Topic: The Impact of COVID 19 on Sport...

[1892tillforever]

Bit harsh

Excuse me we are coming out of this very well. This is the longest unbeaten run in my life time lol


All jokes aside we haven't come out of anything looking well since GSB took over we've become a riduculed and disliked club. Rightly so in some of the comments and actions these three have done.

The shame of that is for many many years most of our history we were a good family club loyal to local and young players. Loyal to managers had only 9 managers in the first 100 years or so. Played the game the right way often to our detriment losing when we shouldn't. 

A great support considering we won sod all and having far more successful neighbours in London like Arsenal & Tottenham (Chelsea no different to West Ham trophy wise until Roman)

Often when talking to other fans down the years West Ham was actually a club a lot of people liked . They were generally inoffensive, played good football had local players a great youth system and mostly a good support (Knobheads in every club). Often commented how they liked I'm forever blowing bubbles etc

Often other fans would say to me from other parts of the country they were the London club they liked and respected you supported them rather than the other 3 big London clubs.

All changed now with GSB and of course social media allows people to be extreme knobheads.

I grew up having a soft spot for West Ham but as you say, the arseholes that now run your club have dragged its reputation down with them sadly  What are the chances of them leaving in the foreseeable future?

[killer-heels]

I reckon Brady's going to look twice as stupid after this mornings meeting between PL clubs. I fully expect the majority of clubs to band together and make a decision to complete the 19/20 season - whenever that may be. Too many big clubs have way too much at stake on a financial level to accept any other outcome

United in particular wont want the door shut on their chances of getting back in the CL. It's worth way too much money to them. Then you have Villa and Bournemouth who (mathematically speaking) both have a realistically good chance of avoiding relegation

Fulham too have a realistic chance of clawing their way into the automatic promotion places. I doubt very much they'd just sit back and stay quiet at the if Leeds and West Brom were handed promotion with 9 games to play. And I could probably give numerous more examples of clubs further down the divisions who have good grounds to refuse the notion of abandoning the season

Does anyone honestly think that any of those clubs, or the people who represent them legally, give a flying fuck about the opinions of someone who writes for the nations biggest gutter rag and who's club plays in a bowl left over from the Olympics?

 

The problem is that the people pushing for this even if they don't have an agenda seem to have this mindset or belief that we will just start back up as normal in August.

The reality that most understand is that this will be hanging over us by this point next year as well. The season next season is equally under threat and at best you will get a shortened season. What is the point in losing all this money whilst next season we get threatened with that again?

[Peabee]

I reckon Brady's going to look twice as stupid after this mornings meeting between PL clubs. I fully expect the majority of clubs to band together and make a decision to complete the 19/20 season - whenever that may be. Too many big clubs have way too much at stake on a financial level to accept any other outcome

United in particular wont want the door shut on their chances of getting back in the CL. It's worth way too much money to them. Then you have Villa and Bournemouth who (mathematically speaking) both have a realistically good chance of avoiding relegation

Fulham too have a realistic chance of clawing their way into the automatic promotion places. I doubt very much they'd just sit back and stay quiet at the if Leeds and West Brom were handed promotion with 9 games to play. And I could probably give numerous more examples of clubs further down the divisions who have good grounds to refuse the notion of abandoning the season

Does anyone honestly think that any of those clubs, or the people who represent them legally, give a flying fuck about the opinions of someone who writes for the nations biggest gutter rag and who's club plays in a bowl left over from the Olympics?

 

Exactly mate. Good post. It’s absolutely ridiculous to consider pretending the season never happened when next season could be interrupted too. The best plan is clearly to finish this season no matter how long it takes.

She has lost any credibility she had, as it’s obvious to anyone she was just trying to take advantage of a global health crisis for her own gain. Her own greed and opportunism prevented her from seeing how obvious it all was. I had a wealthy client years ago who sent us one of those Spanish lotto scam letters asking if it was worth a go at applying for - all he saw was lots of big numbers, which made him blind to the blatant scam. She was blind to her own obvious attempt at a “scam” to avoid relegation.

