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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3120 on: January 23, 2022, 08:48:00 pm »
Anyone know what the first thing jwst is going to look at?

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3121 on: January 23, 2022, 11:24:55 pm »
Anyone know what the first thing jwst is going to look at?

the past.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3122 on: January 24, 2022, 02:26:48 pm »
Is it going to be like June before they image anything though?

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3123 on: January 24, 2022, 10:55:55 pm »
Is it going to be like June before they image anything though?
yeah takes time for the cooling ibelieve
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3124 on: January 25, 2022, 09:53:52 pm »
It has reached orbit!

Now they’ve got to speeds ages aligning the mirrors and switching on and testing the instruments.  1 million miles away.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3125 on: January 25, 2022, 11:40:31 pm »
So how does this halo orbit work ?
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3126 on: January 26, 2022, 09:52:30 am »
the past.

Further back in time than we have ever looked before. Its incredible really.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3127 on: January 26, 2022, 11:07:17 am »
Further back in time than we have ever looked before. Its incredible really.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3128 on: January 26, 2022, 04:05:48 pm »
the past.

Yeah...buh ... Technically everything we are looking at up there is in the past! I hope I live long enough to see all light disappear from view in the universe. Wouldn't that be amazing.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3129 on: January 26, 2022, 04:22:33 pm »
So how does this halo orbit work ?
its some miracle of gravity really, it orbits in a circle at this lagrange point which basically keeps it on the dark side of the earth as the earth  orbits around the sun. It's mad really, there's various lagrange points, you pop an object there and it'll stay the same distance from the earth and sun.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3130 on: January 26, 2022, 07:26:15 pm »
its some miracle of gravity really, it orbits in a circle at this lagrange point which basically keeps it on the dark side of the earth as the earth  orbits around the sun. It's mad really, there's various lagrange points, you pop an object there and it'll stay the same distance from the earth and sun.
To expand on that, The Lagrange points are the gravity balance between the sun, the Earth, and the moon. There are five of them. If an object stays exactly at one of these points, the superposition of the pull forces of all three bodies is zero. But since you can't put an object's center of mass at an exact point, the spacecraft has to orbit the Lagrange point. Two of the points are of no interest for space work because they are unstable; a tiny deviation will force an object away. The other three (L1, L2, L3) are stable in one plane (a deviation causes an orbit like a satellite), unstable in the other (will push spacecraft axially away if drifted). L3 is behind the sun, and unless we want to see the sun only and not being able to communicate with the spacecraft, why go there? (That's where the aliens must hide! ;)) L1 is between the sun and Earth, and that's where solar observatories are placed in orbit. The Genesis spacecraft went there too. The L2 is on the opposite side, always in Earth's shadow, so it's perfect for observation of the rest of the universe. Once the spacecraft enters orbit there, it will be kept orbiting in the stable plane (no need for fuel for orbit correction as there is no atmospheric drag), and the corrections will be done for compensating for the unstable axial drift.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3131 on: January 31, 2022, 01:40:56 am »
thanks for that mate, lovely explanation
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3133 on: February 10, 2022, 07:06:47 am »
Starship has been lifted on to its booster by the chopsticks…

Amazing stuff, looks like a sci-fi  film.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3134 on: February 10, 2022, 08:42:46 am »
Stash has been lifted on to its booster by the chopsticks…

Wait! are you just putting random words together now?

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3135 on: February 10, 2022, 09:42:48 am »
Wait! are you just putting random words together now?
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3136 on: February 14, 2022, 07:57:09 pm »
https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3137 on: February 14, 2022, 10:13:41 pm »
Has it got pictures of the Great Wall yet ?
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3138 on: February 14, 2022, 10:19:00 pm »
Starship environmental report delayed yet another month.  Now due 28th March.

If there’s anything to act on it could take a long long time
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3139 on: February 26, 2022, 12:54:04 pm »
I love SpaceX but that SLS is a fucking beast... further stacking underway last night with the connection of the Launch Vehicle Stage Adapter.

SLS Artemis 1 is now fully stacked. Whilst the launch date is expected to slip (again!) from May to sometime in summer, it's expected to be rolled out to the pad next month for testing before being wheeled back into the VAB.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3140 on: March 1, 2022, 12:22:27 pm »
Really bad news about the JWST :(



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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3141 on: March 1, 2022, 12:25:49 pm »
God damn it man, don't do that. :D
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« Reply #3142 on: March 1, 2022, 01:12:14 pm »
God damn it man, don't do that. :D
Gave me a good scare.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3143 on: March 20, 2022, 09:27:23 pm »
From about 7.35 in, SLS rollout

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3144 on: April 30, 2022, 08:23:55 am »
Another deep space roundup from Scott Manley.

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3145 on: May 12, 2022, 02:33:51 pm »
First picture of Sagittarius A released!
The super-massive blackhole at the heart of the milky way.
Amazing stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIQLA6lo6R0

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3146 on: May 13, 2022, 09:46:20 pm »
The Galactic Goatse.
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3147 on: June 18, 2022, 06:07:04 pm »
People should catch Brian Coxs Seven days on Mars shown last night on BBC2 some amazing footage of the rover making a long journey in a week a lot of it driving itself making its way to the Delta where they hope to find sigbs of life.

