Topic: Arsenal: Top of the divers league

[Bullet500]

Villa deserved it, resting their best players at city worked for them today.
We still lack a goalscorer. Been a very good season but ultimately the cheats will prosper again.

Arteta: “If one result is going to block us, that then we are not strong enough.”

“If you want to win titles, when you have this moment you have to stand up."

“In any other league in the world if you won the number of games in a row that we did, you would be six or eight points clear."

“That is not the case here. That is the challenge."

[Nick110581]

Villa deserved it, resting their best players at city worked for them today.
We still lack a goalscorer. Been a very good season but ultimately the cheats will prosper again.

So they won as they rested players at City ?

[decosabute]

There are worse things about our spectacular fuckup earlier, but one annoying side-effect I didn't anticipate was not being able to properly enjoy Arsenal's attempt at out-doing us.

[thejbs]

Arteta: “If one result is going to block us, that then we are not strong enough.”

“If you want to win titles, when you have this moment you have to stand up."

“In any other league in the world if you won the number of games in a row that we did, you would be six or eight points clear."

“That is not the case here. That is the challenge."

Or, say, if you get 98 points in a season…

[Redley]

Villa deserved it, resting their best players at city worked for them today.
We still lack a goalscorer. Been a very good season but ultimately the cheats will prosper again.

Surprised you’d throw the towel in after one setback. I hope we still believe we can win it, and you’ve got the GD advantage.

[The North Bank]

Surprised you’d throw the towel in after one setback. I hope we still believe we can win it, and you’ve got the GD advantage.

Fine line between belief and delusion.

[BigCDump]

Seems both sets of fans can have a good cry together in this thread.

[Samie]

It'sa good thing this lad is pretty decent at footie. 

Declan Rice:

“If you can't win games of football, don't lose.

[Bullet500]

It'sa good thing this lad is pretty decent at footie. 

I think you removed the full quote? The context was at this stage of the season, winning is important?

[Samie]

That's what came up on my timeline mate. 

[Bullet500]

That's what came up on my timeline mate. 

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1779574502235484321

Fake news, lol.

[cptrios]

Well Arsenal, welcome to our nightmare.

[Legs]

Arteta: “If one result is going to block us, that then we are not strong enough.”

“If you want to win titles, when you have this moment you have to stand up."

“In any other league in the world if you won the number of games in a row that we did, you would be six or eight points clear."

“That is not the case here. That is the challenge."

The 3rd quote he isn’t wrong is he and this is what most LFC and now you guys are finding out about these the days of drawing a game in the run in is like a loss that ISNT NORMAL is it ?

All you hear is Abu City have raised the bar no they’ve made it boring and without Klopp this would be 7 on the spin for these c*nts.

[Tonyh8su]

Is this game being played behind closed doors?

Let me guess, they emptied the stadium en mass as per last year instead of supporting their team?

Again, to most it only started to matter when their team somewhat got close and lost out.

Yeah, like your shit fans.

[Tonyh8su]

Again depends. If one wasn't too happy about them winning the first time particularly because of financial doping / sportswashing, I can understand.

Sure, you could appreciate some late drama and Utd losing out. But that's the limit.

Most didn't care then.

I just want you to know, that although you and your snideness (and the snideness of other fans of your club on here) might be tolerated by others, a lot of us see you for what you are.

[Mister Flip Flop]

I have to say the atmosphere was crap for our game today but at least our fans stayed until the end. That was embarrassing from Arsenal.

[PaulF]

I have to say the atmosphere was crap for our game today but at least our fans stayed until the end. That was embarrassing from Arsenal.

Do you think the fans thinking it's an easy game transfers onto the pitch? I'm thinking more about us and our last three games.  Before the game I think most fans were at least quietly confident of a win.
Not sure if Arsenal fans would be quite as confident ahead of their Villa game (given the strength of the opposition).

[Bullet500]

I just want you to know, that although you and your snideness (and the snideness of other fans of your club on here) might be tolerated by others, a lot of us see you for what you are.

yep, found one of those.

[kesey]

I told you their legs would go.

[JRed]

yep, found one of those.

I’m bet you comment on BBC sport HYS don’t you? You just seem like one of them.

[ScubaSteve]

I told you their legs would go.

No doubt. It’s city’s legs we’re all waiting to go 

[Tokyoite]

I told you their legs would go.

So have ours though, unfortunately.

[wemmick]

I know I'm late to this party, but goddamn, Arsenal. You can't fuck it up when we're fucking up, too. 115 has a clear run at the title now.

[BigBrainArteta]

I think Emery would do better with this squad. They just don't have a winning manager.