[AlphaDelta]

What concerns me, but in a way doesn't surprise, is the near-hysteria and jubilation from Everton and Man City fans (and some others) who are desperate for the league to be voided.
In standard behaviour of these fucking clowns, it starts off as a jovial conversation, "oh they should just cancel the entire thing, its only fair", then it gets quite serious, the why and why nots for the league to be cancelled. They have a barrel load of excuses as to why the league shouldnt be continued, and instead voided.

When this doesn't work, they turn nasty as I witnessed recently with some mates in work, "well we had to forefit things after Heysel". 

There is just no reasoning with them, bitter, bitter, bitter bastards.

[Peabee]

What concerns me, but in a way doesn't surprise, is the near-hysteria and jubilation from Everton and Man City fans (and some others) who are desperate for the league to be voided.
In standard behaviour of these fucking clowns, it starts off as a jovial conversation, "oh they should just cancel the entire thing, its only fair", then it gets quite serious, the why and why nots for the league to be cancelled. They have a barrel load of excuses as to why the league shouldnt be continued, and instead voided.

When this doesn't work, they turn nasty as I witnessed recently with some mates in work, "well we had to forefit things after Heysel". 

There is just no reasoning with them, bitter, bitter, bitter bastards.

Vile that they’re comparing Heysel to a global pandemic that has killed over 8000 to date.

If it affects any of their family, especially elderly, I wonder how they’ll feel about celebrating a virus.

[gamble]

I have long wondered when the bubble in football (top flight especially) will bust - surely this will have long lasting effects on clubs. Cashflow down, risk of lower than expected projected returns etc will financially hammer those clubs who were sailing too close to the edge. even the league itself will have taken a hit. the aftermath is going to be far reaching

[Fromola]

What concerns me, but in a way doesn't surprise, is the near-hysteria and jubilation from Everton and Man City fans (and some others) who are desperate for the league to be voided.
In standard behaviour of these fucking clowns, it starts off as a jovial conversation, "oh they should just cancel the entire thing, its only fair", then it gets quite serious, the why and why nots for the league to be cancelled. They have a barrel load of excuses as to why the league shouldnt be continued, and instead voided.

When this doesn't work, they turn nasty as I witnessed recently with some mates in work, "well we had to forefit things after Heysel". 

There is just no reasoning with them, bitter, bitter, bitter bastards.

While the powers that be forced us to play on weeks after 96 of our supporters were unlawfully killed and the entire squad and fanbase were traumatised. THat's nothing to do with the current situation at all but they never mention that.

[Ray K]

@SamWallaceTel

Premier League announces that, along with FA & EFL, it has scrapped rule that season must end by June 1 & extended "indefinitely". Message is clear: season 2019-2020 will be completed. No games until April 30 at earliest

[disgraced cake]

@SamWallaceTel

Premier League announces that, along with FA & EFL, it has scrapped rule that season must end by June 1 & extended "indefinitely". Message is clear: season 2019-2020 will be completed. No games until April 30 at earliest

We now go live to Grand Old Team

[rob1966]

@SamWallaceTel

Premier League announces that, along with FA & EFL, it has scrapped rule that season must end by June 1 & extended "indefinitely". Message is clear: season 2019-2020 will be completed. No games until April 30 at earliest

We're gonna win the League

[Statto Red]

English football will be suspended until at least 30 April because of the continued spread of coronavirus.

All games in England's Premier League, EFL, Women's Super League and Women's Championship, and all fixtures in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, are currently postponed.

The Football Association has also agreed that the current season can be "extended indefinitely" beyond the original end date of 1 June.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51962751

[Gerry Attrick]

Daniele Rugani's partner has revealed she's both pregnant and tested positive for Coronavirus. Fingers crossed there's no problems there.

[rebel23]

They will complete the season come hell or high water.

Even if it eats into next season.

They can't do anything else. TV contracts are signed & commitments made.

I think this shite will be over soon. New cases in China have fallen sharply.

[Son of Spion]

They will complete the season come hell or high water.

Even if it eats into next season.

They can't do anything else. TV contracts are signed & commitments made.

I think this shite will be over soon. New cases in China have fallen sharply.

Despite the hysteria and cynical agendas of some, this was always the most common sense approach to take for so many reasons.

[Fromola]

They will complete the season come hell or high water.

Even if it eats into next season.

They can't do anything else. TV contracts are signed & commitments made.

