Topic: Curtis Jones

[Oskar]

Please tell us though what he's good at, like genuinely what is he good at for you? (not trying to provoke or wind you up)

Would he start for any other team in the league? 

A lot of things.

And yes.

[deanloco9]

A lot of things.

And yes.

But what things? It's not just me asking now, What is Curtis Jones good at? 

[Caps4444]

But what things? It's not just me asking now, What is Curtis Jones good at? 

He counts as home grown?

[DefJack]

What does he do? Seriously, what are his strengths?

He's singularly remarkable at extracting vague passive aggressive pseudo-critique from people who should really know better.

[deanloco9]

He counts as home grown?

So does Adrian 

[DefJack]

I don't envisage we'll see the best of him again unless we move away from having an overlapping full back on his side.

The return of Robertson has forced him back into the defensive role offering transitional cover on the side of the midfield three, nullifying his offensive impact an reducing him to a circulating role in general possession.

His best output has come in either the 3-2-2-3 structure featuring Robertson in the back three that we saw towards the end of last season, or in the earlier parts of the season where Gomez was providing the defensive cover by inverting into the midfield three from left back.

It's a shame that a good year in a role which suits him is being washed away due to an underwhelming handful of weeks in a role that doesn't.

He isn't the problem, and if you can't conjure a specific criticism don't even bother raising it.

[PEG2K]

Re the question what he's good at. Someone already said it. Whether he's good or not depends on the rest of the team. He's tidy (or, dare I say, looking "silky" ), can circulate the ball (medium passing range), can press well, can grab the odd goals here and there. But he doesn't excel in any specific categories.

So when the rest of the team is playing well, he adds a "feels good" factor. When the forwards are firing and the defence doesn't concede silly goals, we all enjoy his nice and smooth moves in the midfield and no one would care if he dwells on the ball a little bit. But when we're chasing the game, he won't be the one who will cruise past their midfield, or pull out a penetrative pass, let alone creating a chance or scoring a goal.

For a top team, his role will always be somewhere between a squad player and a player who is competing for a spot in the first xi. Only a nailed on starter for a midtable team.

[Barryg21]

Genuine question to see where people think he is at

Lallana at his peak for us, or Curtis at his peak ?

[Draex]

Genuine question to see where people think he is at

Lallana at his peak for us, or Curtis at his peak ?

He’s 22.

Don’t get the Jones hate, he’s basically being asked to keep possession and cover for Robbo and Diaz bombing forward, it’s a thankless task.

Yes he can improve, especially in being stronger in duels but he really isn’t the problem in the team.

[kaesarsosei]

Again, another post-match thread were suddenly someone is fucking shite and should be sacked. Personally I think Jones can have 10 years for us as a squad player, starting 15-20 games a season in all comps. He should not be seen as a Macca level auto-starter and if we had more time to build our MF last summer, he would not be getting as many games.

[Barryg21]

He’s 22.

Don’t get the Jones hate, he’s basically being asked to keep possession and cover for Robbo and Diaz bombing forward, it’s a thankless task.

Yes he can improve, especially in being stronger in duels but he really isn’t the problem in the team.

Sorry, not hating. Just trying to understand what expectations are. As pre injury he was being talked off a a superstar in making, and getting in England 11
And now we talk about pressing, tidy, re cycle ball, maybe chip in with a goal (which reminds me of Lallana - who was a really solid pro, but never a superstar)

[Draex]

Sorry, not hating. Just trying to understand what expectations are. As pre injury he was being talked off a a superstar in making, and getting in England 11
And now we talk about pressing, tidy, re cycle ball, maybe chip in with a goal (which reminds me of Lallana - who was a really solid pro, but never a superstar)

Not everyone can play the piano, maybe that’s half the problem, we’ve ran out of those willing to carry it.

[TepidT2O]

Aye aye…. Another excellent player people have totally written off.

[RainbowFlick]

so much recency bias, before injury he was one of our best players. need to find a better role for him and also consider what midfield three he best works in.

[mrantarctica]

Good young player. Needs to work on consistency but he's got the ingredients. There are many other players that should move on before Curtis does

[Davidbowie]

I don't rate Jones (I know you're not allowed to say that) but seeing him in the starting XI makes LFC weaker as far as I'm concerned.

Someone asked what is he good at? It's a good question and one I have asked in the past.

Is he known for his blistering pace & ability to get away from his marker? No.
Is he particularly physical, strong or tall? No.
Is he a superb passer, renowned for his ability to switch the play or thread intricate through balls? No.
Is he a set-piece taker? Strong on his free kicks and corners? No.
Is he an excellent striker of the ball, accurate or powerful long range shots? No.
Is he a terrific dribbler, known for his flicks, tricks & stepovers? No.
Is he a great tackler, and dictator of play in the middle of the pitch? No.

Genuine question, but what IS Jones good at? What strength and quality does he have that others don't? What does he bring to the team that makes us stronger than without him in it?