Topic: UK General Election - Mordaunt, Mogg and Mad Liz all gone - STARMERGEDDON

[Lisan Al Gaib]

It is

Ok, I'm not the only one thinking it then and it really shouldn't be tolerated.

[Red-Soldier]

Sorry I've seen the term "Jihadist Independents" several times in this thread over the last few days, is this what they're calling themselves? If not why are people calling them this?

I called this out, two days ago.  I wasn't aware that they ran on a banner of being a 'Jihadist Independant'.

I didn't know RAWK was happy with such Islamophobia.   

[west_london_red]

It comes across as a bit Islamophobic to me...but maybe I'm overreacting?

I do think your second part is fair though and its why I think its extremely selfish to be running with Gaza as your single issue when there are so many issues that constituents will find more important right now.

It’s a bit of a dog whistle to be honest, but based on some of the wider views of these independent MPs I suspect they ain’t from the moderate wing of their religion either.

As for their constituents, I share your sympathy for the constituents that didn’t vote for them, I don’t have any sympathy for the people who did vote for them, they will get the MP they deserve.

[alonsoisared]

The British general public, or English at least, gets a fair hammering on these threads but I have to say overall it is quite comforting to see that people have voted in number again for left leaning parties over the right. There will always be that minority who Frottage and co are swung by but overall when you compare this result to the shitshows around Europe it's a good sign. Maybe not so bad after all.. looking forward to everyone getting behind England at the euros now 

[Hazell]

It is

Agree, it's definitely Islamophobic.

[Kenny's Jacket]

It is

Unfortunatrely RAWK has an issue with Islamophobia or whatever the correct term is.

[Kenny's Jacket]

The British general public, or English at least, gets a fair hammering on these threads but I have to say overall it is quite comforting to see that people have voted in number again for left leaning parties over the right. There will always be that minority who Frottage and co are swung by but overall when you compare this result to the shitshows around Europe it's a good sign. Maybe not so bad after all.. looking forward to everyone getting behind England at the euros now 

Wales returned no Conservatives, get behind the Welsh at the Euros.

[Rhi]

There's a "Report to Moderator" function for anyone who spots anything they think looks Islamaphobic.

[9 kemlyn road]

Great to get the Tories out!   Love the cabinet,  lots of normal people doing jobs they know.  No nepotism or getting jobs because they went to eton together.

On a side note,  thank you for everyone who has posted.   I like to think I’m quite politically literate but I’ve learned a lot

And it’s great to see someone like Angela rayner becoming deputy prime minister of the country with the start in life she had ,over coming the odds against her,pregnant at 16, no school qualifications she is a shining example to all young people who like her were told she wouldn’t amount to much .and the tories hate her ,it shows what they really think of working class girls who dare to get ideas above their station.
Bravo Angela ,a good northern lass made good ,give em hell lass .

[Byrnee]

It comes across as a bit Islamophobic to me...but maybe I'm overreacting?

I do think your second part is fair though and its why I think its extremely selfish to be running with Gaza as your single issue when there are so many issues that constituents will find more important right now.

Yup as others have mentioned, the jury is out but if the press want to start digging I don't think it'll be long before they find some interesting facts on some of these candidates, ties to very unsavoury characters for example and previous tweets or posts.

Shockat Adam has a history here, there's already stuff out there and frankly I wouldn't be surprised to find he has some pretty outrageous views. Already has a lot of statements attributed to him about the Zionist Labour party and how Hindus are attacking Muslims locally, sounding *a lot* like he was justifying violence against Hindu's. Without much evidence for any of these claims. On his website, Oct 7th gets a mention as a date but literally nothing about the deeper complicated history, attacks, hostages - just another lazy comparison to Ukraine. Let's see if he acknowledges these comments are inappropriate, or if this single issue is enough to serve the people of Leicester South.

I suspect, like Galloway's mob, these candidates will prove to  be unfit to serve.

[Crosby Nick]

Wales returned no Conservatives, get behind the Welsh at the Euros.

Slight flaw in the plan.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Slight flaw in the plan.

I knew some smart arse would say this   

Good Welsh people are backing the Swiss today, get behind the Welsh as the cheer on the Swiss

Does anyone really want Pickford to get one over on Shaq

[Schmarn]

It comes across as a bit Islamophobic to me...but maybe I'm overreacting?

I do think your second part is fair though and its why I think its extremely selfish to be running with Gaza as your single issue when there are so many issues that constituents will find more important right now.

Sorry mate, certainly not my intention to offend and I won’t mention that term again.

My issue is not with campaigning on Gaza, indeed the horrors need to be spoken about. I do have issues with some of their supporters intimidating voters, shouting antisemitic slogans and disrespecting the democratic process. Much as I take issue with some Reform supporters. But you’re quite right that one mustn’t taint the whole by the sins of the few.