I think this shite will be over soon. New cases in China have fallen sharply.

They've been in quarantine. Time for UK government to take more drastic measures.

[rob1966]

Despite the hysteria and cynical agendas of some, this was always the most common sense approach to take for so many reasons.

Fans of other clubs are crying their eyes out tonight - nice bit of light relief

[Ghost Town]

They will complete the season come hell or high water.

Even if it eats into next season.

They can't do anything else. TV contracts are signed & commitments made.

I think this shite will be over soon. New cases in China have fallen sharply.

Indeed. China today reported their first day with no new cases of the virus. With the obvious caveat that it is China with their own, unique approach to reporting, this could well be the turning point for them and a start of a retrocession. If so it shows that there will be life after this. China were totally unprepared for the sudden arrival of this pathogen (conspiracy theories aside), albeit their response has been more robust than we have so far attempted. But then we had more warning and are probably better prepared than China or Italy.

We'll only know in retrospect whether the UK's methodologies were correct or not, but this thing can be beaten, and will be beaten and life will go on. So it makes sense to be optimistic and plan for life going on, rather than giving in to doom and gloom.

[Billy The Kid]

The reality that most understand is that this will be hanging over us by this point next year as well. The season next season is equally under threat and at best you will get a shortened season. What is the point in losing all this money whilst next season we get threatened with that again?

There's an important distinction to be made here. This season is still currently active. Legal contracts between the PL and the participating clubs are still in force. The distribution of prize money has already been determined and TV monies have already been advanced to clubs. Sky, BT, NBC, and all other licensed broadcasters have all put up insane amounts of money to secure the rights to screen games.  Some clubs have structured their financials on the back of the TV money therefore are legally bound to fulfil the fixtures

The 20/21 season on the other hand, is not currently active. It has not yet begun and cannot begin without 19/20 being brought to full completion. The notion that 19/20 season may have to be curtailed in order to accommodate the commencement of the 20/21 season is utterly preposterous. It's the other way around. It'll be the 20/21 season that will have to accommodate the completion of 19/20.

I reckon Brady knows that. Let's be honest, she probably only said what she said because of the rag that she writes for.

[Statto Red]

You also hope that by this time next year they would have developed an antidote to the virus.

[rebel23]

Despite the hysteria and cynical agendas of some, this was always the most common sense approach to take for so many reasons.

Agreed.

The impression I get is that the League chairman are unified.

The 19/20 season will complete however long it takes.

No need for us to panic.

[Peabee]

They will complete the season come hell or high water.

Even if it eats into next season.

They can't do anything else. TV contracts are signed & commitments made.

I think this shite will be over soon. New cases in China have fallen sharply.

What’s happening in China will have no relevance to the epidemic here. They applied very stringent measures.

[Iska]

Agreed.

The impression I get is that the League chairman are unified.

The 19/20 season will complete however long it takes.

No need for us to panic.

Au contraire, I’m starting to get a slight nagging worry in case this ends up replacing next season and they skip straight to 2021/22.  I want back-to-back titles while we’re flying.

[The North Bank]

What’s happening in China will have no relevance to the epidemic here. They applied very stringent measures.

Unless we play out the rest of the season in China.

[rebel23]

What’s happening in China will have no relevance to the epidemic here. They applied very stringent measures.

Don't underestimate our authoritarian politicians.  They're preparing to ram through new laws as we speak that will allow them to take draconian measures like they have done in China. 

In fact they already have a lot of bad laws on the books should they decide to use them.

[TSC]

Don't know if this is the best thread for this.  But for anyone who subscribes to sky sports and has online access, there is now an option to 'pause' sky sports until the 'action' returns.  Obvious caveat may be if you just subscribe for the football, then charges may kick in again when the first obscure sport starts again, not necessarily football.

[The North Bank]

Don't know if this is the best thread for this.  But for anyone who subscribes to sky sports and has online access, there is now an option to 'pause' sky sports until the 'action' returns.  Obvious caveat may be if you just subscribe for the football, then charges may kick in again when the first obscure sport starts again, not necessarily football.

That is smart by them, stops thousands cancelling in their droves, and who knows what their financial situation will be like when the action returns, many may not bother coming back then.

