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« Reply #10760 on: June 2, 2015, 05:42:48 am »
Well done on the Heysel special.
It was a very professional job and felt like a balanced and honest look at a dark moment in football's past.

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« Reply #10761 on: June 2, 2015, 09:11:41 am »
I was thinking the same, I wouldn't put it passed them to have spoken to Klopp and agreed that there's a job available if it doesn't work out with Brendan. That may be xmas or it may be a full year.

i think the thing that would annoy me the most if that was the case is if you're going to give a new manager time, let him have that time from the summer, let him have a pre season with the players so that they get used to the ideas he has. Doing all this in Dec/January time is pointless, he's not going to be able to implement his way of thinking at all and he's going to be under immediate pressure to get results and people expecting the team to play the way he loves his teams to play... if that is Liverpool's intentions then it's quite frankly ridiculous. Not to mention as well it puts more pressure on Brendan if he has knowledge that if things go tits up next season then he's gonna get the boot and then put the club in further crisis... plus as well all you do is put a drama on each week now for next season if he is to remain in charge, as soon as we lose a game, then the pressure mounts on him and then it's an uphill struggle.

I think with regards to the end of season review pt 1 - i think John, Jim & Steve all made valid points, and it was good of TAW to let Jim on to say his piece because he has been more than vocal about Rodgers for a while now.

I would agree with the overall assessment that there needs to be a change somewhere, i think if they are going to keep Brendan than restrict his role to coaching only. Don't let him have a say on targets or minimise his role on that and bring in someone who has an experienced head and respect amongst the world of football to come in, have a profile for the type of players the club wants and get those players.

For some of the critism that Jim gets, he makes some valid points. I think he has every right to point out the coaching time line as it is a worrying trend really. For a manager managing a club with not only domestic aspirations, but also European aspirations... we can't be having excuses of "I aint getting a lot of time on the training pitches so thats why our team is not performing"... every successful club out there now who reguarly competes in europe as well as in their own domestic league have to do this and they manage fine. It can't be an excuse and it has to be eradicated otherwise you might as well be a manager for a club who don't have european aspirations or who aren't as successful... Did the job come too soon for him... probably but its not something you can hold against him, it's the club you can hold that against, or it was at the time an acceptable risk that they decided to take by employing Brendan. Again nothing really you can hold anything against Rodgers about.

I think overall the transfers have ultimately let the side down, the strategy (if you can call it that) that was in place was flawed it turns out, and again they need to change their approach, change how they do business, keep Ian Ayre away from footballing matters and let him concentrate on commercial deals etc... but ultimately the club needs to say "Brendan/new manager/whoever, we want to see our team play like this. We are going to target players that match this way so go make sure the team plays this way."

What we don't want is for Brendan to feel begrudged about working with changes, i.e. a DoF, his work limited to just coaching, because he has shown that if he doesn't like something, he'll rebel to it. He's done it with players brought in, if he doesn't want them then he bombs them out. Will he rebel to changes forced upon him, i.e. if player x that he doesn't want comes in for a big fee, and he relegates them to the bench, how is that going to go down. Also i think the last point i can make of Rodgers, he's got to be careful what he says in the media as well... again another line of opening yourself up for being attacked by some of the things he says. Normally he's very good at this side of things, but he he's come out with some classics which unfortunately all lead to more pressure on him... the whole "where we are is about par"... "Spurs spend £100M you'd expect them to be challenging for the league" etc...

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« Reply #10762 on: June 2, 2015, 10:41:13 am »
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10763 on: June 2, 2015, 12:03:38 pm »

I would agree with the overall assessment that there needs to be a change somewhere, i think if they are going to keep Brendan than restrict his role to coaching only. Don't let him have a say on targets or minimise his role on that and bring in someone who has an experienced head and respect amongst the world of football to come in, have a profile for the type of players the club wants and get those players.

I'd like to agree with this, but without knowing who's the driving force behind signing the likes of Benteke, it's hard to know who to back.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10764 on: June 2, 2015, 10:52:37 pm »
LIVERPOOL: RODGERS IT IS THEN

by David Segar // 2 June 2015 // 1 Comment

AFTER what has felt like months of speculation (it’s been two-and-a-half weeks…), the manager situation has finally been put to bed. Brendan Rodgers will remain as Liverpool boss… for now.