I didnt realise they only thought the space helicopter would only last a few flights before packing in but its still going strong.
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« Reply #3148 on: June 18, 2022, 06:23:33 pm »
People should catch Brian Coxs Seven days on Mars shown last night on BBC2 some amazing footage of the rover making a long journey in a week a lot of it driving itself making its way to the Delta where they hope to find sigbs of life.

I didnt realise they only thought the space helicopter would only last a few flights before packing in but its still going strong.
Re: helicopter, that's a misconception, probably perpetuated by journalists. NASA has shifter toward operations that allow primary missions to carry technology demonstration along for a piggy-back ride. The rover had two of those - the helicopter and MOXIE. The technology demonstration mission have a low success bar; after all, they had to demonstrate that a helicopter could fly in atmosphere that has just 1/100th of the density of ours. That was planned in 4 flights, the first one of which was a "hop" - go up a meter, come back down. Then it was the lateral move forth and back, landing on the same spot, then flights with two more complex move maneuvers. At that point, after the fourth flight, the technology demonstration mission was over, hence no operational money. To move into an operations phase, a new budget was needed (and was approved). The helicopter is now being tested as a scout for the rover, which was the original intent all along. So, that's the discrepancy between the first 4 flights and the current total of 29.

Money often define how missions go. A few years ago, I posted my thoughts on why successful long-term missions harm JPL, however counterintuitive that may appear. The mission operations budget is taken out of technology development and future missions. Shame that there is no reward for demonstrating success...
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3149 on: June 18, 2022, 06:33:46 pm »
In other news, Voyager may be sadly approaching the end of its life... The Pu power source is producing barely 5W (yes, 5W!) and the voltage to the computer is not enough to maintain "1"s and "0"s. The computer is going berserk and I don't know if it is recoverable. Just think about the power though, 5W LED light bulb is equivalent to ~40W incandescent light bulb, 5W is the small incandescent light bulb in a flash light, 5W is the small iPhone USB charger...
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3150 on: June 18, 2022, 07:57:45 pm »
In other news, Voyager may be sadly approaching the end of its life... The Pu power source is producing barely 5W (yes, 5W!) and the voltage to the computer is not enough to maintain "1"s and "0"s. The computer is going berserk and I don't know if it is recoverable. Just think about the power though, 5W LED light bulb is equivalent to ~40W incandescent light bulb, 5W is the small incandescent light bulb in a flash light, 5W is the small iPhone USB charger...
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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3151 on: June 20, 2022, 08:42:05 am »
All Star Trek fans know how Voyager’s computer going haywire ends….!

What a journey though… what a journey

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« Reply #3152 on: June 30, 2022, 08:54:00 pm »
The James Web space telescopes first images to be released on July 12th. Cant wait!!. a handful of images already taken (not shown yet). Scientists say one of them is the deepest photograph of the universe ever taken. Exciting stuff.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/30/james-webbs-first-color-photos-will-also-be-farthest-ever-captured/


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« Reply #3153 on: June 30, 2022, 11:53:50 pm »
The James Web space telescopes first images to be released on July 12th. Cant wait!!. a handful of images already taken (not shown yet). Scientists say one of them is the deepest photograph of the universe ever taken. Exciting stuff.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/30/james-webbs-first-color-photos-will-also-be-farthest-ever-captured/

"Farthest ever captured", do they mean by a telescope? There are plenty of spacecraft that captured color pictures of planets much farther away than the Lagrange point.
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« Reply #3154 on: July 2, 2022, 03:36:31 pm »
"Farthest ever captured", do they mean by a telescope? There are plenty of spacecraft that captured color pictures of planets much farther away than the Lagrange point.

Not planets. Light. In infrared. yeah JWST. Did you read the article? Just wondering as your a more than decent contributor to the thread. The first handful of data, gives us images of objects in deep space previously we have been unable to detect.

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« Reply #3155 on: July 3, 2022, 09:05:39 am »
The James Web space telescopes first images to be released on July 12th. Cant wait!!. a handful of images already taken (not shown yet). Scientists say one of them is the deepest photograph of the universe ever taken. Exciting stuff.

https://petapixel.com/2022/06/30/james-webbs-first-color-photos-will-also-be-farthest-ever-captured/

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Re: Space exploration thread
« Reply #3156 on: July 8, 2022, 05:23:48 pm »
And one of them is a gas planet.


 Target(s) acquired! 

The targets of Webb’s first images have been announced: https://t.co/6BNlHANxTd

✨ SMACS 0723

✨ WASP-96b

✨ Southern Ring Nebula

✨ Stephan’s Quintet

✨ Carina Nebula

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« Reply #3157 on: July 11, 2022, 10:13:17 pm »
First image preview from the white house in 20 minutes

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« Reply #3158 on: July 11, 2022, 10:15:36 pm »
Just read this thread. Wow. Like to see what is released of these images.

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« Reply #3159 on: July 11, 2022, 11:16:11 pm »
It's just started
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