 on: April 27, 2024, 08:29:01 am »
Summerville is miles off the level we need.

No idea how much he would cost.
As a relativelly low-cost punt it wouldn't be bad to have some more pace and skill on the flanks.

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« Reply #78992 on: April 27, 2024, 08:31:56 am »
Summerville is miles off the level we need.

Why? He’s the best player in the championship, the same league Elliot excelled in before joining the first team squad.

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« Reply #78993 on: April 27, 2024, 08:36:13 am »
Yeah, if we’re buying players from Feyenoord/the Eredivisie it’s because the data team thinks they’re potentially elite. Ten Hag was completely different, recruitment at United was a mess and they let him pick a bunch of players he knew.

On Summerville, don’t know how anyone can say whether he is or isn’t at the required level. Has taken a huge development leap in the Championship, but hard to compare with the PL. It’s a good league though and we have seen brilliant Championship players make the step up. Again it’s for the data/scouting team to figure out if he’s good enough for us.

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« Reply #78994 on: April 27, 2024, 08:52:26 am »
7 Hag’s biggest issue came because of his pursuit of Frenkie de Jong, something that was completely driven by 7 Hag and left them reeling at the end of the window when he finally gave up. Quite why he thought de Jong would come I don’t know, Barca were trying to force him out and he still didn’t want to play there, it was well reported that ETH was happy to continue waiting for the situation to play out when those at United would have moved on a bit quicker. Once that failed and the season started disastrously, they were scrambling, they end up paying double/triple the market value for Antony and they give Madrid the deal of a lifetime for a Casemiro with serious mileage in his legs.

A similar type of approach ends up burning them in his second summer, they want Kane but he goes to Bayern, they panic and buy Hojlund a couple of years too early, they can’t get rid of Maguire and McTominay and they end up doing the panic of all panics for Amrabat at the death of the window. It was two windows eerily similar to when David Moyes took over, time wasted chasing players that were never joining and eventually panic buying players that the manager knew would at least listen to him, regardless of their actual level.

I imagine we have a plan for this window, bringing Slot in means we can continue with our profile of player for most positions, we can continue to aim U-25 and we’re pretty well versed in spotting a dickhead now so character assessments should be spot on.

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« Reply #78995 on: April 27, 2024, 09:18:34 am »
It's going to be very interesting to see the influence of Michael  Edwards coming through. If he was the guy behind Salah Mane Robbo etc I feel we can still be confident in the future. Getting the right players in is huge in modern football. I don't know much about Slot but hopefully he just sticks to coaching and tactics. Agree about 7 hag and picking their own players, I prefer a overall Director deciding that. Red bull do a great job of that, have their model and stick to it regardless of whos the coach.

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« Reply #78996 on: April 27, 2024, 12:16:50 pm »
The league doesn't matter because there are good players everywhere.

Kudus came from the Eredivisie for example.

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« Reply #78997 on: April 27, 2024, 12:17:14 pm »
The league doesn't matter because there are good players everywhere.

Kudus came from the Eredivisie for example.

Yes and he still isnt good enough for us.

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« Reply #78998 on: April 27, 2024, 12:19:10 pm »
Yes and he still isnt good enough for us.
I never said he was good enough for us, did I? Just that players shouldn't be "discriminated" against based on the league.

Suarez came from the Eredivisie, Wijnaldum was technically a Championship players and so on...

That's why the analytics guys and scouts are paid big bucks. They are the ones that can assess whether a player's game would translate to the PL.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé
« Reply #78999 on: April 27, 2024, 02:34:32 pm »
Still being desperate for a quality 6 is really annoying, it's not like we've had no notice we need it. 2 fucking years now. Sort it!! Though not the only problem of course.