Author Topic: CUP FINAL - Chelsea 2-1 Liverpool: Full time (Read 113835 times)

Nut/ella · « **Reply #360 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:29 pm »

We were really robbed. They weren't better than us in the first half. Overall, we were the better team. I was saying to my mate after the first 10 mins, that Dowd is not going to give anything on our favour. Turned out right. Please show me one outside call he gave for us. At least 2, in the entire 90. Robbed really. Don't even have the composure to type all this. They all ca nfuck off. Proud of the performance. Went down fighting.

BEAST · « **Reply #361 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:30 pm »

Next season we must move to a 433 with Carroll up top doing all the dirty work, Suarez on the right, and for the love of god, a MASSIVE UPGRADE is needed over Downing on the left. Get someone up top that can provide goals and proper service.

Bring back Aqua because we are not in a position to just assume that Hendo and Shelvey will be all grown up over the summer

Camarero25 · « **Reply #362 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:36 pm »

What's the plan off the ball? Really, what is it? We don't seem to fucking have one. We just sit back incredibly deep in our own half and wait for the opposition to make a mistake. No pressing, no shape, nothing.

Shocking season. Fucking shocking.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #363 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:37 pm »

People moaning about the line up need to shut up. We got the back four we wanted. If not Spearing then Shelvey was the only option. He may have done better but we will never know. Carroll was great but pre game most were asking for Bellamy and pace over height.

kcbworth · « **Reply #364 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:37 pm »

It was in imho. Quite clearly so really. Plenty of goals given with wayyy more doubt that this one.

LiverBirdKop · « **Reply #365 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:38 pm »

Even with the best technology, imagine if we had it and the replay showed the ball was 1 millimeter on top of the line....fuck.

I'd be happy if a couple of our players never wore the red jersey again. It speaks volumes of some players that they couldn't get up for a final for most of the game.

JLFC · « **Reply #366 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:38 pm »

It was over the line look at the post by cactusman I think and the trajectory clear as day.

Cannot fuckin believe it...I'm fuming and we only woke up when Carroll came on

Kochevnik · « **Reply #367 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:42 pm »

I know this will be shouted down here and won't be popular at all, but I'm pretty disappointed with Kenny today.

No, not for the team selection, I thought that was fine. I would have preferred to see the one that was leaked first with Carroll, but I was pleased to see him start Bellamy and thought we had a good chance at the beginning of the game.

What I'm disappointed in is the fight the players showed. Now, you can say that's down to the players and not the manager, but for me one of the primary responsibilities of the manager is to see that the players are up for the game, and change things if they aren't. He did eventually bring on Carroll, and it changed the game, but the way we were so flat for the first 65 minutes is inexcusable to me. I never, ever want to see Liverpool players putting on a red shirt who aren't prepared to give everything for the team, and our whole team was lacking in that department in the first half. Part of that has to fall on Kenny, in my opinion.

I'm not saying I want him to go, because I'm honestly not sure what I think there (it would partly depend on who we would be bringing in behind him - the number of people I'd trust more than Kenny as Liverpool manager is a very small one), but I think he has to be held partly responsible for our woeful showing in that first half. We did well to make a game of it, but too often this season we've just sort of accepted what the opposition wants to do for the first half or 60 minutes, and that has to change next season.

lfcmaster · « **Reply #368 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:43 pm »

andy will score on tuesday night

Johnnyboy1973 · « **Reply #369 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:50 pm »

Cant argue really. Didn't think we turned up until we were two down.

Just to much averageness in our squad.

I can name five players that I think are good enough to be a regular in a top four side, a couple that could be debated and done.

I've never felt Carroll to be good enough but his cameo was encouraging even if we did just pump it continuously upon his arrival.

duke8 · « **Reply #370 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:50 pm »

Quote from: kelevra on May 5, 2012, 07:11:47 pm

Think we lost it more than Chelsea winning it. We didn't turn up till an hour into the match. Inexcusable

exactly correct. what was the tactic in the first half?
We lost that when we could have won it if we had played the whole 90.
typical of this season.
frustrated

Darren G · « **Reply #371 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:51 pm »

Quote from: .Mike on May 5, 2012, 07:25:53 pm

Where were we the first 60 minutes?

Within thirty yards of our own goal line. Except for Suarez, who was completely isolated, about forty yards from the nearest Liverpool player and marked by two centre-backs with nothing else to do. Genius! Top move having Henderson on the right again as well; I mean, he's done so fucking well there in the past hasn't he.

They were there for the taking. I just hope that Bayern fucking slaughter the horrible bastards in the Champions League so I can slow-mo replay c*nts like Terry and Drogba crying.

