Topic: This Seasons Euro Away Allocation

[TeddyTime33]

The other worrying thing is that ever since the ticket debacle of Maribor away, the club always put a line like this in now as well :

In line with UEFA guidelines, a further 243 top category seats have been allocated to be used as part of the players' allocation and staff, travelling club staff and VIPs.

No mention of that all on the announcement yesterday so does that mean that the 200 odd additional will be on top of the 1800 or will that 200 odd come out of the 1800?

"a further" makes it sound like it's additional, aren't these seats in "category A" like the middle upper Kenny is always closed off for away fans, aren't these just the equivalent

[ABJ]

"a further" makes it sound like it's additional, aren't these seats in "category A" like the middle upper Kenny is always closed off for away fans, aren't these just the equivalent

Yes they are additional seats in a different part of the ground to the away end. The wording is clever though as it says that these additional seats are 'part' of the players' allocation and staff, travelling club staff and VIPs...so they'll also take a load from the allocation for others as well, in this case, from the 1800.

[30fiver]

Yes they are additional seats in a different part of the ground to the away end. The wording is clever though as it says that these additional seats are 'part' of the players' allocation and staff, travelling club staff and VIPs...so they'll also take a load from the allocation for others as well, in this case, from the 1800.

It's usually around 15-20% taken for hospo, players, sponsors and so on...

thats on top of the additional ones they get

So in reality there'll be 1500 ish for normal supporters, club may take less than usual given the circumstances like they do with bournemouth

Anyway, important to remember the same would have happened with Genk and Salzberg and so on, they'd have creamed their 15-20% off the advertised number for them too

[ABJ]

It's usually around 15-20% taken for hospo, players, sponsors and so on...

thats on top of the additional ones they get

So in reality there'll be 1500 ish for normal supporters, club may take less than usual given the circumstances like they do with bournemouth

Anyway, important to remember the same would have happened with Genk and Salzberg and so on, they'd have creamed their 15-20% off the advertised number for them too

Whilst thats true, I don't think for 1 second that they would have taken off the same percentage for Salzburg/Genk as they will for Madrid. our 1st visit back to the Bernabau in 8 years against the current champions who beat us in last seasons final? no chance.

[Tiz Lad]

Whilst thats true, I don't think for 1 second that they would have taken off the same percentage for Salzburg/Genk as they will for Madrid. our 1st visit back to the Bernabau in 8 years against the current champions who beat us in last seasons final? no chance.

Couldn't agree more mate, be surprised if there's 1300 to go on sale to the normal supporter

so will almost certainly be 6/6 (or 7/7 if they decide to use Napoli) - with maybe 250 ish for those on 5/6 or 6/7 so 500 chasing 250, depending how many hold tickets in baskets in the first sale

[TeddyTime33]

Yes they are additional seats in a different part of the ground to the away end. The wording is clever though as it says that these additional seats are 'part' of the players' allocation and staff, travelling club staff and VIPs...so they'll also take a load from the allocation for others as well, in this case, from the 1800.

oh yes I know that and you're right the wording is clever

[30fiver]

Whilst thats true, I don't think for 1 second that they would have taken off the same percentage for Salzburg/Genk as they will for Madrid. our 1st visit back to the Bernabau in 8 years against the current champions who beat us in last seasons final? no chance.

A lot of the % is contractual rather than them choosing a random number

You may find less returns from that than normal, people taking full entitlement etc.. where as other fixture they families may have given it a miss and so on..

But that being said, as the number of actual tickets taken was smaller due to allocation, say if 10% of that deduced number were returned for salzberg but then 3% returned (hypothetical) for Madrid then the number of actual returned tickets would be similar

If that makes sense...

[ABJ]

A lot of the % is contractual rather than them choosing a random number

You may find less returns from that than normal, people taking full entitlement etc.. where as other fixture they families may have given it a miss and so on..

But that being said, as the number of actual tickets taken was smaller due to allocation, say if 10% of that deduced number were returned for salzberg but then 3% returned (hypothetical) for Madrid then the number of actual returned tickets would be similar

If that makes sense...

It does but its a lot more black and white for me. For example, what percentage do you think the club siphoned off for 'others' for City away last season (and no doubt this season as well) compared to Villa away this Boxing Day...I'm not talking about returns either but how many were on sale for the start of the guaranteed 1st sale, the percentage difference was vastly different. The same will apply for Madrid compared to Salzburg, the % that the club will take out of the guaranteed Madrid 1st sale will be a lot more compared to what they took out initially for Salzburg.

[Tiz Lad]

A lot of the % is contractual rather than them choosing a random number

You may find less returns from that than normal, people taking full entitlement etc.. where as other fixture they families may have given it a miss and so on..

But that being said, as the number of actual tickets taken was smaller due to allocation, say if 10% of that deduced number were returned for salzberg but then 3% returned (hypothetical) for Madrid then the number of actual returned tickets would be similar

If that makes sense...

Whilst we'll never know the exact number that's siphoned off we will know a minimum number that's been taken if 5/6 or 6/7 if they use Napoli, aren't guaranteed - Salzburg was 1520

That way they will have siphoned off at least 17% for 'Others' should 5/6 or 6/7 not be guaranteed - And given you're 20% claim that's highly likely, more likely more