Topic: UFC/MMA thread

[John C]

Not making any excuses for those tweets but is it just those two tweets? Not enough for me to say he's a racist.

I don't follow him or MMA, only interested in when he actually fights.
Whats all that about mate? What did he tweet?

[rocco]

I don't follow him or MMA, only interested in when he actually fights.
Whats all that about mate? What did he tweet?

Think

Pimblett's tweet, which had been a response to a fan, said "Lad how stupid are these Georgians man?" Alongside a series of crying laughing emojis, before adding "No wonder the Russians terrorise their lives".

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I don't follow him or MMA, only interested in when he actually fights.
Whats all that about mate? What did he tweet?

Anti immigration stuff, he's old enough to know better

[SouthDerryLaggo]

Think

Pimblett's tweet, which had been a response to a fan, said "Lad how stupid are these Georgians man?" Alongside a series of crying laughing emojis, before adding "No wonder the Russians terrorise their lives".

Jesus Christ

[AlphaDelta]

Don't like the kid, not one bit.

[Pistolero]

Excellent submission by Pimblett....and hats off to him for staying focussed over the last few days....it was clear from his post-fight reaction that he's been floored by whats happened...

[B0151?]

Not having that, I'm Irish, I lived in Liverpool for a long time and was greeted with open arms barring a few mingebags, and always saw racism and xenophobic behaviour challenged if it ever occurred in pubs or clubs I was in, so Pimblett needs to be aware of where he's from.

I just don't think two ignorant tweets are enough to write someone off as a racist and attack anyone who supports him. Agree with your post though and happy that's been your experience, although Merseyside is still a place with more than a few areas that voted for Brexit and also in my experience still plenty of ignorant c*nts, although I do think it's improving.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I just don't think two ignorant tweets are enough to write someone off as a racist and attack anyone who supports him. Agree with your post though and happy that's been your experience, although Merseyside is still a place with more than a few areas that voted for Brexit and also in my experience still plenty of ignorant c*nts, although I do think it's improving.

How did I attack anyone who supports him?, as I said he's won well tonight, but if you tweet like that you're quite clearly a racist.

[B0151?]

How did I attack anyone who supports him?, as I said he's won well tonight, but if you tweet like that you're quite clearly a racist.

Was not referring to you mate.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Was not referring to you mate.

OK mate fair enough.

[jackh]

Know someone related to his girlfriend and he is meant to be a mad kid but lovely and generous lad if you know him.

Can't see any reason to doubt this.

Good win , seems a right  character

And this is clear.

Don't like the kid, not one bit.

But I can't help but feel like this. Can't stand all the social-media deifying of him, based on what seems largely like crowd-pleasing sloganeering.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Can't see any reason to doubt this.

And this is clear.

But I can't help but feel like this. Can't stand all the social-media deifying of him, based on what seems largely like crowd-pleasing sloganeering.

Yeah, the UFC are quite clearly grooming him as a future star, so hopefully they'll match him up accordingly next time around.

[jonnypb]

I just don't think two ignorant tweets are enough to write someone off as a racist and attack anyone who supports him. Agree with your post though and happy that's been your experience, although Merseyside is still a place with more than a few areas that voted for Brexit and also in my experience still plenty of ignorant c*nts, although I do think it's improving.

Tbf it was more than 2 tweets and then he came out and defended the tweets saying that they weren’t racist views, rather than holding his hands up and apologising.

It’s a shame because those tweets aside, him and molly do a lot of good for parts of the city with the homeless, food banks etc.

[kesey]

I only ever heard of him a few days after the final in Paris as I seen his youtube thing on what happened after the match . His post fight speech tonight was fucking spot on about his mate and men should talk more about their woes as I know a few that didn't and are no longer here . I reckon he's sound .  What's this stuff about him being a rascist then as I don't have a clue what youse are on about . If anyone could enlighten us on it so I can then form my own opinion on it. Thanks.

[John C]

a racist , even saw videos during the week there of him being a wanker with bouncers in Liverpool City centre,

As some one who is not on twitter at all, I haven't got a clue who says anything about our players never mind the discussion about Paddy - I'm just genuinely interested in his fighting career.

But that all paints a grim picture which I'm inclined to make a judgement about.

So do people think this is true or exaggerated?

[Fazak_Red]

His views were no different from what your average working class scouser is like to be honest.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

As some one who is not on twitter at all, I haven't got a clue who says anything about our players never mind the discussion about Paddy - I'm just genuinely interested in his fighting career.

But that all paints a grim picture which I'm inclined to make a judgement about.

So do people think this is true or exaggerated?

He posted the tweets a few years back, and they were clearly wrong, yeah you could have made a case for it being a one off, as he's such a young fella, but he literally doubled down on it.

[SouthDerryLaggo]

Got attacked on twitter for suggesting the racism. “He’s speaking facts” etc so I’d be inclined to agree it’s maybe a commonly held view among working class scousers. I’m obviously not one but speak as a citizen of a country than sent as many immigrants round the world per head of population than most likely any other country and I just don’t agree with him and think he’s being a c*nt. He’s forcing the scouse thing almost as a character rather than himself.

[DangerScouse]

https://www.benchwarmers.ie/van-dijk-criticised-over-paddy-pimblett/248509/

Lads, read the tweets, unequovocally xenophobic. Can't be defended.

[Redbonnie]

He’s a better fighter than I thought he was .. very flexible. Ricky is the lad in Huyton who threw himself under a train. He looked genuinely gutted over him.

[gazzalfc]

Horrible way for a main event to go

[jonnypb]

That’s unfortunate, was looking forward to this. Seems to have done a lot of damage to his knee.

[amir87]

What a shame. Most likely an ACL.