There had apparently been leaks of information — something which seems to happen an inordinate amount at Liverpool these days — that Rodgers was safe, but something just didn’t feel right about it all.

Why did the owners make him sweat on it for half a month if they had no intention of sacking him? Why did Tom Werner feel the need to come to England to do his review when he couldn’t be arsed doing the same for Steven Gerrard’s last game? And, perhaps most curious of all, why wasn’t Rodgers sacked when Kenny Dalglish, who had just won a cup and been to an FA Cup final, was?

What has been especially odd about it all has been the timing. Not just that it’s taken this long and that it was leaked to journalists at roughly the same time as Sepp Blatter’s resignation (how convenient), but almost the entire timeline.

For those who wanted Rodgers out in the immediate aftermath of Stoke City 6 Liverpool 1, no news was bad news. For better or worse, there was to be no reactionary sacking to that humiliation. It was going to come down to the infamous end-of-season review.

However, early indications from sources said to be close to FSG were that Rodgers’ job wasn’t even going to be in question, let alone on the line at the review.

Just after the season had ended, there were cries for the manager’s head, but online polls seemed to have the fans split at roughly 60-40 against Rodgers, taking into account a few thousand desperately tragic opposition football fans who like to skew the results.

It was perhaps right that the owners were going to let a cooler head prevail. Potential replacements hadn’t even finished in their current roles, there was no need to rush what was going to be a massive decision.

However, two weeks later and not only had the fans who wanted Rodgers out not relented from their stance, but they’d been joined by roughly an extra 20 per cent. New polls recently were showing it was now 80-20 in favour of change. Whatever your own opinion was, that’s toxic — particularly when you consider that a poll in Madrid suggested that 65 per cent of Real fans wanted Carlo Ancelotti to stay before he was dismissed.

As well as Rodgers’ failings last season, a major reason people wanted change was the potential to replace him with someone of the ilk of Ancelotti or hipsters’ favourite Jurgen Klopp. This is where the story started to get very curious.

In the media, Rodgers’ position went from ‘not in question’, to ‘vulnerable’. Odds shifted significantly, too. A few days ago there was a story leaked that Rodgers was definitely safe, but then the German media went with a story that Klopp would be interested in the Anfield hot seat should he be offered it, in spite of stories that he wanted to take a sabbatical. Exactly the same regarding Ancelotti came from the Spanish media, or in particular, the Madrid media.

Unsurprisingly, stories the next day were that Rodgers’ position was now under serious threat. Tongues were wagging up and down the land and across the world, with Liverpool fans in the main salivating at the prospect of either the German or the Italian being in the Reds’ dugout come August.

Speculation reached fever pitch when the very reliable Jonathan Northcroft of the Sunday Times reported that the Liverpool hierarchy were indeed considering other options, including Klopp, if after the review they decided a change was necessary.

On Monday, Klopp confirmed that he was to take a break from football. A day later, and Rodgers’ safety is confirmed, and mere minutes after, Ancelotti tweeted saying that he’d turned down a return to Milan to take some time off.

Could it be that FSG have given Rodgers his last warning, knowing that should they need to pull the trigger halfway through the season, they may have a well rested Klopp and/or Ancelotti to choose from? Or are they merely backing the man they hired or, more to the point, their own decision to hire him in the first place?

There will be a thousand different stories on what really went on, but the timing of it all was a little too coincidental. Maybe they didn’t fancy Klopp, who has just come off a very trying season himself, or Ancelotti, who would surely have kicked up a bit of a fuss about the transfer setup. Or maybe both indicated they weren’t interested. Or maybe neither were ever contacted or even under consideration in the first place.

Something that doesn’t sit right with me is this. The question of the manager’s position was apparently left to the review. This was a meeting between three men, Rodgers, Werner and Mike Gordon. Of that trio, Rodgers outdoes the other two in football knowledge by a significant distance. I just have this scene playing out in my head where they ask Rodgers if he’s the man for the job, he says yes, and they say, “Well you know the game better than we do, so we’ll take your word for it.”

Anyway, what’s done is done. Rodgers stays, but why?

