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They are playing very well here.

A billion pound team playing well against Brighton.

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A billion pound team playing well against Brighton.

loving the insight  :P

Okay.

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To be fair, Brighton are the perfect team for the like of us and City.  Passing out from the back ... all you need to do is press them and they fold.

They're high in the table but I'd much rather play them than the Burnleys and Palace's of the world.

Dont really think Brighton are perfect for us, they are a real pain in the ass to play against.

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Dont really think Brighton are perfect for us, they are a real pain in the ass to play against.
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Don’t watch mainstream football media - does it still think they need a striker??!!  …. As they stomp all over everyone in the league but us

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Don’t watch mainstream football media - does it still think they need a striker??!!  …. As they stomp all over everyone in the league but us

The next time they drop points it will be back on the agenda, but it’s nonsense really.

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Lets pay the media to justify our low attendances.  ;)

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Lets pay the media to justify our low attendances.  ;)

Its all about football tourists.....

That's a laughably brilliant piece.

So essentially games finish too late for fans with children (same for all teams).

It's difficult to get back to the city centre (same for all teams).

People are worried about money/Covid (same for all teams).

My personal favourites "there's no jeopardy" (0 Champions League/European cups suggest an element of jeopardy)

And.... they don't have as many fans......

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Don’t watch mainstream football media - does it still think they need a striker??!!  …. As they stomp all over everyone in the league but us

Apart from Spurs, Southampton, Leicester and Chelsea so far out of their 9 games.
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Apart from Spurs, Southampton, Leicester and Chelsea so far out of their 9 games.

No idea if you're trolling / fishing whatever ... (which is an evergreen thought when I read your posts in fairness :))


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No idea if you're trolling / fishing whatever ... (which is an evergreen thought when I read your posts in fairness :))

What was difficult to understand....? :)

You said they're stomping all over everyone in the league but us.....they're not. They've stomped all over Brighton, Burnley, Arsenal and Norwich. They lost to Spurs when they had more shots than Spurs, drew to Southampton when they had one shot on target, narrowly beat Leicester when they had a shitload of shots on target and narrowly beat Chelsea. I'm not quite sure why you think pointing out that they haven't 'stomped all over everyone in the league but us' would be trolling? Its just patently not true.

The mainstream football media has had other stuff to moan about recently though, but it might get back to thinking they need a striker when they next drop points (which has happened in a third of their games this season) and of course.....they spent the summer trying to sign a striker.
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What was difficult to understand....? :)

You said they're stomping all over everyone in the league but us.....they're not. They've stomped all over Brighton, Burnley, Arsenal and Norwich. They lost to Spurs when they had more shots than Spurs, drew to Southampton when they had one shot on target, narrowly beat Leicester when they had a shitload of shots on target and narrowly beat Chelsea. I'm not quite sure why you think pointing out that they haven't 'stomped all over everyone in the league but us' would be trolling? Its just patently not true.



Ah okay - assuming you didnt watch these games in that case?

The only one they weren't completely dominant in was vs Southampton - which was a weird showing from them all round, maybe they were fatigued dunno
The other 3 you cited were one way contests and the Chelsea performance was objectively one of the better performances by a PL team in recent years taking the quality of opposition into account
Their attack isn't as potent as its been in some of Guardiola's years but its still putting up v strong numbers and they're suffocating teams to ridiculous levels for example Chelsea (almost certainly the 3rd best team in the league) put up 0.3xg at home, while chasing the game

It's not being reported like this because the league table doesn't show it yet as extremely as performance in the games but us and them are about as dominant as its possible to be in one of the big 5 leagues so far this season   

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Ah okay - assuming you didnt watch these games in that case?

The only one they weren't completely dominant in was vs Southampton - which was a weird showing from them all round, maybe they were fatigued dunno
The other 3 you cited were one way contests and the Chelsea performance was objectively one of the better performances by a PL team in recent years taking the quality of opposition into account
Their attack isn't as potent as its been in some of Guardiola's years but its still putting up v strong numbers and they're suffocating teams to ridiculous levels for example Chelsea (almost certainly the 3rd best team in the league) put up 0.3xg at home, while chasing the game

It's not being reported like this because the league table doesn't show it yet as extremely as performance in the games but us and them are about as dominant as its possible to be in one of the big 5 leagues so far this season

I'm ever so confused.

Your point seemed to be (correct me if I'm wrong....) that the media have shut up about them signing a striker, because they don't need one, because they're battering everyone. Right? They're not. And frankly in quite a few of those games that they have dropped points in or only narrowly won they may well have done better with a striker. Do you think they'd have beaten Southampton or Spurs if they'd had Harry Kane?
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I'm ever so confused.

Your point seemed to be (correct me if I'm wrong....) that the media have shut up about them signing a striker, because they don't need one, because they're battering everyone. Right? They're not. And frankly in quite a few of those games that they have dropped points in or only narrowly won they may well have done better with a striker. Do you think they'd have beaten Southampton or Spurs if they'd had Harry Kane?

I was genuinely asking if the media are still talking about them needing another striker because I don't know if they are or not.

They are pretty much battering everyone based on their performances and numbers - we seem disagree on that point so we're probably not going to agree on what they should be trying to do from here


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I watched the Chelsea-City game and they absolutely battered Chelsea. 1-0 flattered Chelsea.

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I watched the Chelsea-City game and they absolutely battered Chelsea. 1-0 flattered Chelsea.