Well done to the fans yet again. Not often that all you can hear is the losing side's support at the end of the game.

lessthanmatt · « **Reply #372 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:55 pm »

Very hard to tell if that ball was over or not. Not sure if the people who are claiming it definitely was would still be saying so if it had happened exactly like that at the other end.

You can't blame the linesman. Though really he shouldn't have to make that decision anyway; GOAL-LINE TECHNOLOGY, SHEESH. How many more big game incidents must there be to make it happen?

(my gut feeling still says it was over though)

Melbred · « **Reply #373 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:55 pm »

We wanted it to be a goal, but really it wasn't.

If we're not even sure now, then how can the ref make a conclusive decision? In the end ref made the right call, and we didn't get the luck we needed.

-Q- · « **Reply #374 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:58 pm »

Quote from: .Mike on May 5, 2012, 07:31:08 pm

It was in.

Given that that is taken from about 5 degrees and the post is slightly obscuring the view, I would say that is in, but either way it is impossible for the officials to tell

Gutted.

Our No.9 never dives · « **Reply #375 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:33:58 pm »

Quote from: lfcmaster on May 5, 2012, 07:29:49 pm

3 urgent needs for next season

1 new striker
1 wide midfielder
1 midfielder to cover for lucas

Looking at Spearing performance, I think the urgent thing we need is a backup for Lucas.

Lawnmowerman · « **Reply #376 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:09 pm »

How fucking hard is it to have an extra official standing by the goal

Heighwayondawing · « **Reply #377 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:10 pm »

Obviously gutted over this. Also gutted that certain players in this squad have failed full stop after all of the chances afforded them. Really thought we would be further along at this point.

J-Mc- · « **Reply #378 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:13 pm »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on May 5, 2012, 07:33:09 pm

Means fuck all J Mc. We were poor, CFC were shyte but we didn't deserve anything.

Not arguing mate, but that should have been counted.

Only positive to take is we can only move forward from this and hopefully sort ourselves out for next season.

Get · « **Reply #379 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:21 pm »

Andy Carroll what a player. if he continues that way we have a monster of a player

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #380 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:21 pm »

What the f*** is the point of this debate?

Maybe it went in, maybe it didn't. Doesn't help us now.

We all mock Jose for continuing to be bitter about 2005, but all we should be discussing is our performance generally. Chelsea were better for the first hour, we were MUCH better for the last 30. Shame we couldn't force extra time but we have to learn from this and move on.

A shame for our as ever excellent fans that the players didn't turn up for so long, but we will be back. Need some investment in the summer, and press on for a top 4 spot next year.

BEAST · « **Reply #381 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:26 pm »

Also, how big of a joke is it when our 6'4 center forward is a better crosser of the ball than most of our wide players and fullbacks?

AriGold · « **Reply #382 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:40 pm »

Carroll should have started I think. Correct decision given for the goal (or no goal in the end) aswell. Just wasn't our day.

JJ Red · « **Reply #383 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:44 pm »

I don't think we should get too excited about the last 30 mins, that was clearly Chelsea's season catching up with them. There was a stage after they got their second when we seemed to almost give up and they could have easily got a 3rd.

The main thing we need to focus on is why we were so lethargic and crappy for the first 60 mins.

We came back into it because Carroll came on and did very well. He, along with obvious tiredness from Chelsea, got us back into the match rather than a sudden urgency or change in tactics.

Very dissapointing. On to next season i suppose.

Believe · « **Reply #384 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:45 pm »

No justice in football based on this result. Again 2 shots on target and a win, and the less said about their disgusting Hillsborough slurs the better. Hope Bayern fuck them.

AC should have started but all I am annoyed about is CFC, c*nts fir players and c*nts for fans.

bailey90 · « **Reply #385 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:46 pm »

Hoping Andy takes his form over the last few weeks and really kicks on the start of next season.

Worst 1st half performance I've seen us play in a long time. One of best last 30 mins I've seen us play in a while.

Whether first half performance was down to the formation itself or the players weren't staying in their positions I'm not sure. I'm inclined to believe the former is true though.

Gutted is an understatement but onwards and upwards!

YNWA

TravisBickle · « **Reply #386 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:48 pm »

• The ball was over the line.

• Andy Carroll was absolutely immense.

• Jay Spearing is horrific. Lucas cannot get back soon enough.

• Disappointing end to a horrible, horrible season.

• (shut the fuck up about Rafa)

Red Eyed · « **Reply #387 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:51 pm »

Andy Carroll take a bow, travelling fans take a bow, shit for an hour but what a fight back. I still fucking love this club and hope Kenny stays, You'll Never Walk Alone.