Perhaps it’s his willingness to work with the transfer committee setup. Reports initially suggested that FSG were planning a major overhaul of the committee, and were going to ditch it altogether in favour of their initial plan to have a single Director of Football, which would be a condition that Rodgers would now have to accept after rejecting it when he took over three years ago.

However, recent reports indicate that FSG still have complete faith in the transfer committee set up, in spite of it’s many failings, and that appears to be the most likely scenario. If they had intended on changing the setup, why haven’t they done it already? Why is the club making bids for numerous players presumably selected by said transfer committee? If you make that change you do it in February, not June.

Rodgers had a tremendously big job on his hands when he came in three years ago. Now, if anything, he has even more to do and to prove. He has to convince the vast majority of the fanbase that he can turn things around, and he has to convince a dressing room that appeared to largely hang him out to dry at Stoke that he should be the one managing them.

He also has to get Liverpool playing like Liverpool again.

Talk to anyone about the situation and you’ll get different arguments, opinions and sometimes facts (“Lovren made more errors that led to goals last season than the whole of League One combined!”) but one thing that is constant is that everyone mentions the style and substance of the general play, or lack thereof.

Last season was awful from Spurs away onwards, with the slight turning of the corner between December and March. However, the football still wasn’t anything you could hang your hat on during that time, and the spectacular way in which it all unraveled showed just how flimsy and superficial it had been.

When Rodgers arrived he titillated us with phrases like ‘death by football’ and teams coming to Anfield to face ‘the longest 90 minutes of their lives’. There have been periods during his time in L4 where he’s achieved this, but they’ve been too infrequent and too skin deep. Rodgers needs to give his team an identity, a consistent method of playing that builds a trust in him from his players that it will be enough to beat anyone if they execute it well.

The main thing that will concern me, and should definitely concern Rodgers, is that more so than ever the knives will be out. Just look at the reaction to losing to Manchester United in March. After three months unbeaten, one defeat was enough to turn a large amount of the crowd (admittedly in a crucial game against bitter rivals) against him. The way things are right now, even if he starts the season with 15 straight wins, a defeat against a Newcastle or a Swansea will inevitably bring back the “I told you so! Rodgers out!” comments.

He wanted more coaching time last season. Well this is his chance. After a good rest and chance to clear his head, a pre-season with very little disruption from international tournaments and plenty of time to spend with his players before it all kicks off again in mid-August, Rodgers has no excuses. If he can’t make a team out of these lads in those circumstances, he can’t do it at all.

Transfers will be crucial, they always are, and the strong links so far to Milner, Ings, Clyne and Benteke are, to me at least, somewhat underwhelming and certainly uninspired. As Times journalist and TAW contributor Rory Smith said this week on The Game football podcast, if they really are Liverpool’s targets then FSG could save a lot of money by firing their scouts. A five-year old who has watched Match of the Day a handful of times could have identified those players.

I, like I’m sure many of you, had fallen in love with the idea of Klopp coming in. I had my ‘Kloppite’ scarves, mugs, t-shirts and superlambanas ready to go, but alas he will not be Liverpool manager… just yet.

The new season is just two and a half months away, and like it or not, Liverpool will head into 2015-16 with Brendan Rodgers as their manager… for now.

Over to you, Brendan.

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/06/liverpool-rodgers/

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10765 on: June 3, 2015, 05:48:32 am »
LIVERPOOL: RODGERS IT IS THEN

by David Segar // 2 June 2015 // 1 Comment

AFTER what has felt like months of speculation (it’s been two-and-a-half weeks…), the manager situation has finally been put to bed. Brendan Rodgers will remain as Liverpool boss… for now.

There had apparently been leaks of information — something which seems to happen an inordinate amount at Liverpool these days — that Rodgers was safe, but something just didn’t feel right about it all.

Why did the owners make him sweat on it for half a month if they had no intention of sacking him? Why did Tom Werner feel the need to come to England to do his review when he couldn’t be arsed doing the same for Steven Gerrard’s last game? And, perhaps most curious of all, why wasn’t Rodgers sacked when Kenny Dalglish, who had just won a cup and been to an FA Cup final, was?

