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Re: European homes
« Reply #480 on: February 7, 2018, 10:53:52 am »
Fired up the ticket site at 7.45am. Put in a 5 min queue at around 8.17am. Not much left on The Kop by the time I got through, certainly not many pairs. Stuck 2x Main Stand Uppers in my basket as backup, then after a refresh managed to add a pair on The Kop. Went to my basket to remove the Main Stand pair and ended up removing the Kop pair by mistake! Ended up getting 2 singles in the Kop. Shit how hard it is to get next to a mate, given I’ve stood with mine all through the previous rounds. Still, I’m lucky to get in reading some of the other posts on here!

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Re: European homes
« Reply #481 on: February 7, 2018, 10:55:26 am »
Woke up late and completely forgot despite having multiple reminders on my phone.

Managed to get 4 separate tickets in Main Stand lower next to the away fans. Restricted view but in is in.

Going to be annoying when the inevitable corporate returns will happen and it turns out there's way better seats available...

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Re: European homes
« Reply #482 on: February 7, 2018, 11:13:19 am »
really not sure how people with three are potentially missing out here - previous games dropped to a level of credits below. All teams took a full away allocation. I appreciate that UEFA etc will take more seats but i'd expect that not to be too many more than those numbers sat on 2/3 credits.

I expect that all with 3 will eventually be sorted from returns on corporates and on returns from UEFA etc but it does seem odd.


They didn't, Sevilla and Moscow had about 1 block.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #483 on: February 7, 2018, 11:17:38 am »
Pretty sure Moscow had a full away end? Sevilla had a pathetic tiny corner like the shit supporters and shit club that they are

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Re: European homes
« Reply #484 on: February 7, 2018, 11:21:15 am »
Yeah Spartak had the full end.

Sevillas ultras didn't travel due to £, but they were probably worried the Poles would come for them again.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #485 on: February 7, 2018, 12:59:46 pm »
Pretty sure Moscow had a full away end? Sevilla had a pathetic tiny corner like the shit supporters and shit club that they are

Bit like Basel then for Sevilla.  Moscow had the full allocation.
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Re: European homes
« Reply #486 on: February 7, 2018, 01:59:12 pm »
They didn't, Sevilla and Moscow had about 1 block.
Pretty sure Moscow had a full away end? Sevilla had a pathetic tiny corner like the shit supporters and shit club that they are

fair do's i stand corrected. i guess my point is if one team had less than a full allocation then you'd expect there to be a number of people on two games perhaps? Ie they could get a seville ticket but perhaps missed out on one of the next due to the bigger away attendance.

That way there surely is enough for all on 3 to get a ticket or am i missing something (corporate and UEFA of course get more).

Anyway, hopefully it will all sort itself out on returns and unsold hospitality etc

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Re: European homes
« Reply #487 on: February 7, 2018, 02:53:59 pm »
Well at least you've got 2 weeks to keep looking until you can't change anymore

Ticket Office is really hit or miss with helping on this kinda thing I find. I don't actually mind (and kinda prefer weirdly) sitting separately but I just don't like sitting next to the away fans at all.
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Re: European homes
« Reply #488 on: February 7, 2018, 03:22:15 pm »
The big block of tickets in the LKD was surely unsold hospitality tickets?

Imagine knocking Porto out and draw Barca in the next round, that would be mayhem for members with 4!!
Of course hypothetically speaking at the stage.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #489 on: February 7, 2018, 03:28:58 pm »
The big block of tickets in the LKD was surely unsold hospitality tickets?

Seems so, yes.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #490 on: February 7, 2018, 03:36:13 pm »
The big block of tickets in the LKD was surely unsold hospitality tickets?

Imagine knocking Porto out and draw Barca in the next round, that would be mayhem for members with 4!!
Of course hypothetically speaking at the stage.

I also think that the further you go in the competition the more UEFA & sponsors can also request from the club.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #491 on: February 7, 2018, 04:22:40 pm »
last seasons competition but it paints the picture - looks like an extra 240 tickets to UEFA etc from the group stage numbers and increases now round on round

66.09 For every UEFA Champions League and play-off match, the clubs undertake to
provide UEFA with the following numbers of complimentary tickets to the VIP
area, including hospitality, for UEFA and the partners:
a. Play-offs: 10
b. Group matches: 50
c. Round of 16 matches: 50
d. Quarter-finals: 50
e. Semi-finals: 50.