[jackh]

He’s a better fighter than I thought he was .. very flexible. Ricky is the lad in Huyton who threw himself under a train. He looked genuinely gutted over him.

Agreed, having seen his post-fight interview. He spoke well and I think everyone can get behind what he said.

Probably fair to say that my post above and some of the others are more general comments about a perception of him built up over recent years. Had I seen his post-match comments before posting, I'd probably not have posted the above tonight.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

What a shame for Aspinall, one of my favourite competitors in UFC, even Blaydes seems apologetic.

[I've been a good boy]

This doesn't look good

[Barneylfc∗]

His views were no different from what your average working class scouser is like to be honest.

Wow

[Flaccido Dongingo]

His views were no different from what your average working class scouser is like to be honest.

I'm sorry what?, I'm not a Scouser but I do know that the majority of the people I encountered while living in the area absolutely do not hold these views.

[NightDancer]

His views were no different from what your average working class scouser is like to be honest.

I sincerely hope not.

[Jm55]

He’s perhaps not the smartest with his use of social media, he’s quite clearly targeted by people winding him up and he bites a lot of the time. He seems part of this toxic side of social media whereby people involved in the toxic behaviour always blame other people whilst continuously reacting to it rather than reporting or blocking the individuals.

That said, the tweets people are quoting are over 3 years old, they’re not great at all, but I’m not a fan of digging up things people posted on social media years ago. He does a lot of good work for a lot of good causes (not least his comments this evening) and whilst that is no excuse for racism, it does make me inclined to believe that the comments were misplaced rather than illustrative of him holding racist beliefs.

[Spezialo]

Everyone hates Paddy but loves Alisson Becker even though he supports Bolsonaro?

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I sincerely hope not.

In my experience, not, I lived (for a while) in Chepstow Street just off County Road when I got my first job out of Uni, and that was 20 years ago and I can't remember much, if any racism.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Everyone hates Paddy but loves Alisson Becker even though he supports Bolsonaro?

You're really reaching here fella.

[capt k]

Tbf it was more than 2 tweets and then he came out and defended the tweets saying that they weren’t racist views, rather than holding his hands up and apologising.

It’s a shame because those tweets aside, him and molly do a lot of good for parts of the city with the homeless, food banks etc.

looks like he did hold his hands up, and his apology was accepted

"Lad, I didn't even know that! I just thought that Guram dude looked like a poor man's Khabib. So called him a fake Russian. I literally had no idea they took offense to it, then they all went mad," he added.

    "I would like the Georgian people to understand that I had no idea about the history between Georgia and Russia. I'm a fighter, not a historian or politician. I didn't know what had gone. The people seem to think I said it with malice when I had no idea of the past," said Pimblett.

"It's very easy to tweet something stupid and then delete it the moment your *ss gets burned. However, it takes real courage to publicly apologize to the people you have offended just because you wanted to get under somebody's skin, Paddy Pimblett," wrote Jojua.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

looks like he did hold his hands up, and his apology was accepted

"Lad, I didn't even know that! I just thought that Guram dude looked like a poor man's Khabib. So called him a fake Russian. I literally had no idea they took offense to it, then they all went mad," he added.

    "I would like the Georgian people to understand that I had no idea about the history between Georgia and Russia. I'm a fighter, not a historian or politician. I didn't know what had gone. The people seem to think I said it with malice when I had no idea of the past," said Pimblett.

"It's very easy to tweet something stupid and then delete it the moment your *ss gets burned. However, it takes real courage to publicly apologize to the people you have offended just because you wanted to get under somebody's skin, Paddy Pimblett," wrote Jojua.

I hadn't seen anything about this, but if he has put his hands up and admitted he was wrong then fair fucks.

[jonnypb]

looks like he did hold his hands up, and his apology was accepted

"Lad, I didn't even know that! I just thought that Guram dude looked like a poor man's Khabib. So called him a fake Russian. I literally had no idea they took offense to it, then they all went mad," he added.

    "I would like the Georgian people to understand that I had no idea about the history between Georgia and Russia. I'm a fighter, not a historian or politician. I didn't know what had gone. The people seem to think I said it with malice when I had no idea of the past," said Pimblett.

"It's very easy to tweet something stupid and then delete it the moment your *ss gets burned. However, it takes real courage to publicly apologize to the people you have offended just because you wanted to get under somebody's skin, Paddy Pimblett," wrote Jojua.

Don’t think he apologised for the other shit that he retweeted about different topics that people posted and other things he said about immigrants, in fact he came out and tweeted afterwards that his views weren’t racist when he was called out about what he said.

He said some good things after the fight tonight about mental health and it’s probably best that we focus on those points rather than dragging stuff up from the past because too many people suffer in silence and are afraid/ashamed to get help, especially men.

[leinad]

What a shame. Most likely an ACL.

Doctor said to Bisping it's most likely his mcl because of how much pain he was in.

[Barneylfc∗]

He addressed these a few months back  Confirmed he's still a Nigel Frottage-lite piece of shit.

[Jm55]

He addressed these a few months back  Confirmed he's still a Nigel Frottage-lite piece of shit.

2 of those 3 tweets are from 2019 to be fair.

I don’t think he’s racist, I just think he’s incredibly naive with his usage of social media and gets drawn into these arguments all the time.

The stuff from 2019 is clearly not great, not convinced it makes him akin to Frottage though, hopefully I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt too much there.

[Eeyore]

2 of those 3 tweets are from 2019 to be fair.

I don’t think he’s racist, I just think he’s incredibly naive with his usage of social media and gets drawn into these arguments all the time.

The stuff from 2019 is clearly not great, not convinced it makes him akin to Frottage though, hopefully I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt too much there.

It is a million miles away from Frottage. Frottage is a well-educated man who deliberately creates the false narrative that people like Pimblett believe and repeat.