What has been especially odd about it all has been the timing. Not just that it’s taken this long and that it was leaked to journalists at roughly the same time as Sepp Blatter’s resignation (how convenient), but almost the entire timeline.

For those who wanted Rodgers out in the immediate aftermath of Stoke City 6 Liverpool 1, no news was bad news. For better or worse, there was to be no reactionary sacking to that humiliation. It was going to come down to the infamous end-of-season review.

However, early indications from sources said to be close to FSG were that Rodgers’ job wasn’t even going to be in question, let alone on the line at the review.

Just after the season had ended, there were cries for the manager’s head, but online polls seemed to have the fans split at roughly 60-40 against Rodgers, taking into account a few thousand desperately tragic opposition football fans who like to skew the results.

It was perhaps right that the owners were going to let a cooler head prevail. Potential replacements hadn’t even finished in their current roles, there was no need to rush what was going to be a massive decision.

However, two weeks later and not only had the fans who wanted Rodgers out not relented from their stance, but they’d been joined by roughly an extra 20 per cent. New polls recently were showing it was now 80-20 in favour of change. Whatever your own opinion was, that’s toxic — particularly when you consider that a poll in Madrid suggested that 65 per cent of Real fans wanted Carlo Ancelotti to stay before he was dismissed.

As well as Rodgers’ failings last season, a major reason people wanted change was the potential to replace him with someone of the ilk of Ancelotti or hipsters’ favourite Jurgen Klopp. This is where the story started to get very curious.

In the media, Rodgers’ position went from ‘not in question’, to ‘vulnerable’. Odds shifted significantly, too. A few days ago there was a story leaked that Rodgers was definitely safe, but then the German media went with a story that Klopp would be interested in the Anfield hot seat should he be offered it, in spite of stories that he wanted to take a sabbatical. Exactly the same regarding Ancelotti came from the Spanish media, or in particular, the Madrid media.

Unsurprisingly, stories the next day were that Rodgers’ position was now under serious threat. Tongues were wagging up and down the land and across the world, with Liverpool fans in the main salivating at the prospect of either the German or the Italian being in the Reds’ dugout come August.

Speculation reached fever pitch when the very reliable Jonathan Northcroft of the Sunday Times reported that the Liverpool hierarchy were indeed considering other options, including Klopp, if after the review they decided a change was necessary.

On Monday, Klopp confirmed that he was to take a break from football. A day later, and Rodgers’ safety is confirmed, and mere minutes after, Ancelotti tweeted saying that he’d turned down a return to Milan to take some time off.

Could it be that FSG have given Rodgers his last warning, knowing that should they need to pull the trigger halfway through the season, they may have a well rested Klopp and/or Ancelotti to choose from? Or are they merely backing the man they hired or, more to the point, their own decision to hire him in the first place?

There will be a thousand different stories on what really went on, but the timing of it all was a little too coincidental. Maybe they didn’t fancy Klopp, who has just come off a very trying season himself, or Ancelotti, who would surely have kicked up a bit of a fuss about the transfer setup. Or maybe both indicated they weren’t interested. Or maybe neither were ever contacted or even under consideration in the first place.

Something that doesn’t sit right with me is this. The question of the manager’s position was apparently left to the review. This was a meeting between three men, Rodgers, Werner and Mike Gordon. Of that trio, Rodgers outdoes the other two in football knowledge by a significant distance. I just have this scene playing out in my head where they ask Rodgers if he’s the man for the job, he says yes, and they say, “Well you know the game better than we do, so we’ll take your word for it.”

Anyway, what’s done is done. Rodgers stays, but why?

Perhaps it’s his willingness to work with the transfer committee setup. Reports initially suggested that FSG were planning a major overhaul of the committee, and were going to ditch it altogether in favour of their initial plan to have a single Director of Football, which would be a condition that Rodgers would now have to accept after rejecting it when he took over three years ago.

However, recent reports indicate that FSG still have complete faith in the transfer committee set up, in spite of it’s many failings, and that appears to be the most likely scenario. If they had intended on changing the setup, why haven’t they done it already? Why is the club making bids for numerous players presumably selected by said transfer committee? If you make that change you do it in February, not June.