66.10 This number of tickets and hospitality passes must not exceed 10% of the VIP area
seating capacity. In such a case, any difference must be offset by tickets (including
hospitality) in the highest category. All such tickets must be in one block, in a
section located between the two 16m lines. Upon request, clubs must locate up to
five of UEFA’s VIP ticket holders in the best possible seats next to the UEFA match
delegate and/or the club’s highest level executives (for example, the club
president or chief executive officer).
58 XII – Exploitation of the Commercial Rights

66.11 Likewise, a number of complimentary tickets in the highest category, stated
below, in one block, in a section located between the two 16m lines, must be
provided to UEFA for its own use, as well as for the use of partners. The following
numbers of complimentary tickets must be provided:
a. Play-offs: 50
b. Group matches: 330
c. Round of 16 matches: 380
d. Quarter-finals: 425
e. Semi-finals: 475

66.12 In addition, UEFA and the partners must be given the opportunity to acquire, at
face value, an agreed number of retail tickets, whereby tickets in the next highest
category must also be situated in one block and in a central section (i.e. not
behind the goal):
a. Play-offs: minimum of 350 top-category retail tickets, 370 retail tickets in the
next highest category and 220 retail tickets in the third highest category;
b. Group matches: minimum of 350 top-category retail tickets, 370 retail tickets
in the next highest category and 230 retail tickets in the third highest
category;
c. Round of 16 matches: minimum of 410 top-category retail tickets, 460 retail
tickets in the next highest category and 360 retail tickets in the third highest
category;
d. Quarter-finals: minimum of 660 top-category retail tickets, 710 retail tickets in
the next highest category and 640 retail tickets in the third highest category;
e. Semi-finals: minimum of 880 top-category retail tickets, 920 retail tickets in
the next highest category and 730 retail tickets in the third highest category;
f. The final is exempt from these stipulations.

66.13 All tickets must be official UEFA Champions League or play-offs tickets approved
by UEFA prior to production.

66.14 UEFA and the partners may use tickets provided by the clubs in accordance with
this Article 66 for promotional purposes.

66.15 The clubs shall ensure that, as a minimum, their ticketing terms and conditions for
the matches stipulate that:
a. no person may conduct any promotional or commercial activity at the match
stadium, without the prior written approval of UEFA;
b. tickets must not be used for any commercial purposes such as for promotion,
advertising, use as a prize in a competition/sweepstake, or as part of a
hospitality or travel package, without the prior written approval of UEFA;
c. all people attending the match acknowledge that use may be made (free of
charge) of their voice, image and/or likeness in still images and audio/visual
transmissions relating to the match;
d. no person attending the match may, without UEFA’s prior written approval,
record, transmit and/or exploit any sound, image, data, statistics and/or
description of the match for any purpose other than for private use.
XII – Exploitation of the Commercial Rights 59

66.16 For every UEFA Champions League match, the home club must provide UEFA, free
of charge, with a single exclusive hospitality area of a minimum of 400m² of open
and usable space (excluding fixed installations and doors/fire access routes)
within the stadium. Following the group stage, the relevant home clubs should
(where practicable) provide UEFA, free of charge, with a larger single exclusive
hospitality area (i.e. in excess of the minimum 400m² size) in order to
accommodate the increased number of guests.

66.17 The standard of these facilities must be at least comparable to the highest
standard available in the stadium. If the home club is not able to offer such
facilities within the stadium, it must find an alternative solution at its own expense
outside the stadium. Such alternative solution must be of a standard comparable
to that of an indoor facility.

66.18 A number of accreditations for partners, to be agreed upon, will be made
available by UEFA, in conjunction with the home club. In every case, accreditation
will ensure that all services can be proffered before, during and after the match.

66.19 In principle, 60 parking places for the play-offs and 180 parking places from the
group stage onwards must be provided, free of charge, to UEFA for use by
partners. The number and category of parking places is decided upon by UEFA
and the home club. These parking spaces should be in a prime position, wherever
possible with easy access to the Champions Club (i.e. the UEFA Champions
League hospitality area).

