Topic: Liverpool Legends thread

[Red Beret]

Where was this Liverpool when we were playing United?


Good result though. Normally these affairs tend to end in draw, so getting the win is nice!

YNWA Sven!

[Cracking Left Foot]

Just got back, cracking day and lovely to see Sven looking so happy

[FlashingBlade]

Only time someone who has managed England and 'Liverpool' Loved at Anfield 😄

[JRed]

Sven comes across as a proper, genuinely nice bloke. Glad the club could give him a day to make him smile, and boy did he smile!

[Crosby Nick]

Sven comes across as a proper, genuinely nice bloke. Glad the club could give him a day to make him smile, and boy did he smile!

Think after the Portugal defeat in 2006 he did a press conference and urged the media not to scapegoat Rooney for his red card. Think he said “look after him” or something similar. Could have easily thrown him under the bus and blamed him for the defeat.

Contrast that with Hodgson and that whole “I don’t know why they wanted me to be here” after he’d got England knocked out by Iceland.

Good man Sven.

[Red Beret]

Think after the Portugal defeat in 2006 he did a press conference and urged the media not to scapegoat Rooney for his red card. Think he said “look after him” or something similar. Could have easily thrown him under the bus and blamed him for the defeat.

Contrast that with Hodgson and that whole “I don’t know why they wanted me to be here” after he’d got England knocked out by Iceland.

Good man Sven.

Ah, Hodgson. Dodging responsibility since 1974.

[thaddeus]

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Brilliant.  Thanks for all the content Jason 

I've not followed our legends team at all before so are they always that star studded or was there a special effort for Sven?  I hope he had a fantastic day.

It was a bit weird seeing Torres and Cisse with boring haircuts 

[rob1966]

Brilliant.  Thanks for all the content Jason 

I've not followed our legends team at all before so are they always that star studded or was there a special effort for Sven? I hope he had a fantastic day.

It was a bit weird seeing Torres and Cisse with boring haircuts 

I took the kids to the Bayern and Man Utd legends games, they've seen Rush, Fowler, Gerrard, Owen, Xabi, Garcia, Maxi, Skrtel, Henchoz and Dudek as well as the likes of Sinama Pongolle, James, Westerveld, Kvarme, Gonzalez.

Gonna be great when Sadio, Mo, Suarez turn out for them

[Samie]

Pretty much any player who has played for us since the 90's has done a Legends game for us.

[Garlicbread]

Think after the Portugal defeat in 2006 he did a press conference and urged the media not to scapegoat Rooney for his red card. Think he said “look after him” or something similar. Could have easily thrown him under the bus and blamed him for the defeat.

[Knight]

Shed a little tear at this.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/23/sven-goran-eriksson-savours-huge-memory-in-life-at-liverpool

[reddebs]

Had his name sung by the Kop when he was back the first time for the Stevie vs Carra charity match. I think that was the moment. And rightly so, I think...

I was on the kop for that game 😁

[disgraced cake]

I get chills thinking about what it must have been like for Sven coming out onto the pitch before the game today, imagine how he must have felt. I hope we can win another trophy or two for him and his dad to enjoy. Besides all the good the foundation does for the less privileged in society and former players from our glory days this has been the best part of them. Hope the players all enjoy a great night in the city.

[John C]

Think after the Portugal defeat in 2006 he did a press conference and urged the media not to scapegoat Rooney for his red card. Think he said “look after him” or something similar. Could have easily thrown him under the bus and blamed him for the defeat.

Contrast that with Hodgson and that whole “I don’t know why they wanted me to be here” after he’d got England knocked out by Iceland.

Good man Sven.

All of that is 100% correct, you've decent memory for an old man Nick.

[Crosby Nick]

All of that is 100% correct, you've decent memory for an old man Nick.

Thanks Uncle John.

[John C]

 

[Cafe De Paris]

It was feel good all round. Great to see Torres get a goal back in the LFC shirt and being loved again. But highlight is Sven and him being able to manage the mighty red men. YNWA.