Rodgers had a tremendously big job on his hands when he came in three years ago. Now, if anything, he has even more to do and to prove. He has to convince the vast majority of the fanbase that he can turn things around, and he has to convince a dressing room that appeared to largely hang him out to dry at Stoke that he should be the one managing them.

He also has to get Liverpool playing like Liverpool again.

Talk to anyone about the situation and you’ll get different arguments, opinions and sometimes facts (“Lovren made more errors that led to goals last season than the whole of League One combined!”) but one thing that is constant is that everyone mentions the style and substance of the general play, or lack thereof.

Last season was awful from Spurs away onwards, with the slight turning of the corner between December and March. However, the football still wasn’t anything you could hang your hat on during that time, and the spectacular way in which it all unraveled showed just how flimsy and superficial it had been.

When Rodgers arrived he titillated us with phrases like ‘death by football’ and teams coming to Anfield to face ‘the longest 90 minutes of their lives’. There have been periods during his time in L4 where he’s achieved this, but they’ve been too infrequent and too skin deep. Rodgers needs to give his team an identity, a consistent method of playing that builds a trust in him from his players that it will be enough to beat anyone if they execute it well.

The main thing that will concern me, and should definitely concern Rodgers, is that more so than ever the knives will be out. Just look at the reaction to losing to Manchester United in March. After three months unbeaten, one defeat was enough to turn a large amount of the crowd (admittedly in a crucial game against bitter rivals) against him. The way things are right now, even if he starts the season with 15 straight wins, a defeat against a Newcastle or a Swansea will inevitably bring back the “I told you so! Rodgers out!” comments.

He wanted more coaching time last season. Well this is his chance. After a good rest and chance to clear his head, a pre-season with very little disruption from international tournaments and plenty of time to spend with his players before it all kicks off again in mid-August, Rodgers has no excuses. If he can’t make a team out of these lads in those circumstances, he can’t do it at all.

Transfers will be crucial, they always are, and the strong links so far to Milner, Ings, Clyne and Benteke are, to me at least, somewhat underwhelming and certainly uninspired. As Times journalist and TAW contributor Rory Smith said this week on The Game football podcast, if they really are Liverpool’s targets then FSG could save a lot of money by firing their scouts. A five-year old who has watched Match of the Day a handful of times could have identified those players.

I, like I’m sure many of you, had fallen in love with the idea of Klopp coming in. I had my ‘Kloppite’ scarves, mugs, t-shirts and superlambanas ready to go, but alas he will not be Liverpool manager… just yet.

The new season is just two and a half months away, and like it or not, Liverpool will head into 2015-16 with Brendan Rodgers as their manager… for now.

Over to you, Brendan.

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/06/liverpool-rodgers/
So keeping Brendan was an effort to distract from Blatter resigning or the other way around?
Most likely Klopp has been told to be ready for Christmas should BR's first season be repeated. We certainly can't  rely on him turning it around, when he can't even identify his player's best positions.
Maybe  Ings will prove a world beater with better service from Coutinho. Milner might show the leadership, tenacity and flexibilty we need. Forget Benteke, on the the evidence of the final, he can only play against us!

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10766 on: June 3, 2015, 10:31:00 pm »
some good points in this season review

Melissa, Paul and Mike all excellent. Especially the part about some of the dread that I think about next season if things don't go well from the start.
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« Reply #10767 on: June 3, 2015, 10:55:19 pm »
What's the uptake on the subscription been like out of interest?

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« Reply #10768 on: June 4, 2015, 07:46:23 am »
Something is a described as 'a perfect storm' at least once in every episode. Can this please be stopped?

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« Reply #10769 on: June 4, 2015, 10:27:49 pm »
Is it just me but when I play the latest GIT its different to the one able to be downloaded?

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« Reply #10770 on: June 4, 2015, 10:28:32 pm »
Something is a described as 'a perfect storm' at least once in every episode. Can this please be stopped?
See also 'fundamentally'.

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« Reply #10771 on: June 5, 2015, 01:52:41 am »
See also 'fundamentally'.

There's this idea that fundamentally there's a perfect storm. :D
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« Reply #10772 on: June 5, 2015, 03:24:29 am »
That was the only way for us to massively overachieve as we did. I only wish some of his predecessors took that approach rather than the cautious, safety first one which didn`t do anything for them in the league.

