Milik has only played 191 min of football so he's not included. The other two are listed as Midfielders by Opta so are not included in this chart.
We need it sorted before the WC, ideally it would have already been sorted as I can see PSG/Madrid even Barca activating the release clause - especially if he has a stellar wc.
Opta list him as a Midfielder (I know!) so he's not included here.
Is it easy to pull the same chart together for midfielders?
Yep, although it starts getting a little more crowded... I'll post this here but it's not really Firmino related.Bear in mind that this includes all midfielders (defensive and attacking alike) as well as some forwards, I'm currently working on something to help separate this further/better than the current Opta settings.
Not just the league - don't forget he went back to spain, initially with Sevilla on loan, and was pretty poor. It was only when he went back to Celta that he started scoring again, and it was pretty immediate. Remember reading about how much he loves Celta, the fact he is from there, etc. - which was being given as the reason he failed everywhere else.
yer ma should have called you Paolo Zico Gerry Socrates HELLRAZOR
Seems like Bentaleb is having a stormer based on that
He looked a very good player at Tottenham, was so shocked they let him leave. I'd forgotten all about him until i saw his name in the line up when i watched Schalke Dortmund the other day
Harry Kane still claims him as a Spurs player.
It is impressive to see how well Lucas Leiva is doing in Lazio and showing his quality as defensive midfielder.
Can't help but notice Suso on the earlier chart too...
In the 130-year history of Football, Roberto Firmino becomes the first player to create 50+ chances and complete 60+ tackles in a single seasonAdd to that, 14 assists and 25 goals this season and counting!@footballfact
Given the progression of the modern forward he almost certainly is, but detailed stats have only been recorded since 2006
Probably best I don't tell you where Luis Alberto is on the Midfielders' Chart then.Has anyone found Wally yet?
Good for him. Needless to say he wouldn't get near to our first team.
Is Alberto doing well?And yeah, I don't think Suso would be displacing the front three, or even a couple of our mids, but I wouldn't put it past him to be challenging in the middle. We have a good unit, but it's not like our mids are immoveable in the same way our forwards are. Would've liked to see him develop in this philosophy. But that is probably nostalgia, I always liked him.But I didn't mean to spark anything with my comment. Just an observation.
Is Alberto doing well?
This isn't truehttps://twitter.com/oilysailor/status/986899284846145536?s=19
Opta have been around about 20 years. Wonder where he got his data from for the 110 years before them.
Any updates on his new deal? I suggest a lifetime contract
Quickly threw this together from the top 5 leagues & the Championship based on this post, just to see potential backups. Remember to factor in the leagues when taking into account the stats here....I've just thrown in the Forwards as defined by Opta but take that with a pinch of salt, for example you won't find Mane in here as he is listed as a Midfield player by Opta.For further breakdown feel free to check the tableau page where you can filter by league and also see full name /club when hovering.https://public.tableau.com/profile/jcbviz#!/vizhome/AttackingvsDefensiveStats17042018/AttackingvsDefensiveStats-Forwards?publish=yesEdit: Forgot to mention I have filtered the above by players who have played more than 900 minutes this season.
Call it simplistic, but surely the ideal solution as backup to Firmino is to take someone who has the attacking stats and then get them to make one more tackle a game. Easier than it sounds I know but that's what Klopp's specialty has been. Taking players to the next level
I'll be honest, I'm a little apprehensive about him not having signed a new deal yet. I doubt anything's going to get announced whilst we're still in the Champions League so hopefully soon after that. He's perfect for this team.
I can't see any reason why either the club or the player wouldn't want a deal sorted out so it should be fine.
If you think about it, he’s actually close to the perfect player. Only other player in world football I’ve said that about in my life watching football, is Gerrard.
He doesn't have pace. If he had that he'd be elite level.
Good all round player but at times not decisive and ruthless enough in front of goal. Swansea misses come to mind and last match took ages to strike on goal, ending up with a Bournemouth defender blocking his shot. A few shots skied high above the bar or at keeper’s ideal height for a save. Not criticising, but pointing out areas for improvement- which, if addressed, will even make a complete world class package.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.
Genuinely think he was trying to set up Mo there