[Only Me]

Torres is an absolute legend - weird take by some in here with all the hate.

When he left, we were the snidiest club on the fucking planet, run by two useless mercenaries, and managed by a fucking owl.

That odious prick Purslow had been acting the c*nt for a year and helping his mate, the “legend” that was Carragher, get a final fat pay off in the midst of all the financial mayhem the club was embroiled in.

Don’t blame him one bit for leaving.

Short memories some have.

[SamLad]

Shed a little tear at this.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/23/sven-goran-eriksson-savours-huge-memory-in-life-at-liverpool

beautiful. simply beautiful.

[Tedspace]

Brilliant.  Thanks for all the content Jason 

I've not followed our legends team at all before so are they always that star studded or was there a special effort for Sven?  I hope he had a fantastic day.

It was a bit weird seeing Torres and Cisse with boring haircuts 

Add Martin Skrtel to the boring haircut crew as well 

[Anthony]

Shed a little tear at this.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/23/sven-goran-eriksson-savours-huge-memory-in-life-at-liverpool

It is not the first time Eriksson has taken charge of the home team at Anfield, leading England to victory over Finland in 2001, defeating Paraguay a year later in a friendly and Uruguay in 2006. He finishes with a perfect record in the home dugout.

Of course, in an ideal scenario, he'd have another 6 chances to lose that record but savour what you have...

[B0151?]

Torres is an absolute legend - weird take by some in here with all the hate.

When he left, we were the snidiest club on the fucking planet, run by two useless mercenaries, and managed by a fucking owl.

That odious prick Purslow had been acting the c*nt for a year and helping his mate, the “legend” that was Carragher, get a final fat pay off in the midst of all the financial mayhem the club was embroiled in.

Don’t blame him one bit for leaving.

Short memories some have.

So instead of hating Torres you shift the hate onto another legend for us  Classic RAWK

I don't think he really deserves hate though. He did himself more dirty with the Chelsea move than anyone. He may not have been the same player as he was previously but I think he would have been better staying here up front with Suarez than he was for Chelsea.

He ended up playing more games for Chelsea than he did us is the mad stat. A lot less goals though!

[disgraced cake]

I don't blame him for leaving either but I think people rightly have a problem with where he left too and some of the shit he came out with afterwards. As for being a legend, he wouldn't be in my book anyway because he never won anything here, and when the chips were down he certainly never produced. It's all about opinions though and those days are in the past. Will say one thing about him though, bounce in a minute ... what a song that was for those couple of years. Been a few good ones since but nothing close really as far as player songs go.

[Cracking Left Foot]

Torres is an absolute legend - weird take by some in here with all the hate.

When he left, we were the snidiest club on the fucking planet, run by two useless mercenaries, and managed by a fucking owl.

That odious prick Purslow had been acting the c*nt for a year and helping his mate, the “legend” that was Carragher, get a final fat pay off in the midst of all the financial mayhem the club was embroiled in.

Don’t blame him one bit for leaving.

Short memories some have.

I don’t disagree with you on the Torres hate, but your timeline is a bit off. Nando left for Chelsea just after Kenny was appointed by FSG. He’d gone through the whole shitshow with H&G, and Hodgson had already been sacked when he was sold. I imagine his head was completely burned out by January 2011, and I don’t blame him for wanting to get away, but I did resent him for a while for not giving Kenny a chance. Plus I’d have loved to have him and Suarez up front together.
I think he knows he made a mistake going to Chelsea, and it ended up working out alright for us. It was nice to see him playing again today at any rate

[KillieRed]

Imagine prime Torres and Suarez together, Stevie just behind them…

Unfortunately “we” had broken Fernando by then, cashed in and spent the proceeds. It probably wouldn’t have worked anyway. I wonder what Kenny’s second coming would have been like given free rein?

[MBL?]

