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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #200 on: September 2, 2021, 07:40:42 pm »
Thanks for that.

I wonder is this  covid related and things might improve or is this it until this shower lose the franchise.

Can't seem to find any info as to wether advance fares should be offered on all journeys.

Can't be just football travellers getting shafted surely?
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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #201 on: September 2, 2021, 07:44:40 pm »
It is. I've looked on other days and other weekends where Liverpool aren't at home and there are or were advanced fares for all of them, including busy trains.

It'll be like this until they lose the franchise is my guess.

Managed to get my Palace tickets for £34 with them, I bet they're gutted they fucked that up and didn't double their profits!

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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #202 on: September 2, 2021, 07:48:38 pm »
It'll be cheaper to get a taxi soon
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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #203 on: September 7, 2021, 08:14:09 pm »
That new London to Scotland budget train. One can only dream...

shame it doesn't stop in Birmingham or somewhere.
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« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2021, 12:01:29 am »

With the Arsenal game now at 5.30pm on a Saturday it looks like there is no train back to London (unless you want to leave at half time). Mind boggling that there is no train after 8pm.

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« Reply #205 on: September 23, 2021, 01:00:50 am »
With the Arsenal game now at 5.30pm on a Saturday it looks like there is no train back to London (unless you want to leave at half time). Mind boggling that there is no train after 8pm.

there is an 8.04pm West Midlands train change at B'ham gets back at 12.40am, not ideal but you can get back. There is a fast train through Crewe that leaves a few minutes before that train arrives in Crewe, on off chance it was running late you could hop over (while they haven't aligned those times so you can change I have no idea). And yes the lack of a direct train after 7.48pm to London on a Saturday has always been mind boggling.
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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2021, 07:05:06 am »
You'd miss the last 5 minutes or so of the match to get back to Lime Street in time for that train, which is a shame because there's actually advanced fares out for that day!

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« Reply #207 on: September 23, 2021, 08:09:08 am »

Thanks. The odd thing is that there does seem to be a later train on Sundays. You’d think Avanti might see an opportunity to make money.

I may have to take a pass on this one as it’s a long way to go to miss the end of the game and get home after 1 or pay for a hotel.

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« Reply #208 on: September 23, 2021, 11:09:55 am »
You'd miss the last 5 minutes or so of the match to get back to Lime Street in time for that train, which is a shame because there's actually advanced fares out for that day!

I think it's doable if you are down the stairs in the last few minutes and get out first, might have to jog a bit of it.
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« Reply #209 on: September 24, 2021, 04:37:02 pm »
Why are there no trains back the day after the Arsenal game? Just haven't been released yet?

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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #210 on: September 24, 2021, 04:41:53 pm »
Yeah they just haven't been released yet

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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #211 on: September 25, 2021, 07:41:54 am »
Advance fares available for the Newcastle game

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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #212 on: October 4, 2021, 04:19:19 pm »
Seemed to be an extra train from Lime St to Euston put on yesterday at 20.02. Hoping they do something for Arsenal too.
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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #213 on: October 4, 2021, 04:23:03 pm »
Heard from friends that a few of the trains were pretty empty on the way up to the game yesterday

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« Reply #214 on: October 4, 2021, 04:45:34 pm »
Heard from friends that a few of the trains were pretty empty on the way up to the game yesterday

Yeah, with the new system, if you can't book a seat (ie it's 'fully booked') you can't buy an off peak return online, but coaches G (I think), U and C aren't bookable, so always free, if you get an off peak ticket at the station you can still travel.


Quite a few empty seats as I walked through, I had a double seat to myself, which rarely used to get on match days
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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #215 on: October 4, 2021, 04:49:36 pm »
Hopefully it continues and they're forced to start offering advanced fares on all trains

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« Reply #216 on: October 4, 2021, 06:57:26 pm »
I'm paying more for standard class on Avanti this season than I did for first class last season.

First class on match days as of last week is just coach K so no Advance fares or SeatFrog upgrades.

Coaches G, H, J are Standard Premium at a £25 each way supplement, no food nor drink.

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« Reply #217 on: October 4, 2021, 11:09:07 pm »
I'm paying more for standard class on Avanti this season than I did for first class last season.

First class on match days as of last week is just coach K so no Advance fares or SeatFrog upgrades.

Coaches G, H, J are Standard Premium at a £25 each way supplement, no food nor drink.

Come back Virgin.  All is forgiven.

All the split ticketing diddles are gone too from what I can see. Really is a racket.
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« Reply #218 on: October 5, 2021, 09:35:23 am »
Hopefully it continues and they're forced to start offering advanced fares on all trains
Yeah, with the new system, if you can't book a seat (ie it's 'fully booked') you can't buy an off peak return online, but coaches G (I think), U and C aren't bookable, so always free, if you get an off peak ticket at the station you can still travel.


Quite a few empty seats as I walked through, I had a double seat to myself, which rarely used to get on match days
how much is off peak return on the day?

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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #219 on: October 5, 2021, 09:40:39 am »
It is. I've looked on other days and other weekends where Liverpool aren't at home and there are or were advanced fares for all of them, including busy trains.

It'll be like this until they lose the franchise is my guess.

Managed to get my Palace tickets for £34 with them, I bet they're gutted they fucked that up and didn't double their profits!

Haven't they just taken over from Virgin? Not football related but fares to and from London from the NW have risen considerably, even with advance booking.

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« Reply #220 on: October 5, 2021, 09:41:13 am »
how much is off peak return on the day?

