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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10600 on: May 22, 2015, 02:26:07 pm »
In a group which has as many contributors as we do, there's a fair chance that some of us will have a different opinion.

What we won't do is tell people who are involved what they can and can't think or say, because that would be the death of it.

Agree - you cant tell someone to toe a party line

But you can exercise editorial control. That piece by Jim in TAW a couple of weeks ago was full to the brim with agendas and snipes. If you let him keep making similar points, it compromises your editorial balance and possibly credibility. If he doesn't like it, he moves on and write his own blog. Jim seems to be using TAW as a platform for his misgivings, and I'm not sure that's a good thing

And anyone who tries to moralise about footballers or managers relationships are always on shaky ground - its got nothing to do with their ability to motivate a team full of footballers

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10601 on: May 22, 2015, 02:53:57 pm »
That shite from Boardman is well out of order. OK, I get it, you don't like Rodgers, but his private life is nothing to do with whether he's a good football manager or not. As to the follow up of "some people do feel what he is like as a person, his character, is important in judging him as a manager" - fucking hell. Firstly, it's bollox anyway, and secondly, who thinks that, other than him?

I've muted the tedious bore on the twitter and never read the shite he belches out because I know it's going to be snide shite aimed at Rodgers, over and over again. Thankfully he hasn't cropped up on the podcasts too often lately so we've been spared his monotonous drone.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10602 on: May 22, 2015, 05:19:58 pm »
So in another words TAW is great...as long as anyone doesnt step away from the party line and express their own opinion...and if they do they should be fucked off....yeah, thats a healthy way to proceed
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10603 on: May 22, 2015, 05:24:47 pm »
I haven't noticed anything particularly bad from Jim on TAW but I did agree that "Sometimes I tweet about tech or the weather or music or news." was nonsense.

Bet you wouldn't find many other tweets from him on marital disputes, looking back!
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10604 on: May 22, 2015, 06:19:55 pm »
I rarely agree with many of Jim's tweets but there is no way he should be censored on TAW.  If you have an issue with differing opinions, it might be time for you to find another blog, not the writer.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10605 on: May 22, 2015, 06:25:58 pm »
I rarely agree with many of Jim's tweets but there is no way he should be censored on TAW.  If you have an issue with differing opinions, it might be time for you to find another blog, not the writer.
Differing opinions should never be a problem but then again there should be some standard and level of respect you need to show to institution that is the manager of Liverpool football club.

I don`t see anyone but Jim stooping so low , it`s one thing to criticize the manager but it`s entirely different matter when you`re launching vicious attacks on his integrity and personality. I think the TAW lads are much classier than that and would never resort to such sleaze ball tactics - at least I`d like to think so - so imo Boardman is way out of line by meddling into Rodgers` private affairs. It`s jeopardizing the whole reputation of the group of guys who happen to be proper reds.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10606 on: May 22, 2015, 07:18:30 pm »
Unless I've missed something, Jim didn't meddle into Rodgers' private affairs on TAW - that was on Twitter.

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« Reply #10607 on: May 22, 2015, 07:29:10 pm »
That shite from Boardman is well out of order. OK, I get it, you don't like Rodgers, but his private life is nothing to do with whether he's a good football manager or not. As to the follow up of "some people do feel what he is like as a person, his character, is important in judging him as a manager" - fucking hell. Firstly, it's bollox anyway, and secondly, who thinks that, other than him?

I've muted the tedious bore on the twitter and never read the shite he belches out because I know it's going to be snide shite aimed at Rodgers, over and over again. Thankfully he hasn't cropped up on the podcasts too often lately so we've been spared his monotonous drone.

I agree, it's immature and Boardman needs to learn to grow the fuck up. Bang out of order.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10608 on: May 22, 2015, 08:21:10 pm »
Good, classic panel tonight. Atkinson, Gutmann, Girling.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10609 on: May 23, 2015, 03:33:21 am »
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10610 on: May 23, 2015, 05:34:05 am »
Unfollowed Boardman ages ago, please let's not post his reactionary shite in here, I'd rather not see it.

You'll never walk alone, but you will if he has anything to do with it.

Edit: It actually angers me. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if we lost that we would lose the format that The Anfield Wrap runs on, but I remember a time when users were binned from here for coming out with the sort of stuff he comes out with. Even during a 6 game winning streak he's disrespecting the fucking manager in charge of the club.

I mean, what the fuck Rodgers personal relationship has to do with anything I don't know. They've split up, it's finished, he is moving on and has done, and now they deal with whatever they need to in the courts. Saddening, but a fact of life.

It's ironic we have discussions about people turning up to Anfield with their plastic bags and going the club shop, but they certainly support the club more than this man does. It's one thing not supporting the manager, it's another actively campaigning on social media to make him look like a fool and a dickhead,

But for me it feels like another symptom of what changed since Hodgson came in. New lines were drawn and new attacks were allowed after him. Because for a fucking fact, you wouldn't see him posting personal stuff up about that re: Kenny or Rafa and you might say "well they haven't got into that situation" and you'd be correct, but that's not the point.

It was bad enough dealing with the tabloids having a go at Rafa all the time, but at least Jim gets his board money off the Mirror.

"It's time to talk about Kenny" was at least a respectful discussion, but with Jim it's always "time to slag off our manager". Top red.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10611 on: May 23, 2015, 01:27:55 pm »
So in another words TAW is great...as long as anyone doesnt step away from the party line and express their own opinion...and if they do they should be fucked off....yeah, thats a healthy way to proceed


No. You've got it wrong - if Boardman had a consistency of opinion between the show and his tweets then it'd be fair enough. He's actually mild mannered and thoughtful on the podcast, but doesn't have the courage to splurge his bile out about Rogers because he'd be confronted about it and it wouldn't stand up.