Torres was 100% right for leaving under the circumstances. I have no problem with him or any of the others leaving and some of them left under worse circumstances. People need to grow up about this stuff.

Except for owen cause he's clearly a c*nt..

[Dench57]

Just watched the highlights. God it's really hard to hate Torres isn't it, even though he broke my heart.

I wonder if my softening perspective on him has a lot to do with him being pretty terrible as soon as he left LFC. Would I have forgiven so easily if he went from strength to strength and won trophy after trophy with Chelsea, becoming a legend for them in his own right? I doubt it.

[Cu Chulainn]

Just watched the highlights. God it's really hard to hate Torres isn't it, even though he broke my heart.

Yeah, can't hate Nando any more - haven't for years. Broke my heart too, but despite winning more there, it's clear he loves us over Chelsea. Too many amazing memories of him to hold a grudge still. 

Glad we got the win and that Sven got to meet Jurgen beforehand. Hope he enjoyed every second of it, and that he can see the club win another trophy or two!

[Coolie High]

So instead of hating Torres you shift the hate onto another legend for us  Classic RAWK

I don't think he really deserves hate though. He did himself more dirty with the Chelsea move than anyone. He may not have been the same player as he was previously but I think he would have been better staying here up front with Suarez than he was for Chelsea.

He ended up playing more games for Chelsea than he did us is the mad stat. A lot less goals though!

Indeed, Carragher is a way bigger legend than Torres is for us. But I’ve noticed on here the English and Scouse players get way more stick than anybody else, Sterling for example didn’t do anything different to Alonso Suarez and Torres yet seems to get a lot more hate.

[Statto Red]

Torres was 100% right for leaving under the circumstances. I have no problem with him or any of the others leaving and some of them left under worse circumstances. People need to grow up about this stuff.

Except for owen cause he's clearly a c*nt..

Agreed, the turmoil the club was in at the time, plus we fleeced Chelsea for £50 million for him, but looking back the club didn't do anything to keep hold of him, but you could imagine the Suarez & Torres partnership, with Gerrard playing behind them, had Torres stayed.

Agree with Owen, seeing him playing for Man Utd burnt bridges with us, even though he was injured most of the time he was there.

[King Kenny 7]

Really enjoyed that on so many levels.

Highlights for me was the El Zhar goal, Maxi's never give up attitude and to be fair De Zeeuw was unbelievable.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Indeed, Carragher is a way bigger legend than Torres is for us. But I’ve noticed on here the English and Scouse players get way more stick than anybody else, Sterling for example didn’t do anything different to Alonso Suarez and Torres yet seems to get a lot more hate.

Well Alonso and Suarez went abroad, with varying degrees of classiness. Torres was really treated with contempt after his move - it broke a lot of hearts to see a great player leave us for the odious Chelsea, and I think the levels of "hatred" were pretty similar to with Sterling, but Torres had given us far more joy, expressed more regret later on, and the circumstances made it more understandable in retrospect.

Sterling has always been a little mercenary, jumped ship to City when they were building their pathetic little empire, used his agent to make things unpleasant, and did little to mend relations after that. Hardly worth hating, though - he's had a whole career of not being loved when he could have had the support of Liverpool fans, so it's his loss.

[Coolie High]

Well Alonso and Suarez went abroad, with varying degrees of classiness. Torres was really treated with contempt after his move - it broke a lot of hearts to see a great player leave us for the odious Chelsea, and I think the levels of "hatred" were pretty similar to with Sterling, but Torres had given us far more joy, expressed more regret later on, and the circumstances made it more understandable in retrospect.

Sterling has always been a little mercenary, jumped ship to City when they were building their pathetic little empire, used his agent to make things unpleasant, and did little to mend relations after that. Hardly worth hating, though - he's had a whole career of not being loved when he could have had the support of Liverpool fans, so it's his loss.