66.20 The clubs are responsible for dispatching tickets and hospitality and parking
passes to UEFA and/or the partners in accordance with UEFA's instructions.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #492 on: February 7, 2018, 04:48:29 pm »
So UEFA can take 1,660 tickets for the Porto game, and 3,055 tickets for a semi-final?  :o

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Re: European homes
« Reply #493 on: February 7, 2018, 05:02:25 pm »
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Re: European homes
« Reply #494 on: February 7, 2018, 05:03:17 pm »
So UEFA can take 1,660 tickets for the Porto game, and 3,055 tickets for a semi-final?  :o

looks that way yes

no wonder the pot is getting smaller for those on 3 home matches

that said i expect they return a lot if the game isnt glamorous enough for them so it could point to a lot of returned tickets being available nearer the game

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Re: European homes
« Reply #495 on: February 7, 2018, 05:09:46 pm »
So 2 credits from the groups has no chance ye?

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Re: European homes
« Reply #496 on: February 7, 2018, 05:11:28 pm »
There's pros and cons to this - if we get to the final then it means more chance of a ticket to the final itself....
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Re: European homes
« Reply #497 on: February 7, 2018, 05:11:42 pm »
So 2 credits from the groups has no chance ye?

wouldnt say no chance as our ticket office works in mysterious ways. We havent seen FCH with 3 offered yet. I would say its going to be unlikely but may get a chance in late returns

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Re: European homes
« Reply #498 on: February 7, 2018, 05:18:25 pm »
There's pros and cons to this - if we get to the final then it means more chance of a ticket to the final itself....

love the confidence! not going to open that debate other than to say a reminder to people the UEFA ticket ballot for CL and Europa league is normally end of Feb time so keep your eyes peeled if you want an early shot at a ticket

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Re: European homes
« Reply #499 on: February 7, 2018, 05:21:03 pm »
love the confidence! not going to open that debate other than to say a reminder to people the UEFA ticket ballot for CL and Europa league is normally end of Feb time so keep your eyes peeled if you want an early shot at a ticket

Without going too much further into it, it's a 70k+ seater stadium, so could see easily 25k tickets to each side, take out tickets used by UEFA, away fans and segregation then who knows ;)
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Re: European homes
« Reply #500 on: February 7, 2018, 05:21:40 pm »
So UEFA can take 1,660 tickets for the Porto game, and 3,055 tickets for a semi-final:o
That's even more than the away allocation  :butt
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Re: European homes
« Reply #501 on: February 7, 2018, 06:53:32 pm »
looks that way yes

no wonder the pot is getting smaller for those on 3 home matches

that said i expect they return a lot if the game isnt glamorous enough for them so it could point to a lot of returned tickets being available nearer the game

If we get past Porto I can't see any game being considered not glamourous enough for them not to want their full allocation

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Re: European homes
« Reply #502 on: February 7, 2018, 07:56:39 pm »
Can't believe I forgot the sale today ,all sold out what's the chance of them coming back up ?

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Re: European homes
« Reply #503 on: February 7, 2018, 09:46:03 pm »
I can see a few more being released from returns, also depends if porto sells out their away allocation.  As it sold out on members with 3, I can see any future sales staying at that level, can't see it dropping down to people with 2 credits, unless uefa return a load of hospitality.  Definitely doing the ACS next season for the CL if we qualify!!

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Re: European homes
« Reply #504 on: February 7, 2018, 10:06:00 pm »
The ACS is an absolute god send

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« Reply #505 on: February 7, 2018, 11:01:10 pm »
The ACS is an absolute god send

You won't be saying that in July
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Re: European homes
« Reply #506 on: February 8, 2018, 09:55:45 am »
The ACS is an absolute god send

My bank card expired last month so I risked not getting ACS (from my Main Stand seats for the group stage) and trying to get Kop ones

Kop has sold out by the time I got in and I am in virtually the same seats

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Re: European homes
« Reply #507 on: February 8, 2018, 11:22:19 am »
You won't be saying that in July

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Re: European homes
« Reply #508 on: February 8, 2018, 02:08:44 pm »
Can’t believe I forgot this sale. Really hope there will be returns  :butt

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Re: European homes
« Reply #509 on: February 8, 2018, 02:11:52 pm »
why so?

was wondering this myself!

Only issue i can see with it is you're committing very early without any fixture details or prices

not sure how they will do it if we're in CL again either as those with all homes would far outweigh supply - wondered if they'd go back to those with all Europa league matches first. If we're in the Europa though it will be easy to get on!

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Re: European homes
« Reply #510 on: February 8, 2018, 03:54:12 pm »
was wondering this myself!