Im sure Liverpool fans of all fans know just what your up against competing against Pep's Man City. Beating Man City over 38 games is probably the most difficult challenge in English football history. One, because Pep is an excellent manager and motivator. Two, City are likely cheating and giving an already elite manager an artificial leg up. I reckon even Ferguson would have been blanked by this City team under Pep. A team that could literally do back-to-back trebles.

How do you think you will go next year against City under Pep with Amorim as manager? Daunting isn't is?

Were fine with Arteta. We know just what we are up against, as do you. By the way, Emery was useless for us. Arteta has improved the football at Arsenal in ways Emery was never going to. And where were all the Emery lovers last week when they got slapped up by Spurs 4-0 at Villa park? Come to think of it, why didn't Liverpool make an attempt for Emery?

[Dim Glas]

Im sure Liverpool fans of all fans know just what your up against competing against Pep's Man City. Beating Man City over 38 games is probably the most difficult challenge in English football history. One, because Pep is an excellent manager and motivator. Two, City are likely cheating and giving an already elite manager an artificial leg up. I reckon even Ferguson would have been blanked by this City team under Pep. A team that could literally do back-to-back trebles.

How do you think you will go next year against City under Pep with Amorim as manager? Daunting isn't is?

Were fine with Arteta. We know just what we are up against, as do you. By the way, Emery was useless for us. Arteta has improved the football at Arsenal in ways Emery was never going to. And where were all the Emery lovers last week when they got slapped up by Spurs 4-0 at Villa park? Come to think of it, why didn't Liverpool make an attempt for Emery?

a) it’s Guardiola, not ‘Pep’. He’s a prick of a man, a cheat as a player and a manager, no need to pander to him with nicknames. None of us are so lazy as not to be able to type his surname.

b) Daunting? No. The PL is a shitshow. It’s great to win cups, games, a title, whatever. But if you don’t, also not really that big a deal. Granted, I’m too old these days to give much of a shit, been there done that.

As for Emery, like with Wenger at the end, Arsenal fans seemed to be very disrespectful and twattish towards him. Just a genuinely terrible fanbase as was witnessed again at the weekend.

[ScottishGoon]

a) it’s Guardiola, not ‘Pep’. He’s a prick of a man, a cheat as a player and a manager, no need to pander to him with nicknames. None of us are so lazy as not to be able to type his surname.

b) Daunting? No. The PL is a shitshow. It’s great to win cups, games, a title, whatever. But if you don’t, also not really that big a deal. Granted, I’m too old these days to give much of a shit, been there done that.

As for Emery, like with Wenger at the end, Arsenal fans seemed to be very disrespectful and twattish towards him. Just a genuinely terrible fanbase as was witnessed again at the weekend.

Arsenal fans actually mostly liked Emery, don’t think many have a bad word to say about him, he became a guy that was poked fun at by the media and other fans in general. The Good Ebening memes still do the rounds of various fan bases.

He’s a very good coach, especially if you want to go far and progress in a European competition, that seems to be his niche. However, at the likes of Villa, Sevilla and Villarreal, he can choose to concentrate on them at the end of a season and let the league form slip. Im not sure you get away with that at a top club. He done it at Arsenal and we won 1 out of the last 5 games and missed out on top 4 by a point to Spurs. That was the start of his downfall from which he never really recovered. He had 1 win in 5 league games for Villa before the Arsenal game, but in between good Conference League performances . It’s what he does.

[MonsLibpool]

I know I'm late to this party, but goddamn, Arsenal. You can't fuck it up when we're fucking up, too. 115 has a clear run at the title now.

They'll be more disappointed by last week's results because it was in their hands and they had a chance to build a 3-point lead over us with a superior GD.

In the space of a week, it's gone from being in our hands then to Arsenal's hands and now it's in City's hands.

[bradders1011]

Had 5 Live on pre-match on Sunday and they must have had the mic in front of some cockney fool screeching NOWF LANDAN FOWEVAAAAHHH WOWEVA THE WEVVAAHHHHHHHH

What the frig is that song about?

[ScottishGoon]

Had 5 Live on pre-match on Sunday and they must have had the mic in front of some cockney fool screeching NOWF LANDAN FOWEVAAAAHHH WOWEVA THE WEVVAAHHHHHHHH

What the frig is that song about?

Catchy wee tune that isn’t it Bradders? 

[The North Bank]

They'll be more disappointed by last week's results because it was in their hands and they had a chance to build a 3-point lead over us with a superior GD.

In the space of a week, it's gone from being in our hands then to Arsenal's hands and now it's in City's hands.

The cheats dont feel pressure because success is just a transaction for them, they buy it like a new car.

[bradders1011]

Catchy wee tune that isn’t it Bradders? 

Stuck in my head the same way Baby Shark gets there.

[PaulF]

Stuck in my head the same way Baby Shark gets there.

