Author Topic: European and World Champion and all round Big Man Joseph Dave Gomez (Read 779044 times)

farawayred · « **Reply #240 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:12:38 pm »

Quote from: clinical on August 9, 2015, 06:43:14 pm

18 years old. Debut. Away at a place we lost to 6-1.

Yeah. Well done lad

Quote from: ThePeetmix on August 9, 2015, 06:40:29 pm

Did a very good job handling Walters. A tough player to play against.

Did really well for his age, for the venue and for his debut in the PL in general. Harsh yellow, both players were holding each other.

Claire. · « **Reply #241 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:12:42 pm »

Thought he did a great job, Jon Walters is a gnarly horrible bastard and Gomez gave him nothing really.

Haven't watched any of pre-season but colour me impressed.

clinical · « **Reply #242 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:12:57 pm »

Quote from: Notayesman on August 9, 2015, 07:10:12 pm

Was very impressed with him. Looks strong and brave, though he definitely looks like a CB or FB playing on the wrong side. We quite obviously did most of our attacking down the right. In the end though he got the assist. A good start.

Flanagan played on the left and we nearly won the league.

Moreno will get his chance.

Stussy · « **Reply #243 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:13:10 pm »

Never heard of this lad before we signed him and he looks like a future diamond

Halcyon Lissome · « **Reply #244 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:19:06 pm »

I remember when Flanagan played his first (?) game in the team in the 13/14 season at Arsenal on the left and had a mare. Myself and many others doubted his future at the club. But from then on he was superb.

Gomez wasn't peerless but he wasn't awful either. Pretty decent actually. I would just like him to come forward more so we can have more width to our attacks.

redbyrdz · « **Reply #245 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:19:31 pm »

Thought he did really well. Lots of confidence, played out from the back even under pressure, gave Walters nothing.

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #246 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:19:49 pm »

He did well today. Jonathan Walters wouldn't rank very high on a list of players you'd like to come up against on debut. Gomez had some lapses but for the most part matched Walters for strength and speed, took up good positions when we had possession and retained his composure throughout.

Fiasco · « **Reply #247 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:20:13 pm »

All in all he was good, but he didn't have it easy out there. But I'm glad he didn't, because it's all about him learning. He didn't look out of place and that's the best compliment you can give. He's got a very bright future.

Samie · « **Reply #248 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:21:50 pm »

He was never going to have an easy game against that cock who turns up only when we play them.

88_RED · « **Reply #249 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:22:25 pm »

Decent debut.. Thrown straight in at the deep end and showed he can swim with the big boys..

Showed a few nerves out there, but that's to be expected..
Made up for the lad..

Claire. · « **Reply #250 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:25:08 pm »

Putting it another way, would anyone rather have had Moreno up against Walters today?

SerbianScouser · « **Reply #251 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:30:32 pm »

Quote from: Claire. on August 9, 2015, 07:25:08 pm

Putting it another way, would anyone rather have had Moreno up against Walters today?

If Moreno could have handled Lukaku directly he`d cope with Walters as well. Everybody looked better defensively today, we obviously worked on it more than we usually do, I imagine Moreno would have looked good today also.

BTW- Moreno is a must for Bournemouth - we`re gonna need as much overlapping as we can on both flanks while Gomez can continue to play away from home.

Djimi Smicer34 · « **Reply #252 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:35:56 pm »

All things considered I thought that he had a very good PL debut, one that will stand him in good stead going forward. I'm a big fan already, he's got all of the raw fundamentals he needs to succeed at this level and he didn't look phased or out of his depth against a dificult, physical oppontent in Jon Walters. . He'll go from strength to strength here, its his position to lose now.

Beninger · « **Reply #253 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:37:39 pm »

Tough, physical player is Walters and Gomez never shied away. Well done.

Mercer · « **Reply #254 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:41:05 pm »

Brute of a boy.

He also carries the ball very nicely, and calmly out of defense.

He does look a gem - (very) early days and all that, but still...

BEAST · « **Reply #255 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:41:11 pm »

this kid is the real deal

lorenzo23 · « **Reply #256 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:41:32 pm »

Quote from: Claire. on August 9, 2015, 07:25:08 pm

Putting it another way, would anyone rather have had Moreno up against Walters today?

Yes what's wrong with Moreno?

ThePeetmix · « **Reply #257 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:42:11 pm »

Quote from: lorenzo23 on August 9, 2015, 07:41:32 pm

Yes what's wrong with Moreno?

I think it's the aerial challenge, which is one of Moreno's weaknesses.

N0rnIr0nRed · « **Reply #258 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:43:00 pm »

Didn't look fantastic aerially but tbf it is Stoke.

Otherwise I thought he was sound. Great debut from a kid.

SlowRap · « **Reply #259 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:46:20 pm »

Massive learning curve that game, few nervous moments but he'll learn from them. Only 18! What a talent.

Van Halen · « **Reply #260 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:48:56 pm »

"Cool Joe" Gomez.

No nerves on the kid at all.

SerbianScouser · « **Reply #261 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:50:08 pm »

If we can deal with speedsters as well as he dealt with a physical bully today we`ll be on to something.

Greyfox · « **Reply #262 on:** August 9, 2015, 07:55:25 pm »

Well done Joe...excellent today and with the nerves gone should be a player

SwordInYourGut · « **Reply #263 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:00:26 pm »

Quote from: Claire. on August 9, 2015, 07:25:08 pm

Putting it another way, would anyone rather have had Moreno up against Walters today?

Maybe not for defending against Walters, but Moreno gives us something in attack. I don't think we've seen the best of Moreno yet. Gomez did very well though, so no complaints.