If he'd shown a bit of caution against Chelsea, a game we didn't have to win, we'd likely have won the league.  An experienced, top manager would've served up the dullest game imaginable and taken his point.

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« Reply #10773 on: June 5, 2015, 08:12:05 am »
If he'd shown a bit of caution against Chelsea, a game we didn't have to win, we'd likely have won the league.  An experienced, top manager would've served up the dullest game imaginable and taken his point.

Load of shit that.

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« Reply #10774 on: June 5, 2015, 08:16:39 am »
If he'd shown a bit of caution against Chelsea, a game we didn't have to win, we'd likely have won the league.  An experienced, top manager would've served up the dullest game imaginable and taken his point.
Another manager might not of got us challenging for the title in the first place.

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« Reply #10775 on: June 5, 2015, 08:41:32 am »
Load of shit that.

Succinct, and true.
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« Reply #10776 on: June 5, 2015, 08:53:27 am »
The increased content now because of the pay-wall is just top class. Fair play to all those involved, you lot are doing a great job! Being able to release a pod so soon after a big event i.e. signing James Milner, or the quick interview with one of the journo's once that Sterling thing was released a few weeks ago.. It's so good!

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« Reply #10777 on: June 5, 2015, 09:01:05 am »
Sorry I'm sure it's been asked but how do I get all the pods in my normal Podcasts app on iOS? I subscribed a couple of weeks ago but all I get is the free stuff coming in.

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« Reply #10778 on: June 5, 2015, 09:03:47 am »
Sorry I'm sure it's been asked but how do I get all the pods in my normal Podcasts app on iOS? I subscribed a couple of weeks ago but all I get is the free stuff coming in.

There is a separate one to subscribe to for all the paid content. It's called 'TAW Player'

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« Reply #10779 on: June 5, 2015, 09:05:32 am »
Load of shit that.

nah, its probably right....alas it is but water under t'bridge now
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« Reply #10780 on: June 5, 2015, 09:11:20 am »
There is a separate one to subscribe to for all the paid content. It's called 'TAW Player'

Yeah I signed up via TAW Player on the Anfield Wrap website, paid the fiver, but now how do I get all the paid pods in a feed on my iPhone? Is there a TAW Player app?

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10781 on: June 5, 2015, 09:31:21 am »
Yeah I signed up via TAW Player on the Anfield Wrap website, paid the fiver, but now how do I get all the paid pods in a feed on my iPhone? Is there a TAW Player app?

On the 'My Podcasts' tab in the Podcasts app pull down so the search field appears at the top. Paste this link into the search

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/player/subscribe

and you should be good to go.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10782 on: June 5, 2015, 09:38:32 am »
On the 'My Podcasts' tab in the Podcasts app pull down so the search field appears at the top. Paste this link into the search

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/player/subscribe

and you should be good to go.

Worked a treat, superb. Many thanks.

Now for Gutmann in the Gutter...

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10783 on: June 5, 2015, 10:08:43 am »
On the 'My Podcasts' tab in the Podcasts app pull down so the search field appears at the top. Paste this link into the search

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/player/subscribe

and you should be good to go.

Should this work the same on Android? I still can't get my PodcastAddict to add the paid for feed.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10784 on: June 5, 2015, 10:15:20 am »
Anyone else got onto how Neil says ninety?

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10785 on: June 5, 2015, 10:16:14 am »
Load of shit that.

Indeed. You just know if Brendan had played for the draw he'd of got slaughtered from some quarters for not playing the way we had been playing and going for the win.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10786 on: June 5, 2015, 10:30:18 am »
Indeed. You just know if Brendan had played for the draw he'd of got slaughtered from some quarters for not playing the way we had been playing and going for the win.

Or he'd have pulled it off perfectly for 85 minutes only to be undone by a late set piece. It was never that straight forward and we approached that game fine. Positive but not reckless. Although it's been analysed to death since then anyway, doesn't really need me chipping in again!

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10787 on: June 5, 2015, 10:36:54 am »
Indeed. You just know if Brendan had played for the draw he'd of got slaughtered from some quarters for not playing the way we had been playing and going for the win.