Yeah i caught a fair bit of that, they hammered chelsea. Chelsea are a bit of a weird one at the minute, I wonder if they're due a regression as they've got bloody lucky in a lot of games now. I'm a believer that you earn your luck but they're stretching that at this point. City still the team to beat.
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It's a strange one because you'd imagine some of the games they have struggled to score in would be quite different with a finisher of Kane's capabilities. But then again, would they dominate the game way they did against Chelsea and Leicester if he was up top.

Even the first half against us would have most likely produced a goal for them with a proper striker but they do control games partly because of a lack of one.

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Yeah i caught a fair bit of that, they hammered chelsea. Chelsea are a bit of a weird one at the minute, I wonder if they're due a regression as they've got bloody lucky in a lot of games now. I'm a believer that you earn your luck but they're stretching that at this point. City still the team to beat.

I still think they are going into the mid-80's at least for points and will challenge (kind of like how Mourinho's Chelsea got along in 13-14) but they are turgid to watch and their underlying numbers that others have posted are not a surprise when you watch them.

City look really, really good though and right now the league really looks set for them to post a mammoth points total. By the time they play United in 2 games time they will have played away at all the top current top 7 bar West Ham and we will be in early November. They are going to be really tough to stop.

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It's a strange one because you'd imagine some of the games they have struggled to score in would be quite different with a finisher of Kane's capabilities. But then again, would they dominate the game way they did against Chelsea and Leicester if he was up top.

Even the first half against us would have most likely produced a goal for them with a proper striker but they do control games partly because of a lack of one.

The game against us was the perfect example of this imo. That first half the way they squeezed us was by having 6 technical skillful midfielders or forwards just coming onto us in waves. They were very press resistant and we just couldn't get a foothold in the game [not helped, its' worth saying, by Trent's absence]. They don't do that with a conventional striker - Kane, Haaland, Aguero, whoever as they are more direct. It's impossible to say what would work better for them really, but I don't think I've ever seen them control a game againts us so comprehensively as that first half. I think it may leave them a bit toothless occasionally, but on the whole they gain more than they lose.
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It's a strange one because you'd imagine some of the games they have struggled to score in would be quite different with a finisher of Kane's capabilities. But then again, would they dominate the game way they did against Chelsea and Leicester if he was up top.

Even the first half against us would have most likely produced a goal for them with a proper striker but they do control games partly because of a lack of one.

Us probably not.

Chelsea literally set up for a 0-0. They were dominating that regardless of having a striker or not. Leicester I think probably the same, its how Rodgers sets up against good teams. And Southampton is a no brainer. And again Spurs I suspect with someone actually willing to have a crack at goal they would have at least drawn.
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The game against us was the perfect example of this imo. That first half the way they squeezed us was by having 6 technical skillful midfielders or forwards just coming onto us in waves. They were very press resistant and we just couldn't get a foothold in the game [not helped, its' worth saying, by Trent's absence]. They don't do that with a conventional striker - Kane, Haaland, Aguero, whoever as they are more direct. It's impossible to say what would work better for them really, but I don't think I've ever seen them control a game againts us so comprehensively as that first half. I think it may leave them a bit toothless occasionally, but on the whole they gain more than they lose.

Good post - the essence of it

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Can't wait for Pep to be praised tonight for "taking the competition seriously" when he makes a load of changes and still fields a team worth £300m.
It’s bizarre. Other managers get slated for playing the reserves. Pep does exactly the same, but because his reserve team cost £500m he is praised for taking the competition seriously. Nobody in the media can grasp this fact either. Sick of the way most of the media gives these cheating twats a free pass despite them all knowing what they are.

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Just been reading about the new transfer scandal in Italian football where clubs have been falsely inflating transfer fees to balance the books. Sounds like something right up Man City’s street. Would not been surprised at all if their name is mentioned in it soon.

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It’s bizarre. Other managers get slated for playing the reserves. Pep does exactly the same, but because his reserve team cost £500m he is praised for taking the competition seriously. Nobody in the media can grasp this fact either. Sick of the way most of the media gives these cheating twats a free pass despite them all knowing what they are.

It just keeps the merry-go-round going round. Equating "City" with everyone else means .... they've got a better product, most competitive league etc etc ... I'm guessing this. In reality I couldn't care less about them or what they win unless it actively affects us in some way (as it has twice in the league) A non-entity of a club usurped by a financial superpower. It is inevitable they win trophies, they have 2 teams full of internationals ... indeed they have a first 11 of fullbacks alone. Shame they are around really.

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Their side today in a league cup game cost over £600m. Crazy.

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They finally get drawn against a decent team and they're out.

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You know you’ve completely lost interest in a cup when you actually don’t think it’s funny when a rival gets knocked out

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Was that the first tough away they’ve had in any cup comp in recent times? They don’t like it up em

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You know you’ve completely lost interest in a cup when you actually don’t think it’s funny when a rival gets knocked out

I’d rather they had the fixtures to be honest

The extra fixtures wouldn't have affected then though, what with them having two quality teams.

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Their side today in a league cup game cost over £600m. Crazy.

yep.

Ours by comparison about £180m (starting lineup was about £70m).

I know, they had premier league opponent, but even so, it makes no odds, it’s always the same with Guardiola, in fact, the money he’s spent on that team, it’s hard for them not to have a ridiculously expensive team out, and he doen’t tend to give chances to too many youngsters.
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Their Blockbusters away kit lettering can fuck off as well