[rebel23]

Don't know if this is the best thread for this.  But for anyone who subscribes to sky sports and has online access, there is now an option to 'pause' sky sports until the 'action' returns.  Obvious caveat may be if you just subscribe for the football, then charges may kick in again when the first obscure sport starts again, not necessarily football.

Can you cross post this to here:

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=277915.2720

That's good news for Sky customers 

[TSC]

Can you cross post this to here:

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=277915.2720

That's good news for Sky customers 

On phone so was easier to just type similar in that thread.

[Circa1892]

Unless we play out the rest of the season in China.

I mean. I reckon this was posted as a joke. But I wouldn’t be stunned...

[The North Bank]

I mean. I reckon this was posted as a joke. But I wouldn’t be stunned...

Dead serious mate, the premier league can afford it, by the time May comes round China will be the "safest" place to be. They are already getting on top of the virus, and if they are doing so well that fans are allowed in, a lot of games would sell out.

[rafathegaffa83]

@SamWallaceTel

Premier League announces that, along with FA & EFL, it has scrapped rule that season must end by June 1 & extended "indefinitely". Message is clear: season 2019-2020 will be completed. No games until April 30 at earliest

Yep. Athletic reporting that the PL clubs would be forced to pay back £762m in lost broadcast revenue if the season was cancelled.

Daniele Rugani's partner has revealed she's both pregnant and tested positive for Coronavirus. Fingers crossed there's no problems there.

Oh dear

[killer-heels]

Don't know if this is the best thread for this.  But for anyone who subscribes to sky sports and has online access, there is now an option to 'pause' sky sports until the 'action' returns.  Obvious caveat may be if you just subscribe for the football, then charges may kick in again when the first obscure sport starts again, not necessarily football.

Yep I have done that however they told me that I would have to ring back to get the sports back again as I did ask as to whether it would start up again automatically.

[Circa1892]

Dead serious mate, the premier league can afford it, by the time May comes round China will be the "safest" place to be. They are already getting on top of the virus, and if they are doing so well that fans are allowed in, a lot of games would sell out.

Yeah I see it happening. It’d be economically great for the clubs - only way they could get around it without outcry would be passing on the excess revenue down the pyramid.

[Peabee]

Unless we play out the rest of the season in China.

Hmmm. I like how you think. If it would have been played behind closed doors here then why not.

[1892tillforever]

Why in the actual fuck is there horse racing happening in Dundalk today? Yes, it is behind closed doors but the bookies have to continue getting their filthy hands involved.

I see I answered my own question!

[Circa1892]

Why in the actual fuck is there horse racing happening in Dundalk today? Yes, it is behind closed doors but the bookies have to continue getting their filthy hands involved.

I see I answered my own question!

Maybe an opportunity to try Jockey free horse racing - gets rid of the horrible whipping of animals and would be a much more fun watch...

[Gerry Attrick]

Why in the actual fuck is there horse racing happening in Dundalk today? Yes, it is behind closed doors but the bookies have to continue getting their filthy hands involved.

I see I answered my own question!

I have read some stuff on Twitter about this. Apparently the main difference between horse racing in Ireland and Britain is most of the ambulances that do laps of the tracks in Ireland are private, so they're not removing services that are core to the public at times like this. Horse racing is an enormous employer too, so I suspect the government are giving them every encouragement.

[Statto Red]

If the Open Golf has to be cancelled then the R&A will move the venues back a year as this year was supposed to be the 149th Open, as they want the 150th Open to be at St Andrews, Royal St Georges is supposed to host the Open this year, i think Royal St Georges will still host the next Open but could be next year.

[Yiannis]

Daniele Rugani's partner has revealed she's both pregnant and tested positive for Coronavirus. Fingers crossed there's no problems there.

Over here we had the first woman who had tested positive for coronavirus and gave birth 2 days ago. She is currently in a good state, tests they did to the baby for coronavirus came back negative! So fingers crossed.

[Fromola]

Going to get a hell of a lot worse here as the government are carrying on as normal. Packed out tube trains, full offices, gyms, pubs and cafes open. I walked past the chippy last night that was rammed. There were even several people in the bookies despite sport being off.

We're on a worse trajectory than Italy and that's without testing enough people to get the true picture.