It was hardly gung-ho. It was a stale and tense game and then fate decided to call in the favour that it gave us during Istanbul and then the rest was history.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10788 on: June 5, 2015, 11:24:43 am »
If he'd shown a bit of caution against Chelsea, a game we didn't have to win, we'd likely have won the league.  An experienced, top manager would've served up the dullest game imaginable and taken his point.
Rubbish. We weren't under any real pressure in that game until Stevie had his misfortune.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10789 on: June 5, 2015, 12:07:46 pm »
Worked a treat, superb. Many thanks.

Now for Gutmann in the Gutter...

A Manc fella paid subscription for an LFC podcast. Pleasantly surprised at least.  ;D

BTW, did you know that Neil wants the league and only the league and every other competition can fuck off?  ;D Yeah Neil, we want the league more than anything else now too but we get it, eh?
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10790 on: June 5, 2015, 12:13:50 pm »
A Manc fella paid subscription for an LFC podcast. Pleasantly surprised at least.  ;D


Indeed. It's fantastic content and from a non-partisan perspective, my background is football journalism so I'm always keen to read/listen to compelling sports content. As mentioned before, I also know one of the lads who was involved right from the very beginning so I've always been interested to see its journey and development over the years.

I think the Heysel show was award-winning stuff.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10791 on: June 5, 2015, 12:15:40 pm »
Indeed. It's fantastic content and from a non-partisan perspective, my background is football journalism so I'm always keen to read/listen to compelling sports content. As mentioned before, I also know one of the lads who was involved right from the very beginning so I've always been interested to see its journey and development over the years.

I think the Heysel show was award-winning stuff.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10792 on: June 5, 2015, 01:37:24 pm »
Indeed. It's fantastic content and from a non-partisan perspective, my background is football journalism so I'm always keen to read/listen to compelling sports content. As mentioned before, I also know one of the lads who was involved right from the very beginning so I've always been interested to see its journey and development over the years.

I think the Heysel show was award-winning stuff.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10793 on: June 5, 2015, 01:57:14 pm »
There's this idea that fundamentally there's a perfect storm. :D

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10794 on: June 5, 2015, 02:00:51 pm »
Agree the Heysel show was very well done.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10795 on: June 5, 2015, 02:19:06 pm »
What's the uptake on the subscription been like out of interest?
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10796 on: June 5, 2015, 02:30:51 pm »
If he'd shown a bit of caution against Chelsea, a game we didn't have to win, we'd likely have won the league.  An experienced, top manager would've served up the dullest game imaginable and taken his point.
This line of argument is a convenience dictated by outcome. The manager (who led us to that point where the league was in our clutches) set up a team that was comfortable, gave little away and looked like probably the next team to score throughout the first half. How he can be blamed for an outrageous twist of fate I am not sure.

This is the rub for me; you can be anti-Rodgers while also praise him hugely for 13/14. It's as if once you nail your colours to the last you have to pursue a line of argument that fits neatly into narrow view. So by saying you want Rodgers out now you must also qualify any success he's had by finding something to blame him for in 13/14, like the Chelsea match.

Can people not make a point that harbours shades of grey?

It's just narrative-driven tosh.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10797 on: June 5, 2015, 02:52:45 pm »
If he'd shown a bit of caution against Chelsea, a game we didn't have to win, we'd likely have won the league.  An experienced, top manager would've served up the dullest game imaginable and taken his point.

Nonsense of the highest fucking order. The game was 0-0 and we weren't chasing it in anyway. We were playing normally, as normal as you can be for a team that had won 12 on the bounce.

Gerrard doesn't slip, we see that game out and win the league, nothing to do with Rodgers. It really is that crushingly simple.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10798 on: June 5, 2015, 03:06:11 pm »

Neil now wears a floor length fur coat and is driven around in a gold plated Cadillac, but they have chosen to ignore us well wishers enquiries about if they have surpassed break even point.

I would suggest that if they won't comment on how many paid subscribers they have, it must have gone very well and they are too modest to say ;)

I hope it has exceeded their expectations- they deserve it.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10799 on: June 5, 2015, 03:43:45 pm »
Loved the transfer committee. Ben Jonno is hilarious
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