Only issue i can see with it is you're committing very early without any fixture details or prices

not sure how they will do it if we're in CL again either as those with all homes would far outweigh supply - wondered if they'd go back to those with all Europa league matches first. If we're in the Europa though it will be easy to get on!

ACS is annual opt in though, isnt it? - if so, it would be a case of setting a sales date "selling" ACS membership to all who qualified. Hasn't that always been the case?

Clearly if demand outweighs availability then its sold on a first come first served basis as normal and we are all at the mercy of the sales window again.

I'm glad to be sorted for this one, but kicking myself for not opting for ACS when i had the chance in the summer!
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Re: European homes
« Reply #511 on: February 8, 2018, 04:00:37 pm »
ACS is annual opt in though, isnt it? - if so, it would be a case of setting a sales date "selling" ACS membership to all who qualified. Hasn't that always been the case?

Clearly if demand outweighs availability then its sold on a first come first served basis as normal and we are all at the mercy of the sales window again.

I'm glad to be sorted for this one, but kicking myself for not opting for ACS when i had the chance in the summer!

Its an opt in but only if you meet the criteria - so this year it started on all homes in europa league and stopped i think on 4 games in europa league.

There will clearly be more demand as people see the benefit for it - my thought was around what criteria would it be - would they start on all europa league plus all CL homes from this season or just bin europa now.

Either way what will be will be.

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Re: European homes
« Reply #512 on: February 8, 2018, 04:06:08 pm »


There will clearly be more demand as people see the benefit for it - my thought was around what criteria would it be - would they start on all europa league plus all CL homes from this season or just bin europa now.

Either way what will be will be.

I'm all for including the Europa league, but id guess it will be just on CL only.
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Re: European homes
« Reply #513 on: February 8, 2018, 04:08:15 pm »
I'm all for including the Europa league, but id guess it will be just on CL only.

i agree. if we are only in the Europa league we'll be able to have as many seats as we like in the early games!!

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Re: European homes
« Reply #514 on: February 8, 2018, 04:15:00 pm »
Its an opt in but only if you meet the criteria - so this year it started on all homes in europa league and stopped i think on 4 games in europa league.

There will clearly be more demand as people see the benefit for it - my thought was around what criteria would it be - would they start on all europa league plus all CL homes from this season or just bin europa now.

Either way what will be will be.

Season ticket holders get first choice, then auto cup members who were on it from the previous season? I'm sure that's what happened this season. After that it goes down to members on attendance in the competition on a descending basis until it is fully subscribed?

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Re: European homes
« Reply #515 on: February 8, 2018, 04:16:34 pm »
Season ticket holders get first choice, then auto cup members who were on it from the previous season? I'm sure that's what happened this season. After that it goes down to members on attendance in the competition on a descending basis until it is fully subscribed?

i live and learn!! cheers - essentially then as long as we stay in CL its a closed shop?!

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« Reply #516 on: February 8, 2018, 05:01:01 pm »
i live and learn!! cheers - essentially then as long as we stay in CL its a closed shop?!

Now you say it like that I'm not sure as I don't think they would want a closed shop?? Maybe it's just opened to all members once the season ticket holders have been sorted?

I enrolled our 4 cards no problem this season with 6 of the 7 Europa league fixtures and got decent seats in the upper main. There was definitely season ticket and members with all Europa before I could sign up though.

Edit

Just looked and it appears it's season tickets then members with all homes, no preference to auto cup members from the previous season.
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Re: European homes
« Reply #517 on: February 8, 2018, 06:57:22 pm »
All of the auto cups this season required some prior attendance at previous seasons competitions for entry. So they'll at least use this season but granted a lot more people will have them all as opposed to 7 Europa League games. Frustrating as season tickets are never up for grabs that you don't get the opportunity to just renew your auto cup membership so long as you go to every one of them - but I can see why that would be unfair and also open to abuse. We just need more seats.
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Re: European homes
« Reply #518 on: February 8, 2018, 07:45:34 pm »
some how ended up with a Lower Main ticket for this that says restricted view in L1? didn't know there were any in the lower main? its the brothers so not that bothered but just weird I've never seen that before. any clues?

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Re: European homes
« Reply #519 on: February 8, 2018, 10:55:03 pm »
some how ended up with a Lower Main ticket for this that says restricted view in L1? didn't know there were any in the lower main? its the brothers so not that bothered but just weird I've never seen that before. any clues?

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