Author Topic: MATCH PREVIEW – Arsenal FC vs Liverpool FC, Sunday Jan. 7, 2024 – 4:30PM  (Read 17076 times)

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Does this mean he suggested we’d be fielding a strong team?

Sounds like it yeah,

"“On cup competitions being an opportunity to use the squad…

I don’t know exactly but I think we rotated a lot in the first part of the season. I don’t think we were particularly brave or whatever, we just did it because we thought the boys can do it. It was not one game where we thought, ‘Ah, forget it, who cares how we play there?’ That never happens. I think that’s the main reason why the impact from the bench is like it was so far, because it’s massive for the boys who come on what they contribute and it’s really important. That’s only because they all have rhythm. If you bring a boy who didn’t play for five or six weeks, it’s very rare he can play to his best. That’s why so far I think we did that quite well.

But actually, I am not sure if Arsenal is now a game to rotate. I sit here, I don’t know 100 per cent if we have the opportunity to do so, to be honest, whatever it means. It’s not that we have the biggest squad available. We have players available and we can line a team up, 100 per cent, a good team. And I think that’s what we will do. If that looks then afterwards like rotation, I don’t know yet. We have six days between the games, 1st and 7th, that’s long and there’s no need for rotation.

You can say, OK, three days later we have another game. Yes, that’s true, but we can think about that game when the other game is over. That’s what we do usually. And both have the same importance, there is nothing in between. We want to win these games, we want to go to the [League Cup] final but we want to go to the next round [of the FA Cup] as well. But it is probably the most tricky draw you can get and it will be a tough one. The game here was a good one and let’s hope we can show a good performance there as well.”"

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Definitely sounds like he is going strong. Just hope we don't pick up anymore injuries.

Yeah agreed, going strong is probably the right action. Can't really blame Klopp if anyone picks up an injury. Fingers crossed everyone is fine, and we win.
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Im assuming based on the presser we'll go with something like this

Becker

Trent Konate Van Dijk Gomez

Harvey Macca Jones

Diaz? Nunez Jota




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From new thread on the travel board here...
Hope this is the correct board for this but anybody going to the FA Cup Tie against Arsenal on Sunday needs to watch out for the network shutting down early because of Strike Action on the London Underground

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61634959

Sunday 7 January

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*Edit* - Found a fuller discussion in the FA Cup Travel Thread - https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=351238.msg19229656#msg19229656
« Last Edit: January 5, 2024, 03:55:00 pm by Anthony »
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These shouts with Bradley, Beck, Chambers, Gordon - lots of posters on the fucking crack pipe over the holidays.  :o

Look at the last 7 years and tell me if you think Klopp likes our first teamers having a 10 day break between games? This will be close to full strength with only the GK and very unlikely the LB being anything resembling a reserve, but if anything I would expect Gomez to play this one and be rested on Wed at home to Fulham, if at all.

Dunno about lineups but lve got some excellent footage of him looking disappointed when we’ve equalised in early round fa cup games

More seriously hasn’t klopp always wanted a complete winter break?… so your 10 day point doesn’t stack up

Honestly I think he wrestles with what to do over this period of the season and especially the FA cup because of where it falls - his comments in that press conference read like hes doing it live
« Last Edit: January 5, 2024, 04:37:01 pm by JackWard33 »

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With no disrespect to Kelleher , if we start with Alisson and VVD (assuming he plays like he did vs the toon) then we are in with a shout, almost regardless of who else we field.

And for those not wanting a replay, if it does go back to Anfield can I have your ticket?
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Quite a few players haven't played huge amounts this season, or in recent games, so likely to get a relatively strong team regardless.

I'd like to see something like:

Kelleher
Gomez - Konate - Quansah - Beck
Jones - Mac - Gravenberch
Elliott - Darwin - Jota

Strong enough, while resting some key players and giving opportunities where warranted.

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Dunno about lineups but lve got some excellent footage of him looking disappointed when we’ve equalised in early round fa cup games

More seriously hasn’t klopp always wanted a complete winter break?… so your 10 day point doesn’t stack up

Honestly I think he wrestles with what to do over this period of the season and especially the FA cup because of where it falls - his comments in that press conference read like hes doing it live

Im sure he has, and we got 11 days after the Fulham game. I think leaving everyone out (our important players) and playing them against Fulham, before playing Bournemouth is too big of a gap for form and rhythm. The biggest thing for us is always been trying to get back into our groove after several weeks off.

That game against Bournemouth worries me, away, 11 days after Fulham, because we're at our best when we have rhythm and performing consistently.


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Trey Nyoni was part of #LFC first-team training today ahead of the FA Cup trip to Arsenal.

Owen Beck, Conor Bradley, Kaide Gordon, Bobby Clark, Luke Chambers and James McConnell also involved.

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With no disrespect to Kelleher , if we start with Alisson and VVD (assuming he plays like he did vs the toon) then we are in with a shout, almost regardless of who else we field.

And for those not wanting a replay, if it does go back to Anfield can I have your ticket?

