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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

« Last post by MonsLibpool on Today at 10:00:19 am »

Exactly this. The manager/head coach can have discussions with the SD/DoF about what players are needed, and might even make suggestions of names to look at, but the amount of work that we put into identifying the right players at the right price wouldn't be possible to oversee while also managing the team from game to game.

I get Al's reservations about how the set-up works at other clubs like Chelsea but I would suggest the problems they have is down to poor decisions made within the system, not the system itself - there is no consistency in philosophy from one manager to the next.

Again, the problems with Rodgers were surely down to his ego and refusal to work within the system, not the system itself. It's essential that the head coach and sporting director work harmoniously with mutual support. We never really had that with Rodgers, did we?

Remains to be seen how Hughes and Slot work together. Let's not prejudge it based on no evidence.

Managers don't have time and emotions come unto play.

They tend to prefer players from leagues they are familiar with. Look at Ten Hag for example. Rafa focused on Spanish players and Jurgen wanted Brandt over Mo. Gérard signed some players from Ligue 1.

We want the best players and the analysts are in the best position to pinpoint them. It also helps that they are not emotional in their decision making.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

« Last post by Fromola on Today at 09:58:41 am »

What about the players we missed out on for other clubs (Chelsea) while Klopp was manager - maybe not as clear cut as you think.

Most players will go where the money is, that's the reality. Chelsea offering daft wages on long contracts.

It's when you're broadly offering the same terms as other clubs that the player's decision will be determined by other factors.

Rodgers was a salesman but he struggled to sell the club to anyone. Having a joker like Ayre doing the deals as well didn't help. Always seemed in that banter era that we could only sign a player if we had a clear run on him. Let's face it, we only got Milner in because we offered him a very lucrative contract, above and beyond what even City were offering him to stay, while promising him a prominent role in the team.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: West Ham 2 vs 2 Liverpool Bowen 43’Robbo 48’ og (tit) 65’ Antonio 77’

« Last post by spider-neil on Today at 09:58:20 am »

Having watched the reply as he is running up to the ball he hears the whistle. You can actually hear the whistle. It would take Gakpo being very single-minded to slam the ball into an empty net after that. I wish he had but it is what it is.

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General Football and Sport / Re: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General

« Last post by RedSince86 on Today at 09:57:01 am »

We're never ever winning the League with Webb as Boss and Atkinson in charge hand picking Refs and VAR.

Seems like every 10 games we get Taylor 3 times. Tierney  and Kavanagh twice, Coote doing a game, then getting Kavanagh Tierney and Coote rotating doing VAR.

The amount of ridiculous decisions we've had go against us since Webb took charge is astounding.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Are you enjoying it?

« Last post by rob1966 on Today at 09:56:01 am »

What's/where's the Tomkins article?

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/referees-treat-lfc-very-differently

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

« Last post by smutchin on Today at 09:54:30 am »

Personally,  I prefer the head coach stuff. Let the experts determine the players that are the best fits for us in terms of price and quality.

Managers simply don't have enough time which leads to suboptimal decisions like renewing declining lder players' contract, signing players because they play well against us...

Jurgen said he was exhausted by the responsibility and streamlining the new manager's job would help.

Exactly this. The manager/head coach can have discussions with the SD/DoF about what players are needed, and might even make suggestions of names to look at, but the amount of work that we put into identifying the right players at the right price wouldn't be possible to oversee while also managing the team from game to game.

I get Al's reservations about how the set-up works at other clubs like Chelsea but I would suggest the problems they have is down to poor decisions made within the system, not the system itself - there is no consistency in philosophy from one manager to the next.

Again, the problems with Rodgers were surely down to his ego and refusal to work within the system, not the system itself. It's essential that the head coach and sporting director work harmoniously with mutual support. We never really had that with Rodgers, did we?

Remains to be seen how Hughes and Slot work together. Let's not prejudge it based on no evidence.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: PL: West Ham 2 vs 2 Liverpool Bowen 43’Robbo 48’ og (tit) 65’ Antonio 77’

« Last post by JRed on Today at 09:54:11 am »

Gakpo was too nice. He stopped over the ball and looked the Lino for guidance on whether he could play it.

Imagine Suarez in this situation. He was desperate for any goal. He would have rolled it into the open net, ran after it, picked it up, and then back to the centre circle where he would have placed it ready for a West Ham restart.

Left the referee to pick up the pieces. Yellow card no problem if given.

Definitely. Someone on here called Gakpo a ‘Gentle Giant’. That’s what he is, needs to develop a killer instinct.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation

« Last post by StevoHimself on Today at 09:53:03 am »

Personally,  I prefer the head coach stuff. Let the experts determine the players that are the best fits for us in terms of price and quality.

Managers simply don't have enough time which leads to suboptimal decisions like renewing declining lder players' contract, signing players because they play well against us...

Jurgen said he was exhausted by the responsibility and streamlining the new manager's job would help.

You'd like to think another benefit of having a coach who is going to be less involved with transfers is that you won't necessarily have that year or two where the new man decides who he likes in the squad and who he doesn't, before deciding where we need to strengthen. Not to say we'll go crazy immediately, but it'll be interesting to see how the fellas behind the scenes assess the current squad and where improvements can be made.

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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)

« Last post by Fromola on Today at 09:52:26 am »

The thing is you don't trust Nunez to do anything. You don't trust him to lead our attack, you don't trust him to counter attack and you don't trust him against a low block.

The thing is the stats don't back that up. For his two seasons at Liverpool he has been pretty much bang on a League goal every 180 minutes. So a goal every other game if he played the full 90 every week. So around 19 League goals per season despite not being a regular penalty taker for us.

At Benfica in his second season he scored a League goal every 76 minutes which is prolific.

So from the age of 21-24 he has scored a League goal every 123 minutes. So if he played 90 minutes in every game he would average out at just under 28 League goals per season from the age of 21-24.

Amazing how a player you wouldn't trust to play in an under 9's 5 a side has a record like that?

It's when you get the goals as well though. In 21/22 we played 3 cup finals and didn't score in them. In a summer when we really need to sort the midfield out, this may have led to us spending a club record fee on a striker. Therefore Nunez was being relied on to score on the big occasion. He's failed to do that and instead there's numerous big games where he's missed sitters at crucial times.

Origi's goal output was never great, but he scored so many big goals.

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General Football and Sport / Re: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General

« Last post by JRed on Today at 09:52:02 am »

General feeling at the club at the moment is one of exhaustion. Fighting this doesn’t seem appealing to anyone. Although you’re right, they’re lying in plain sight.

Honestly, I’m starting to doubt what I’m seeing with my own eyes and thinking maybe the officials are right. So I know it’s time now.