Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD - 2023 (FSG posts = get muted) - No Mbappé

[JackWard33]

I will never understand why people are making posts like this ...

Are we allowed to post this under your relentless macallister heat maps or Bellingham's tax free wage posts?

[PeterTheRed ...]

The net is not a lot for a team like us.

What about the wage bill? Or that is not important, because it doesn't suit your agenda ...

[MonsLibpool]

What about the wage bill? Or that is not important, because it doesn't suit your agenda ...

Are we obliged to let out-of-favour players run down their contracts?

[PeterTheRed ...]

Are we obliged to let out-of-favour players run down their contracts?

Of course we are. You do understand that contracts work both ways, don't you?

[Samie]

It is okay to dream, Dream as much as you want.

[MonsLibpool]

Of course we are. You do understand that contracts work both ways, don't you?

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[PeterTheRed ...]

Are we allowed to post this under your relentless macallister heat maps or Bellingham's tax free wage posts?

You can always ignore me, like I am ignoring you most of the time ...

[PeterTheRed ...]

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Well, I suppose on Football Manager you can sell players without their consent ...

[MonsLibpool]

Well, I suppose on Football Manager you can sell players without their consent ...

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[Avens]

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Obliged is maybe a stretch, but he has a point. If a player wants to see out their contract they can. I can see why someone would want to stick around for as long as possible to be honest.

[G Richards]

Lavia all depends. If we are keeping Fabinho, it makes sense. In time one will usurp the other. If we are looking to replace Fabinho, we need someone who is a bit further along. The athletic gifts are there with Lavia, and I can see his plus points, but the nous and experience is not there yet, much less the consistency that comes with more maturity.

Lavia for tomorrow, plus two midfielders for today, would be more than fine by me.

Plus a left sided central defender - Colwill, Inacio, Van de Ven, Guehi - have all been linked.

After Salah’s comments after missing out on CL football, I think that’s one to watch, too.

[Dave McCoy]

This new WM system has the 8's as basically free 8's where we need more attacking output than we would want in the older more rigid setup. Bajcetic so far has not indicated that would be a role suited for him. So again, how does Lavia make any sense unless you're already giving up on Bajcetic?

[wemmick]

This new WM system has the 8's as basically free 8's where we need more attacking output than we would want in the older more rigid setup. Bajcetic so far has not indicated that would be a role suited for him. So again, how does Lavia make any sense unless you're already giving up on Bajcetic?

We probably need 4 DMs for playing in the Europa and domestic cups next season. Lavia and Baj to rotate with Fabinho and Trent. We'll need their legs to do a lot of defensive work.

[Samie]

Fuckin' Hell! 4 DM's now. 

[red mongoose]

Times saying us and Chelsea are in for Lavia.

https://twitter.com/TimesSport/status/1661817232291143680

40 million, get to fuck.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Fuckin' Hell! 4 DM's now. 

Just make a buddy list. You can block everyone from messaging ya cept ya closest friends on here

You might not get as many women as Mason Mount sliding in anymore but lets keep you safe buddy first and foremost

Also, theres always Onlyfans if ya wanna give ya Fans content

[spider-neil]

40 million, get to fuck.

Of course it’s going to be 40 million. If it’s lower Southampton may as well wait a year and sell back to City.

[Knight]

The mooted prices of pretty average players continue to make our cheap skate backing out on Bellingham look bizarre.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Lavia all depends. If we are keeping Fabinho, it makes sense. In time one will usurp the other. If we are looking to replace Fabinho, we need someone who is a bit further along. The athletic gifts are there with Lavia, and I can see his plus points, but the nous and experience is not there yet, much less the consistency that comes with more maturity.

Lavia for tomorrow, plus two midfielders for today, would be more than fine by me.

Plus a left sided central defender - Colwill, Inacio, Van de Ven, Guehi - have all been linked.

After Salah’s comments after missing out on CL football, I think that’s one to watch, too.

Yeah, I would expect something like this:

Left sided central defender - Inacio
Defensive midfielder - Lavia
Central midfielder - Mac Allister
Attacking midfielder/forward - Szoboszlai

That would improve all the areas of the team, as Jurgen suggested the other day, at a reasonable price in terms of transfer fees and wages ...

[Avens]

Yeah, I would expect something like this:

Left sided central defender - Inacio
Defensive midfielder - Lavia
Central midfielder - Mac Allister
Attacking midfielder/forward - Szoboszlai

That would improve all the areas of the team, as Jurgen suggested the other day, at a reasonable price in terms of transfer fees and wages ...

I'll ask again, as nobody responded last time have there been any links to Szoboszlai at all?

[PeterTheRed ...]

I'll ask again, as nobody responded last time have there been any links to Szoboszlai at all?

https://twitter.com/fjonberg/status/1661334488578654210

[royhendo]

He will be on £350,000 per week after tax at Real Madrid. I doubt that anyone at the club has expected that Bellingham and his father will demand that much ...

Which begs the question, why didn’t anyone make anyone at the club drink the Kool Aid?

[spider-neil]

Yeah, I would expect something like this:

Left sided central defender - Inacio
Defensive midfielder - Lavia
Central midfielder - Mac Allister
Attacking midfielder/forward - Szoboszlai

That would improve all the areas of the team, as Jurgen suggested the other day, at a reasonable price in terms of transfer fees and wages ...

For me, this would be a good summer. That lot is going to cost at least over 150m with no CL we’d have to make sales and be clever. For instance, selling Morton to Southampton would significantly reduce the Lavia fee.

Also with greater fitness (a proper preseason) the likes of Nunez and Gakpo bedded in and hopefully better luck with injuries (Thiago, Diaz and Baj) will see us kick on.