Apologies

[ianburns252]

And it’s great to see someone like Angela rayner becoming deputy prime minister of the country with the start in life she had ,over coming the odds against her,pregnant at 16, no school qualifications she is a shining example to all young people who like her were told she wouldn’t amount to much .and the tories hate her ,it shows what they really think of working class girls who dare to get ideas above their station.
Bravo Angela ,a good northern lass made good ,give em hell lass .

That video that came out just before the election of her with Gordon Brown talking about Sure Start, meeting him and so one properly got me in the feels.

Brilliant appointment and a true role model for many

[John C]

There's a "Report to Moderator" function for anyone who spots anything they think looks Islamaphobic.

I reckon they know it, but there's a pattern of a few people who'd rather just criticise RAWK as a site which is really a sly dig at the Mods.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

And it’s great to see someone like Angela rayner becoming deputy prime minister of the country with the start in life she had ,over coming the odds against her,pregnant at 16, no school qualifications she is a shining example to all young people who like her were told she wouldn’t amount to much .and the tories hate her ,it shows what they really think of working class girls who dare to get ideas above their station.
Bravo Angela ,a good northern lass made good ,give em hell lass .

Absolutely. I really like her - in fact I think all the cabinet are people you can get behind. Labour have some terrific MPs - going to be interesting to see how they go about navigating the fixes the country desperately needs.

Interesting as well that a couple of Tory MPs have admitted the NHS is broken and the Tories were never in a position to fix it - I imagine they mean idealogically?

[Circa1892]

Absolutely. I really like her - in fact I think all the cabinet are people you can get behind. Labour have some terrific MPs - going to be interesting to see how they go about navigating the fixes the country desperately needs.

Interesting as well that a couple of Tory MPs have admitted the NHS is broken and the Tories were never in a position to fix it - I imagine they mean idealogically?

On the cabinet - yes lots of impressive people. A lot less private school and privileged than the shadow cabinet from 2019.

On the Tories comments about the NHS, I think it’s double edged. I think Hunt was basically saying the Tories wouldn’t fund it but equally Labour are able to push reform through unions and other stakeholders that Tories just couldn’t.

[Dr. Beaker]

On the cabinet - yes lots of impressive people. A lot less private school and privileged than the shadow cabinet from 2019.

On the Tories comments about the NHS, I think it’s double edged. I think Hunt was basically saying the Tories wouldn’t fund it but equally Labour are able to push reform through unions and other stakeholders that Tories just couldn’t.

The tories don't even want to fix the NHS, they want it to fail, and do everything they can to help it to fail.

[Libertine]

Love this graphic - 631 British seats, ordered by Labour % of vote.

The tactical voting between Labour and Lib Dems is a thing of beauty....




https://xcancel.com/HzBrandenburg/status/1809633522115661993

[Sangria]

Love this graphic - 631 British seats, ordered by Labour % of vote.

The tactical voting between Labour and Lib Dems is a thing of beauty....

https://xcancel.com/HzBrandenburg/status/1809633522115661993

In case anyone has difficulty understanding the graphic, 1 is 100% of the votes, and the colours refer to the party's votes as a fraction of 1. You want the red and yellow to be dominated by one of the colours, and not be evenly spread. So you can see the high red percentages have very little yellow until some way down the list, when the slope goes pretty steeply towards dominant yellow and little red. Meaning where Labour had a good chance, very few people voted Lib Dem, with a small section where it's uncertain who should be dominant, then a section where Lib Dems dominated with very few Labour votes. Compare with how Reform is pretty much evenly spread everywhere.

Also note the amount of Green in the high red areas. That's left wingers posting protest votes in Labour safe seats.

[Wilmo]

Love this graphic - 631 British seats, ordered by Labour % of vote.

The tactical voting between Labour and Lib Dems is a thing of beauty....




https://xcancel.com/HzBrandenburg/status/1809633522115661993

New era, new avatar

[9 kemlyn road]

The tories don't even want to fix the NHS, they want it to fail, and do everything they can to help it to fail.

Very true. They were opposed to it before it was even set up and running.
Churchill vowed to fight its creation with every fibre of his being.the greatest achievement a government has ever given to its people and all the tories could think of was how they could stop it.
They’ve been trying ever since .

[JerseyKloppite]

Unfortunatrely RAWK has an issue with Islamophobia or whatever the correct term is.

If you’re implying that the site is tolerant of or encourages Islamophobic members or posting, please show your working or preferably a) report posts or b) contact the site to raise concerns. Making lazy remarks on the subject is exceptionally unhelpful give the nature of what you’re alleging.

If what you mean is “some of the posters on RAWK are Islamophobic”, that’s obviously sad and needs to be dealt with but is a very different thing. And still needs to be resolved with reporting and contacting the mods.