Better when sung by pwopar pearly kings n queens

[ScottishGoon]

Stuck in my head the same way Baby Shark gets there.

To be fair, ‘pre match anthems’ aren’t always great if you really want to critique them, it’s just tradition has made them so. I mean, City have Blue Moon, West Ham have Bubbles etc. At least The Angel is a song about Islington and the surrounding area, it just doesn’t have the history that others have.
I wouldn’t ever dare critique You’ll Never Walk Alone given how it’s now entwined emotionally with the Liverpool fan base. Let’s just say as a Rangers fan it’s not my favourite song, but that’s nothing to do with Liverpool. 

[mattD]

Im sure Liverpool fans of all fans know just what your up against competing against Pep's Man City. Beating Man City over 38 games is probably the most difficult challenge in English football history. One, because Pep is an excellent manager and motivator. Two, City are likely cheating and giving an already elite manager an artificial leg up. I reckon even Ferguson would have been blanked by this City team under Pep. A team that could literally do back-to-back trebles.

How do you think you will go next year against City under Pep with Amorim as manager? Daunting isn't is?

Were fine with Arteta. We know just what we are up against, as do you. By the way, Emery was useless for us. Arteta has improved the football at Arsenal in ways Emery was never going to. And where were all the Emery lovers last week when they got slapped up by Spurs 4-0 at Villa park? Come to think of it, why didn't Liverpool make an attempt for Emery?

Ach to be fair, it's a fair point. Probably wrote that being more irked by the fact that they've also let City claim another fraudulent title.

Taking a step back, both Liverpool and Arsenal's losses at the weekend shouldn't rule them out of the title race. It should be a natural thing for teams to drop points but Man City have set unrealistic expectations due to their cheating. Unfortunately, mentally it does absolutely feel like both are out of it.

That is not a good look for the Premier League. As much as the broadcasters and media will do their best to write a Hollywood narrative and protect the brand for their viewing figures, the fact is the league would be more entertaining without Man City.

[Bullet500]

Emery won't do better with this squad than Arteta in the league. I did not want Emery out, but even when we were apparently good under Emery, our underlying numbers were not good.

Very good chance that Emery wins a European Cup at Liverpool if Liverpool hires him.

[farawayred]

Emery won't do better with this squad than Arteta in the league. I did not want Emery out, but even when we were apparently good under Emery, our underlying numbers were not good.

Very good chance that Emery wins a European Cup at Liverpool if Liverpool hires him.

I don't necessarily agree with your view on Emery. He arrived at yours in a transitional time, the club was in turmoil, and he wasn't given half the backing that Arteta has been afforded. I'm kinda glad you didn't have the patience with him...

[Bullet500]

I don't necessarily agree with your view on Emery. He arrived at yours in a transitional time, the club was in turmoil, and he wasn't given half the backing that Arteta has been afforded. I'm kinda glad you didn't have the patience with him...

Though Emery did not have complete control over signings (e.g., Pepe wasn't his choice), Arsenal spent around 70m and 90m net in the two summer transfer windows under him.

[farawayred]

Though Emery did not have complete control over signings (e.g., Pepe wasn't his choice), Arsenal spent around 70m and 90m net in the two summer transfer windows under him.

Arsenal spent decent amount of money in every window since Wenger left, but that's not the support that a manager needs. I'm on the outside, so I don't pretend to know, but it seemed that the club structure was not established, the manager didn't have the necessary input on players and style, and he definitely wasn't given enough time to stamp his image on the club. Could be wrong though...

[kloppismydad]

I hope Havertz scores tonight so I get to listen to his chant. Must be amongst my favourite ones these days.

[ScottishGoon]

I don't necessarily agree with your view on Emery. He arrived at yours in a transitional time, the club was in turmoil, and he wasn't given half the backing that Arteta has been afforded. I'm kinda glad you didn't have the patience with him...

As I said previously, Emery is a very good coach. However, what we’re seeing with Emery is people projecting rather than the reality. What he’s shown is that he’s a very good manager in European football, winning Europa League, getting to finals and even taking Villarreal to semi final of Champions League. However, in all his time as a manager, he’s never won a domestic competition outside of PSG, and anyone can make PSG win stuff, even Poch. And he’s never shown outside of Paris that he can win 28-30 games that’s needed to win the Premier League.

What we see is that he’s a very good tactician, as can be seen by his European record. This can translate to individual games in the Premier League, like we’ve seen from him vs Arsenal and Man City in the past. But we’ve also seen that from other coaches before. But getting that drive to you players, that level of consistency to get win after win after win, week after week, is very difficult to do in this league. Arteta has shown that he can get mighty close to it. Emery has not, so yeah, as much as I like Emery, I’m happy just now with Arteta.