That’s was by chance though, why Suarez and Alonso went abroad.Both were more than willing to go to Arsenal, especially Suarez, who was huffing and sulking when the move didn’t go through.

[Ma Vie en Rouge]

Well sure. Gerrard was ready to go to Chelsea a couple of times, I think. But he didn't, and that's what counted. If he'd ended up off to Madrid, no one would have held it against him. Going to Saudi, on the other hand...

Sterling just has never seemed very likeable, somehow. And it may well be unfair, we don't know him at all. But he chose his path when he joined City, and carried on down it when he chose Chelsea. Those clubs employ mercenaries, there's no love there.

[Barneylfc∗]

Torres is an absolute legend

No he isn't. He's just another ex player. A very very good ex player for a couple of seasons, but far short of being a legend. He led us to the grand total of fuck all silverware. El Hadji Diuof won more with the club.

[Coolie High]

Well sure. Gerrard was ready to go to Chelsea a couple of times, I think. But he didn't, and that's what counted. If he'd ended up off to Madrid, no one would have held it against him. Going to Saudi, on the other hand...

Sterling just has never seemed very likeable, somehow. And it may well be unfair, we don't know him at all. But he chose his path when he joined City, and carried on down it when he chose Chelsea. Those clubs employ mercenaries, there's no love there.

Gerrard backed out himself, we didn’t allow Suarez to go Arsenal, he never changed his mind based on his own decision.

I don’t know how Sterling didn’t seem likeable, he always came across as a shy young lad like he was at the time, he was here from 15 and was going to school get chased by bullies and racially abused, he didn’t own the people of Merseyside  anything.

[SamLad]

Gerrard backed out himself, we didn’t allow Suarez to go Arsenal, he never changed his mind based on his own decision.

I don’t know how Sterling didn’t seem likeable, he always came across as a shy young lad like he was at the time, he was here from 15 and was going to school get chased by bullies and racially abused, he didn’t own the people of Merseyside  anything.

his agent acted and talked like a gobshite trying to get his move to MC. total disrespect to LFC.

Sterling has acted like a gobshite on the pitch each time against us since he left - plus went after Gomez in the England training camp one time.  he's a little snot.

[Red Beret]

I don’t disagree with you on the Torres hate, but your timeline is a bit off. Nando left for Chelsea just after Kenny was appointed by FSG. He’d gone through the whole shitshow with H&G, and Hodgson had already been sacked when he was sold. I imagine his head was completely burned out by January 2011, and I don’t blame him for wanting to get away, but I did resent him for a while for not giving Kenny a chance. Plus I’d have loved to have him and Suarez up front together.
I think he knows he made a mistake going to Chelsea, and it ended up working out alright for us. It was nice to see him playing again today at any rate

Torres did some serious mental gymnastics at the time, and for many years afterwards, trying to justify his decision. He said later on in a tacit admission that, when he was younger, he had thought it was all about the trophies; but that at the end of his career he realised it was about the memories - and that his best memories were from his time at Liverpool.

I think cynics have dismissed the comments as PR, just trying to get back onside with the fans. But there are plenty of other former LFC players out there - either retired or still playing - who refuse to even acknowledge their mistakes, much less try to atone for them.

Even when he clearly couldn't be arsed towards the end, he was still scoring for us. It was only at Chelsea that he dried up completely. I think he realises now just how much that connection with the fans kept him going.

[Red Beret]

Just to add - I don't think this should become a discussion where we debate the various attributes of what makes an LFC player a legend, or what constitutes making them a cnut, or who has a mix of both.

A man dying of cancer fulfilled a lifelong dream and every ex-player out there stepped up to make it a special day for Sven and all those watching. There's a whole board where you can slag off ex-players.

[Trotterwatch]

Nothing but love for all the players who turned up.  It was a great day for Sven, for the Foundation and for the fans.  I'm sure the players loved it too. Only downside for me was that Igor didn't score   Genuinely loved him as a player (midfield, not central defence).