[John C]

If you’re implying that the site is tolerant of or encourages Islamophobic members or posting, please show your working or preferably a) report posts or b) contact the site to raise concerns. Making lazy remarks on the subject is exceptionally unhelpful give the nature of what you’re alleging.

If what you mean is “some of the posters on RAWK are Islamophobic”, that’s obviously sad and needs to be dealt with but is a very different thing. And still needs to be resolved with reporting and contacting the mods.

Well said JK.

[Kenny's Jacket]

If you’re implying that the site is tolerant of or encourages Islamophobic members or posting, please show your working or preferably a) report posts or b) contact the site to raise concerns. Making lazy remarks on the subject is exceptionally unhelpful give the nature of what you’re alleging.

If what you mean is “some of the posters on RAWK are Islamophobic”, that’s obviously sad and needs to be dealt with but is a very different thing. And still needs to be resolved with reporting and contacting the mods.

If a German manager talks scouse its great- If a Scouse Manager wears Arab clothing, its criticised
A week ago we had mocking of 150 Muslims dying of heat exhaustion
And now we have this Jihadi Independents shit. 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I'd just like to say that Stevie is a twat.

[west_london_red]

If a German manager talks scouse its great- If a Scouse Manager wears Arab clothing, its criticised
A week ago we had mocking of 150 Muslims dying of heat exhaustion
And now we have this Jihadi Independents shit. 

Far be it for me to talk on behalf of the good people of Liverpool, but as far as I know Scousers dont go around stoning people to death or beheading them for being homosexuals or cutting up journalists into pieces and flushing their remains down the drain.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Far be it for me to talk on behalf of the good people of Liverpool, but as far as I know Scousers dont go around stoning people to death or beheading them for being homosexuals or cutting up journalists into pieces and flushing their remains down the drain.

Neither do all Arabs. 

[thejbs]

And it’s great to see someone like Angela rayner becoming deputy prime minister of the country with the start in life she had ,over coming the odds against her,pregnant at 16, no school qualifications she is a shining example to all young people who like her were told she wouldn’t amount to much .and the tories hate her ,it shows what they really think of working class girls who dare to get ideas above their station.
Bravo Angela ,a good northern lass made good ,give em hell lass .

Michelle O’Neill, SF leader,  was 16 when she had a kid. Has talked about the nuns praying over her to rid her sins when she was at school. Truly shitty how this country treats vulnerable young women.

[Red Beret]

Neither do all Arabs.

But there's a good chance the ones SG works for do.

However, I agree that mockery of 150 people dying in heat is unacceptable. I didn't see these posts though.

[thejbs]

Neither do all Arabs.

Stevie’s not being criticised for wearing Arab clothing. He’s being criticised for taking millions from a despotic regime to sportswash their reputation.

[Alan_X]

If a German manager talks scouse its great- If a Scouse Manager wears Arab clothing, its criticised
A week ago we had mocking of 150 Muslims dying of heat exhaustion
And now we have this Jihadi Independents shit. 

People were mocking people dying on RAWK? Did you report it?

[Kenny's Jacket]

But there's a good chance the ones SG works for do.

However, I agree that mockery of 150 people dying in heat is unacceptable. I didn't see these posts though.

Not everyone who wears traditional Arab dress Kills gays and women etc

I cant quite believe Ive had to make these  two replies

[John C]

If a German manager talks scouse its great- If a Scouse Manager wears Arab clothing, its criticised

I'm sure by now other posters will have contextualised the complete difference in each circumstance for you.

A week ago we had mocking of 150 Muslims dying of heat exhaustion

I wasn't around at the time but was it removed or is it still on that 'RAWK' place?

And now we have this Jihadi Independents shit. 

All deleted and dealt with.

Anything else?

[west_london_red]

Neither do all Arabs. 

He wasn’t dressed as an Arab, he was dressed specifically as a Saudi Arabian. Look at the pictures on line, the specific head dress and white outfit is only really worn by those from the Arab peninsula, and just in case it’s not clear, he has a green silk like scarf around his neck in the same colour of the Saudi flag and the Saudi government logo of a palm tree with two crossed swords beneath it.

[Kenny's Jacket]

People were mocking people dying on RAWK? Did you report it?

Yes, it got deleted.  I actually like the poster too

[west_london_red]

Not everyone who wears traditional Arab dress Kills gays and women etc

I cant quite believe Ive had to make these  two replies

You wouldn’t have to if you knew what you were talking about.

[Alan_X]

Yes, it got deleted.  I actually like the poster too

So it was reported and the moderators acted on the report?

Seriously - fuck this shit.

We have a Labour government after 14 years of Tory chaos and this is what the thread turns into?

Locked. If someone wants to reopen it feel free.