Magz50 · « **Reply #264 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:08:04 pm »

Did very well up against a well hardened and calloused engorged cock of the highest order.

Cpt_Reina · « **Reply #265 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:08:43 pm »

Quote from: Claire. on August 9, 2015, 07:25:08 pm

Putting it another way, would anyone rather have had Moreno up against Walters today?

Gomez had a few shaky moments, the sort that Moreno would have been called out for, but there's a lot of good will behind Gomez right now so most will look beyond it. Which isn't a bad thing.

But I don't think this was necessarily a performance you can point to and say Moreno won't be getting that LB spot back any time soon. Gomez was solid enough other than 2 or 3 times he was responsible for Stoke getting in, but he offered nothing in an offensive sense (not a slight on him, he's a right footed CB playing on the left, its to be expected).

Wouldn't feel at all bothered if Moreno came back in for Bournemouth, we can afford to ceed some of that solidity for a little more verve at home to a newly promoted side.

clinical · « **Reply #266 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:08:50 pm »

Think we should alternate between Gomez and Moreno depending on opposition. They will both get plenty of games this year. That's for sure

Smudgester · « **Reply #267 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:11:30 pm »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on August 9, 2015, 08:08:43 pm

Gomez had a few shaky moments, the sort that Moreno would have been called out for, but there's a lot of good will behind Gomez right now so most will look beyond it. Which isn't a bad thing.

But I don't think this was necessarily a performance you can point to and say Moreno won't be getting that LB spot back any time soon. Gomez was solid enough other than 2 or 3 times he was responsible for Stoke getting in, but he offered nothing in an offensive sense (not a slight on him, he's a right footed CB playing on the left, its to be expected).

Wouldn't feel at all bothered if Moreno came back in for Bournemouth, we can afford to ceed some of that solidity for a little more verve at home to a newly promoted side.

Would agree with that. If Rodgers goes back to wing backs for a sustained period this year then today offered no evidence that Gomez could work in that system.

And his booking was senseless

FernandoTourettes · « **Reply #268 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:15:40 pm »

Felt like he was targeted today - that crossfield diagonal ball to Walters, which he was caught under a few times. He delt with most it well though.

On the ball, composed as he has been in pre-season. Love it when he carries the ball out of defence and wonders into the middle. Only Can has looked comfortable doing it since Agger left.

Early days but given his composure, versatility and being cheap as chips, he's already looking like a top signing.

Sammy5IsAlive · « **Reply #269 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:19:12 pm »

He deserves a great deal of credit for that performance. It's maybe not quite Rob Jones vs Giggs but playing against Stoke away and dealing with Walters is a real test of character and he held firm.

Having said that though I hope Moreno is allowed to start with a clean slate this season. That goal vs Spurs feels a lifetime ago but I hope he gets the chance in a less dysfuntional team to show that it wasn't just a one off.

blert596 · « **Reply #270 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:26:22 pm »

Quote from: ThePeetmix on August 9, 2015, 07:42:11 pm

I think it's the aerial challenge, which is one of Moreno's weaknesses.

I thought the lad done really well today. However, he seriously needs to learn to judge the flight of a ball. A couple of times today he just completely got underneath the flight and allowed Walters to take the ball with him then completely out of position. I think it happened about 3 times in a couple of minutes, and Stoke tried to repeat it more and more. Fortunately they're shite and never had the quality to take advantage of it.

Mamadou · « **Reply #271 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:29:30 pm »

he's tough fucker... although he's 18yr old he seem very professional and he's not impressed with anything

Arcadian · « **Reply #272 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:36:37 pm »

Yes, he had a couple of shakey moments as did some other more senior defenders, but that run right through the middle of the park was as smooth as butter and he still looks a massive talent to me.

Eeyore · « **Reply #273 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:37:21 pm »

Played well but always looked like a centre back trying to play full back when on the ball, phenomenal athlete though.

BobPaisley3 · « **Reply #274 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:53:16 pm »

Great debut and proved he's good enough at this level. I'd play Moreno against Bournemouth for his greater attacking threat but that's the beauty of a squad, horses for courses.

lorenzo23 · « **Reply #275 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:53:19 pm »

All i say is Moreno is the better LB in my eyes and hope just because Gomez did great when you put everything into perspective we don't have repeat of Can this season....... Hope he plays CB when europa league starts.

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #276 on:** August 9, 2015, 08:55:06 pm »

Very impressive. Walters is a handful, Gomez did very well against him.

cptrios · « **Reply #277 on:** August 9, 2015, 09:36:36 pm »

Quote from: Al 555 on August 9, 2015, 08:37:21 pm

Played well but always looked like a centre back trying to play full back when on the ball, phenomenal athlete though.

I loved that one moment early in the game where he skipped his way into central midfield with the ball, then sort of pulled up and said "uh oh, what the hell am I doing?"

I thought he had a "good enough" sort of performance, which under that sort of pressure and with Stoke targeting him all game really counts for a lot.

ABZ Rover · « **Reply #278 on:** August 9, 2015, 09:41:08 pm »

Think we have a real player here. Very impressed with the lad and hope he gets a decent run to prove himself.

Stoke away is a c*nt of a game to make your debut but the lad took it in his stride.

LFC UNTIL THE MANAGER IS NO LONGER DESERVING OF MY SYMPATHY · « **Reply #279 on:** August 9, 2015, 09:41:56 pm »

Quote from: Claire. on August 9, 2015, 07:25:08 pm

Putting it another way, would anyone rather have had Moreno up against Walters today?

I wouldn't.

Walters is very physical and I think Gomez was the right choice for this match.