It always makes more sense to play your best keeper, especially if there's changes elsewhere. If he played both young lads at full back against an attacking team like Arsenal and then stuck a weaker goalie in we could be on the end of a disappointing scoreline. I see no reason why Alisson needs a rest either. Klopp has often mentioned the FA Cup as being Alisson's competition whereas the League Cup is when Kelleher plays. Although Kelleher did play in the replay against Wolves last season.
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It always makes more sense to play your best keeper, especially if there's changes elsewhere. If he played both young lads at full back against an attacking team like Arsenal and then stuck a weaker goalie in we could be on the end of a disappointing scoreline. I see no reason why Alisson needs a rest either. Klopp has often mentioned the FA Cup as being Alisson's competition whereas the League Cup is when Kelleher plays. Although Kelleher did play in the replay against Wolves last season.
allison playing wolves last year was the exception i thought, not the other way round

i'd be astounded if kelleher didn't start. it's how backup keepers work/are retained/are kept relatively sharp/ready

am sure we'll face ramsdale too, as much as some poeple think arteta will play his first team.

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allison playing wolves last year was the exception i thought, not the other way round

i'd be astounded if kelleher didn't start. it's how backup keepers work/are retained/are kept relatively sharp/ready

am sure we'll face ramsdale too, as much as some poeple think arteta will play his first team.

In the League Cup Kelleher has always played regardless of who we got. In the FA Cup I think it's depended on the opposition. He played against Shrewsbury and Cardiff when we won it a couple of years back, but Alisson played against the bigger sides. I can see Kelleher playing but given we're playing one of the best few sides around and have to make changes elsewhere I just don't see why Alisson shouldn't play. If Kelleher comes in and drops a clanger I think he still sticks with him for Fulham. If it was up to me I'd probably go the other way around and play him on Sunday and Ali in the Fulham semis, but then again I've just never been a fan of the cup goalkeeper stuff. I do like Kelleher though.
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Does this mean he suggested we’d be fielding a strong team?

yes

he said no issues with players playing sunday then again on wednesday

at the moment there is no game next weekend , but that could change if this fa cup game needs a replay

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That's a superb OP Jm mate, thank you.
I share your love for the FA Cup.

It will be interesting to see what squad will be named and it's probably best that a weakened side is played given that we have an important semi-final midweek and we have a few injuries.
There'll always be a chance we could snatch it. I'm certain Jurgen and indeed Arteta will not want a replay but it wouldn't half be a cracking match back at Anfield, weakened teams again and an opportunity for youth and experience to set the stadium alight.

Lets try to stay in the hat, Reds.











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It always makes more sense to play your best keeper, especially if there's changes elsewhere. If he played both young lads at full back against an attacking team like Arsenal and then stuck a weaker goalie in we could be on the end of a disappointing scoreline. I see no reason why Alisson needs a rest either. Klopp has often mentioned the FA Cup as being Alisson's competition whereas the League Cup is when Kelleher plays. Although Kelleher did play in the replay against Wolves last season.
We need to keep Kelleher motivated and reasonably sharp, otherwise he will change clubs
Already a pretty ungrateful job to be backup for Alisson

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It's a situation where we have to field a stronger team, even if with a little rotation.

It's a  big competition, against a big team, we have to respect our own selves at that. Fielding a weak team in this situation sends out the wrong message, almost that we already know we're going to lose so we might as well not try that hard.

If we do get knocked out then it wouldn't be the end of the world, really. We've won the Fa Cup recently, we're seeing signs of a title challenge, there are other very much more attainable cups in the horizon, we could do without the effort put out for the FA Cup.

Go strong. If we go through, awesome. If we get knocked out, it's not the end of the world, it never is.
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Jurgen said in his presser:

"A rematch with Arsenal just wouldn't be helpful. It wouldn't fit in with the winter break, stuff like this."
The change is cast

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Arsenal are having a wobble at the moment. Massive pressure on them to deliver a result.  Winning on Sunday is a lot more than a place in the fourth round, the psychological damage of defeat may well break them.

So we go as strong as possible.   
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Hope this is the correct board for this but anybody going to the FA Cup Tie against Arsenal on Sunday needs to watch out for the network shutting down early because of Strike Action on the London Underground

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61634959

Sunday 7 January

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*Edit* - Found a fuller discussion in the FA Cup Travel Thread - https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=351238.msg19229656#msg19229656

Don’t know how you guys and gals do it. Getting back from London on a Sunday night and after the Christmas hols paying a shit load of money also. Well done.
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Arsenal are having a wobble at the moment. Massive pressure on them to deliver a result.  Winning on Sunday is a lot more than a place in the fourth round, the psychological damage of defeat may well break them.

So we go as strong as possible.

The league game in a few weeks is much bigger and the cup game doesn't necessarily have any bearing. I remember in 13/14 Arsenal knocked us out the cup and we stuffed them in the league shortly after.

I think going deep in 4 comps will catch up with us and the other 3 have opened for us with a chance to win them. Arsenal progressing in the cup also adds to their load as they looked leggy in recent games with little rotation this season.