[spider-neil]

The mooted prices of pretty average players continue to make our cheap skate backing out on Bellingham look bizarre.

The fee
The agents costs
The wages

Made this deal prohibitive and wouldn’t have left a lot left over for anyone else.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Which begs the question, why didn’t anyone make anyone at the club drink the Kool Aid?

Of course, we can't know for sure, but I think that Bellingham's wage demands were put forward to our club after Real Madrid have made their wage offer. That was probably the reason why we have pulled out of the deal so abruptly ...

[Clint Eastwood]

Lavia would be a great way to waste £40m. We need midfielders to come in and make a difference now, not in a few years. We don't have time for projects.

I'd rather sign Matheus Nunes.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Lavia would be a great way to waste £40m. We need midfielders to come in and make a difference now, not in a few years. We don't have time for projects.

I'd rather sign Matheus Nunes.

Well, I suppose we could have swapped Henderson for Dempsey back in the summer of 2012, since Dempsey would have helped us immediately ...

[spider-neil]

Lavia would be a great way to waste £40m. We need midfielders to come in and make a difference now, not in a few years. We don't have time for projects.

I'd rather sign Matheus Nunes.

Lavia would absolutely make a difference to the team right now. And Nunes isn’t a defensive midfielder.

[RedG13]

Lavia would absolutely make a difference to the team right now.

How?
He not starting over Fabinho and He probably blocks playing time for Bajcetic.

[Clint Eastwood]

Well, I suppose we could have swapped Henderson for Dempsey back in the summer of 2012, since Dempsey would have helped us immediately ...

That's different though. Henderson was 22 and was ready to be a big player for us, as he subsequently demonstrated. Dempsey was 29 and not actually that good. I'm saying don't spend the £40m on a 19 year old to sit on the bench. Instead, use that money to sign another player like Mac Allister.

[Fordy]

For me, this would be a good summer. That lot is going to cost at least over 150m with no CL we’d have to make sales and be clever. For instance, selling Morton to Southampton would significantly reduce the Lavia fee.

Also with greater fitness (a proper preseason) the likes of Nunez and Gakpo bedded in and hopefully better luck with injuries (Thiago, Diaz and Baj) will see us kick on.

Would it be better than say Kane, Rice and Mount if Utd got them 3?

Problem for us is that we clearly  are not on the top table when it comes to transfer fees. We are running away like a scared cat.

Unfortunately, for us teams like Brighton have caught us up in recruiting.

At this rate we might as well have kept Milner like Klopp wanted too.

FSG are starting to become a bit of a joke in all honesty and I have backed them.

[PeterTheRed ...]

How?
He not starting over Fabinho and He probably blocks playing time for Bajcetic.

We could have up to 65 games next season. 38 in the league, and up to 27 in the Europa League, the League Cup and the FA Cup ...

[Clint Eastwood]

Lavia would absolutely make a difference to the team right now. And Nunes isn’t a defensive midfielder.

Would he? There's no way he comes in and starts over Fabinho and Bajcetic immediately, and we need first team quality players. A signing like his makes sense a year or two ago. Also, we have Bajcetic. He's better, younger and here right now. What's the point in having both? I know Bajcetic can play as an 8, but in this system he will be too high up the pitch.

Nunes isn't a DM, but if we aren't signing a DM who is an upgrade on Fabinho, then I'd rather we spent the money on improving our CM options.

For clarity, I don't want Nunes, but I don't want Lavia more

[spider-neil]

How?
He not starting over Fabinho and He probably blocks playing time for Bajcetic.

You’re speculating when you say he wouldn’t start over Fabinho. Fabinho has been horrific this season with only a recent uptick in form saving him from being moved on this summer.

[PeterTheRed ...]

That's different though. Henderson was 22 and was ready to be a big player for us, as he subsequently demonstrated. Dempsey was 29 and not actually that good. I'm saying don't spend the £40m on a 19 year old to sit on the bench. Instead, use that money to sign another player like Mac Allister.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Anyway, Lavia is not some kid coming out of a youth team. He already has a full season as a starter in the Premier League. People often moan that we are not taking risks. Well, Lavia is one of those risks, and might end up costing £100 million in a couple of years. The talent and the tools are certainly there ...

[RedG13]

We could have up to 65 games next season. 38 in the league, and up to 27 in the Europa League, the League Cup and the FA Cup ...

Yea and Henderson will also play 6 role. It not like Fabinho  consistently hasnt played huge minutes every year and Bajcetic should be able to handle 1000-1500 minutes

[PeterTheRed ...]

Yea and Henderson will also play 6 role. It not like Fabinho  consistently hasnt played huge minutes every year and Bajcetic should be able to handle 1000-1500 minutes

You have missed the point. Being in the Europa League, we have the luxury of developing players, instead of paying a fortune for several instant starters ...

[spider-neil]

Would he? There's no way he comes in and starts over Fabinho and Bajcetic immediately, and we need first team quality players. A signing like his makes sense a year or two ago. Also, we have Bajcetic. He's better, younger and here right now. What's the point in having both? I know Bajcetic can play as an 8, but in this system he will be too high up the pitch.

Nunes isn't a DM, but if we aren't signing a DM who is an upgrade on Fabinho, then I'd rather we spent the money on improving our CM options.

For clarity, I don't want Nunes, but I don't want Lavia more

I think a defensive midfielder who can run is an upgrade on Fabinho.

[RedG13]

You’re speculating when you say he wouldn’t start over Fabinho. Fabinho has been horrific this season with only a recent uptick in form saving him from being moved on this summer.

You think a 20 year DM who has to learn the system going to start of the experience of  a player who knows the system and klopp has very reliable even if they struggled at points this year

[spider-neil]

The way people are talking about Lavia I have to wonder if they have even seen him in action.