For example the Brighton game at the end of the month is £95 without a railcard


Haven't they just taken over from Virgin? Not football related but fares to and from London from the NW have risen considerably, even with advance booking.


They took over just before the pandemic

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« Reply #221 on: October 5, 2021, 09:48:05 am »
For example the Brighton game at the end of the month is £95 without a railcard




Yeah, £94.50, v expensive, but just worth knowing if you think train is 'fully booked' and you need to travel you still can.
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« Reply #222 on: October 5, 2021, 09:51:47 am »
For example the Brighton game at the end of the month is £95 without a railcard



They took over just before the pandemic

It looks like they have the franchise until 2030!

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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #223 on: October 12, 2021, 08:16:17 pm »
Anyone know when the Birmingham to Liverpool trains reduce in price please and the best site to book the ticket on please?  Thanks.

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« Reply #224 on: October 12, 2021, 08:20:44 pm »
Anyone know when the Birmingham to Liverpool trains reduce in price please and the best site to book the ticket on please?  Thanks.

London Northwestern booking advance fares dates here https://www.londonnorthwesternrailway.co.uk/tickets-discounts/ticket-types/advance-train-tickets

Avanti here https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/travel-information/plan-your-journey/timetables

You can set ticket alerts for Avanti here https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/tickets-and-savings/ways-to-save/advance-ticket-alerts
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Re: Trains from London - any general tips, please?
« Reply #226 on: October 13, 2021, 10:32:37 am »
Could anybody give me advice on the quickest route or way to get to Stansted Airport on Saturday after the Watford match? My flight is at 18:10, the earliest I can see on Trainline to arrive at Stansted is 17:00. Is there any way I could get there before that by maybe getting an Uber somewhere first of something?

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« Reply #227 on: October 13, 2021, 12:40:12 pm »
You should be able to make the 14:59 from Watford Junction arriving Euston 15:22.  (You may even make the 14:46.)  Then the 15:52 from Tottenham Hale arriving Stansted 16:27.

The five stops on the Victoria Line from Euston to Tottenham Hale are easily doable in 30 minutes as the train travel time is about 12 minutes .  Allowing for a 5-minute wait and 5 minutes to get to/from platforms, should be fine.

Going from Watford High Street is slower, and I don't think road transport will beat this.
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« Reply #228 on: October 18, 2021, 09:28:02 pm »
Have trains from Euston for Southampton game gone advanced yet?

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« Reply #229 on: October 18, 2021, 11:09:59 pm »
Have trains from Euston for Southampton game gone advanced yet?

No, I’ve been waiting too. My guess is there won’t be any Advance tickets on trains that are of any use for getting to and from the game.

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« Reply #230 on: October 19, 2021, 08:00:10 am »
Thought I might of missed them as Villa ones went advanced

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« Reply #231 on: October 19, 2021, 11:42:17 am »
Thought I might of missed them as Villa ones went advanced

Saw your user name and thought you were going to post some special offers, as a cheaper alternative.
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« Reply #232 on: October 19, 2021, 12:04:52 pm »
Out of interest is the free Wifi signal good enough on Avanti to feasibly connect up a laptop and work from the train (WFT)?

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« Reply #233 on: October 19, 2021, 12:07:18 pm »
Out of interest is the free Wifi signal good enough on Avanti to feasibly connect up a laptop and work from the train (WFT)?

It’s terrible. Takes a couple of mins to download the BBC News page and sometimes not at all. I invariably end up using 4G.

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« Reply #234 on: October 19, 2021, 05:34:17 pm »
There is quite lot of the West Coast Mainline where the EE 4G signal is absent or unusable too

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« Reply #235 on: October 20, 2021, 10:48:54 am »
Have trains from Euston for Southampton game gone advanced yet?

They are out now, but Avanti not released any that get you in before 14:19. Nothing after the match

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« Reply #236 on: October 20, 2021, 11:49:07 am »
Just looking on London Northwestern have the standard off peak return at £49.10 but are only releasing advance tickets for the weekend on rolling basis and only up to 31st of October, Avanti are ridiculous, I actually felt glad I gat a £60 return for the villa game!

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« Reply #237 on: October 20, 2021, 12:19:45 pm »
65 quid return for villa. Ribbing bastards avanti want 132.20 return for Southampton. Not a single advance ticket to be seen 3 minutes after i got the e mail.
I have found flights from Stansted via Venice for 25 quid return out and back in the day! No wonder this country has no chance of meeting environmental targets.

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« Reply #238 on: October 20, 2021, 11:49:34 pm »
65 quid return for villa. Ribbing bastards avanti want 132.20 return for Southampton. Not a single advance ticket to be seen 3 minutes after i got the e mail.
I have found flights from Stansted via Venice for 25 quid return out and back in the day! No wonder this country has no chance of meeting environmental targets.

You had a look at West Midlands Railway, they might have cheaper tickets than Avanti if your willing to spend longer traveling.

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« Reply #239 on: October 21, 2021, 01:55:45 am »
65 quid return for villa. Ribbing bastards avanti want 132.20 return for Southampton. Not a single advance ticket to be seen 3 minutes after i got the e mail.
I have found flights from Stansted via Venice for 25 quid return out and back in the day! No wonder this country has no chance of meeting environmental targets.

Not hugely cheaper, but you can buy a cheapday return (c£96) on the day at the station (or online for different times that day if the other the trains you want are 'sold out') and travel on any of the avanti trains, you just can't book a seat on the train you want online in advance if the seats are all booked. You can then sit in coach C (the shop) or E/U (depending on the service) as those carriages aren't reservable.
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