Camarero25 · « **Reply #388 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:52 pm »

Quote from: to get rid of the One. on May 5, 2012, 07:33:29 pm

We were really robbed. They weren't better than us in the first half. Overall, we were the better team. I was saying to my mate after the first 10 mins, that Dowd is not going to give anything on our favour. Turned out right. Please show me one outside call he gave for us. At least 2, in the entire 90. Robbed really. Don't even have the composure to type all this. They all ca nfuck off. Proud of the performance. Went down fighting.

We weren't the better team. We did fuck all for 60 minutes and then, surprise surprise, when we actually started trying we looked good.

Red James · « **Reply #389 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:53 pm »

Quote from: brad147690 on May 5, 2012, 07:33:14 pm

Capello said he wants to manage an English club so what about him? Always had a good record. Won't settle for players not giving it their all like Henderson and Downing.

I'm pissed we lost as well, especially to them, but calling for Kenny's head isn't doing any good. Just think for a second.

jack witham · « **Reply #390 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:34:53 pm »

We have a massive problem in the middle of the park,midfield is the engine room
we have gone from Alonso Mascherano and Gerrard to Spearing,Henderson and Gerrard.
That is the crux of our problems this season,until we sort out our midfield we will struggle.
Chelsea did not have to play well to beat us we beat ourselves,shit happens.
Can I just say Andy Carroll was immense when he came on this lad deserves our respect.
He was almost unplayable and dragged us back into a game that was passing us by.
Hats off to the big man at least you gave us hope.

SerbianScouser · « **Reply #391 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:08 pm »

Enrique should be forbidden to go forward. Its amazing how ineffective he is going forward. The whole freakin season same old.

Poor Jay. I really like him for the reason that he plays with passion and cares for the team but he is so limited and below lifc standard that it makes you wanna cry.

Downing...everyone said it already.

Skrtel, Agger, Johnson, Gerrard, Suarez were ok. Bellamy had an off game, it happens.

If Kenny stays for the next season we need to get the right players, it doesnt matter what kind of policy is that it has to be the right player policy.

Ray K · « **Reply #392 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:11 pm »

ShitFuckBollocksWank.

Why the fuck did we only play from the 65 min mark? How can we look like Wolves for an hour and Real Madrid for 25 mins? Why are we so fucking frustrating?

Nobody will ever convince me that Carroll didn't score that one. Why are we still arguing about this in the 21st century when the technology is there?

The opening hour is what will fuck us right off in the days to come.

Great performance from Andy. Wish I could say the same about certain other players.

andymanlfc · « **Reply #393 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:14 pm »

Wasn't a goal for me. Whole balls got to be over the line and seeing as u can't see all of the ball must mean it didn't go in. Surprised the linesman didn't give it though as in that split second it's hard to judge.

steveeastend · « **Reply #394 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:21 pm »

Of course it was in but with english refs you know they will get it wrong right from the beginning.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #395 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:22 pm »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on May 5, 2012, 07:33:09 pm

Means fuck all J Mc.

Blarf · « **Reply #396 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:33 pm »

Quote from: Kashinoda on May 5, 2012, 07:29:01 pm

I saw this still on TV and it's misleading, it's paused after it already hits Cech's glove... it was actually about an inch and a half further into the goal.

If we're splitting hairs I could say that when it hit Cech's hand his hand propably moved to the right (in the picture) so when ball hit his hand it was even closer to the goal line.

-Q- · « **Reply #397 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:38 pm »

Quote from: Twelfth Man on May 5, 2012, 07:33:09 pm

Means fuck all J Mc. We were poor, CFC were shyte but we didn't deserve anything.

Yes... we did. At the very least, we deserved a draw - that is clear, 2 goals to CFC (that we gifted them) and 2 goals to LFC.

Paul_h · « **Reply #398 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:42 pm »

At least we didn't go down without a fight...can't fault the 2nd half perfromance. Carroll was hugely influental in turning the game around. wish he hit that kind of form earlier on in the season.

goals were conceeded too softly in my opinion.Spearing did have a mare, and was rightly subbed. But throught the game the final ball was too often, not quite right.

we can still f*ck up the renties season, when they come up to Anfield on tues. they could be without CL footie next season, hopefully

B0151? · « **Reply #399 on:** May 5, 2012, 07:35:45 pm »

Quote from: inexorably red on May 5, 2012, 07:31:44 pm

our luck had to run out in a final at some point but i just cant get over how fucking poor we were in the first half, has Enrique ever had such a poor game, if we get that version of Carroll every week i cant wait !!!!! still he should have scored with that header

true lad we haven't had any luck this season, bar the carling cup final maybe. we did give ourselves too much to do, éven for us this time though.
i don't know whether it was over the line, it didn't look it but how fuckin lucky was it that it hit the bar in an angle that it would bounce out the way it did? not lucky at all. we did play horrendous in the first half though.

if we have carroll on that form next season with lucas back, couple additions

mmmmmm