If we want to go for all 4 then we need to be strengthening the squad this month.
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I don't remember the context of the 13/14 game, but arsenal are wobbling right now. I know many have written them off as title contenders, but another push to dent their confidence further can only help us now.
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Is VAR involved here or is it like the League Cup where its only used for a semi?  (not that kind ! )
Anyway, reckon and hope we go strong. A lot of people seem to have forgotten over the last 12 months that we're a better team that Arsenal are, wee reminder of that would do nicely and set us up for a nice wee 2024

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The league game in a few weeks is much bigger and the cup game doesn't necessarily have any bearing. I remember in 13/14 Arsenal knocked us out the cup and we stuffed them in the league shortly after.

I think going deep in 4 comps will catch up with us and the other 3 have opened for us with a chance to win them. Arsenal progressing in the cup also adds to their load as they looked leggy in recent games with little rotation this season.

If we want to go for all 4 then we need to be strengthening the squad this month.

Was the other way round, the 5-1 was the week before the cup match.

Owen Beck can’t feature according to Pearce due to a suspension picked up in the Scottish league.

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Is VAR involved here or is it like the League Cup where its only used for a semi?  (not that kind ! )
Anyway, reckon and hope we go strong. A lot of people seem to have forgotten over the last 12 months that we're a better team that Arsenal are, wee reminder of that would do nicely and set us up for a nice wee 2024
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yes

he said no issues with players playing sunday then again on wednesday

at the moment there is no game next weekend , but that could change if this fa cup game needs a replay
the replay will be midweek I would have thought, 16th or 17th January, which would fuck our winter break up for sure. Klopp might then do like he did against the Bitters a few years ago, when Curtis scored and we won 1-0 with a completely 2nd string side, to prove a point about having to play a fixture during the winter break
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Just win and put us in the hat for the next round.

Fwiw...stat from LFCTV... the last time we won away in the FA Cup at Arsenal was 1964.
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Owen Beck can’t feature according to Pearce due to a suspension picked up in the Scottish league.
well thats a shitter. and fucking stupid too, why should that matter.

fuck it, play him anyway - he gets the experience, we get the guaranteed 'winter break' ;)

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Hope this is the correct board for this but anybody going to the FA Cup Tie against Arsenal on Sunday needs to watch out for the network shutting down early because of Strike Action on the London Underground

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61634959

Sunday 7 January

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https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/strikes?intcmp=35779

Sunday 7 January: Tube services will close earlier than normal. Customers are advised to complete Tube journeys by 17:30


*Edit* - Found a fuller discussion in the FA Cup Travel Thread - https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=351238.msg19229656#msg19229656


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allison playing wolves last year was the exception i thought, not the other way round

i'd be astounded if kelleher didn't start. it's how backup keepers work/are retained/are kept relatively sharp/ready .

Normally, maybe, but Kelleher does have Europe and a long run in the league cup this season. I'd be surprised if Allison didn't at least get the big games in the FA cup, with this being one of them.

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Think we’ll go fairly strong, as we should just hope no replay to be honest.

Would like to see Quansah, Elliott and Jota start.

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Just win and put us in the hat for the next round.

Fwiw...stat from LFCTV... the last time we won away in the FA Cup at Arsenal was 1964.

How many games in that time? Only remember 01/02 and 13/14, plus a semi against Portsmouth!

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Normally, maybe, but Kelleher does have Europe and a long run in the league cup this season. I'd be surprised if Allison didn't at least get the big games in the FA cup, with this being one of them.

Yes, normally Alisson had PL and CL, with Kelleher in the domestic cups, but this time Kelleher's playing in the EL, so I'd expect Alisson to feature in the FA Cup. Especially now that we have just one PL game in 30 days.

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If Allison isn't going to be a sub for the next two games, I hope that the game he plays in is the semi final. We have a trophy to go for there. And a great first leg result earns potential rest/rotation options for the second leg
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Owen Beck can’t feature according to Pearce due to a suspension picked up in the Scottish league.

Pearce is saying that suspensions carry across different leagues?

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We need to keep Kelleher motivated and reasonably sharp, otherwise he will change clubs
Already a pretty ungrateful job to be backup for Alisson

I don't see how you couldn't already be motivated by being a number 2 keeper at this club and playing as many times as he has this season. Regardless of tomorrow he'll definitely play in both legs against Fulham and the final if we make it. Tomorrow as much as I want us to win (and it might not hinge on what goalkeeper plays) I'm okay with him playing, but as far as the goalkeeping position this season goes I'm hoping Alisson plays the European knockouts as he was the one who basically put us in the competition in the first place.
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While it doesn’t mean he’ll play here, Kelleher isn’t necessarily going to be playing in Europe anymore now we’re in the knock out rounds. he played all the way to the final in the League Cup previously though so will probably play Weds.

On balance I think it’s more likely Alisson plays here
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This game will be entertaining if it’s 1-1 with 10 to go
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I thnik our players will have one eye on the Semi Final next week.  And the league game at the Emirates in a few weeks is more important, no point going full out.