As that famous old saying goes, "Nobody likes a two faced, click bait whore with an axe to grind."




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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10612 on: May 23, 2015, 07:56:36 pm »
This weeks Rewired was the best so far I think, despite the poltergeist that was in the background :)

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10613 on: May 24, 2015, 08:35:38 am »
No. You've got it wrong - if Boardman had a consistency of opinion between the show and his tweets then it'd be fair enough. He's actually mild mannered and thoughtful on the podcast, but doesn't have the courage to splurge his bile out about Rogers because he'd be confronted about it and it wouldn't stand up.

As that famous old saying goes, "Nobody likes a two faced, click bait whore with an axe to grind."


Yep, this is the crux. Hold whatever position you want if you can back it up and keep consistent. But don't hide behind a Twitter handle to peddle an agenda.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10614 on: May 24, 2015, 01:05:50 pm »
Kool Aidy issue had me agreeing with Guttman about our mid table position and finding way too much entitlement in Gerling's argument.

Spurs offer more in creature comfort terms than we can.

We've got a cranky, entitlement-based minority of fans who think that because we won the EC 10 years ago that everyone should want to play for us when brutally, we have become losers.

Accordingly, they see our glass as 60% empty so try to blame it on our owners.

We've finally got owners that know how to run a business (although don't ask me why they got into ours. :duh.)

We complain JH and Werner don't come to the matches.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10616 on: May 24, 2015, 03:54:22 pm »
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10618 on: May 24, 2015, 04:00:39 pm »
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10619 on: May 24, 2015, 04:01:31 pm »
I think some of you owe Boardman an apology...
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10620 on: May 24, 2015, 04:02:52 pm »
I think some of you owe Boardman an apology...

Nope. I wanted Rodgers gone too, but bringing up his divorce and personal life as a way to push an agenda against him is a bad, bad shithouse move
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10622 on: May 24, 2015, 04:12:16 pm »
I think some of you owe Boardman an apology...

Nope. I wanted Rodgers gone too, but bringing up his divorce and personal life as a way to push an agenda against him is a bad, bad shithouse move

This

And the fact that he's so spineless and two faced on twitter and the pod. That's the issue, not an opinion he has.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10623 on: May 24, 2015, 04:14:43 pm »
Mike Nevin's laying his cards on the table on Twitter.  His next contribution on TAW should be interesting.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10624 on: May 24, 2015, 04:18:40 pm »
Mike Nevin's laying his cards on the table on Twitter.  His next contribution on TAW should be interesting.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10625 on: May 24, 2015, 04:23:44 pm »
I think some of you owe Boardman an apology...

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10626 on: May 24, 2015, 04:23:55 pm »


Obviously he's angry but I think he's out of order there...
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10627 on: May 24, 2015, 04:25:23 pm »
It's a bit over the top, but he does have a point.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10628 on: May 24, 2015, 04:26:22 pm »
It's a bit over the top, but he does have a point.

He does.

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10629 on: May 24, 2015, 04:26:37 pm »
People need to take a step back.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10630 on: May 24, 2015, 04:28:16 pm »
It's a bit over the top, but he does have a point.
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10631 on: May 24, 2015, 04:29:06 pm »
Mike Nevin is spot-on. Some farts might not like to hear the truth, specially in such a manner, but pull your head out of the sand.
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« Reply #10632 on: May 24, 2015, 04:30:33 pm »
At worst, FSG have shown a great deal of ignorance. Really don't think they deserve that level of vitriol from Nevin, but things are raw, good to see people caring enough to stick head above the parapet.

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« Reply #10633 on: May 24, 2015, 04:30:33 pm »
People need to take a step back.

We've taken them far too many.
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« Reply #10634 on: May 24, 2015, 04:31:21 pm »
He does have a point..... I have never seen a LFC team where the whole team gives up for 2 f**king months. WTF is happening to MY CLUB ?
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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10635 on: May 24, 2015, 04:32:07 pm »


God, I find it difficult to disagree with that.

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« Reply #10636 on: May 24, 2015, 04:34:10 pm »
Yes they've fucked up and believe me, I'm no FSG apologist but they can't micro-manage every aspect of the club.
Rodgers had no experience and no pedigree so hiring him was always a risk.
The committee isn't working and needs to be disolved so hopefully it will be.

We have a spent a fair amount but as usual we wasted it on shit.

I can't blame FSG for everything and I certainly can't talk about the the way those tweets do... the last one is bang on about players but the first is out of order IMHO.
Maybe I'm just naive or grateful..... meh I dunno.

Get some decent scouts in and get rid of the thoroughly mid-table coaching staff we have and we'll see how we do then.

Grrrrrr

I really do understand his frustration and I fucking hate that there's no transparency so we supporters don't even know if it's Rodgers, The committee, FSG or Ian Ayre who is to blame.

The whole thing is a joke to be fair

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Re: The Anfield Wrap
« Reply #10637 on: May 24, 2015, 04:37:12 pm »
It's quite obvious that Rodgers isn't only to blame, but this just smacks of losing the dressing room. And it's usualy the manager who takes the brunt, that's just how football works. It's hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel really. On and off the field.

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« Reply #10638 on: May 24, 2015, 04:38:43 pm »
It's quite obvious that Rodgers isn't only to blame, but this just smacks of losing the dressing room. And it's usualy the manager who takes the brunt, that's just how football works. It's hard to see any light at the end of the tunnel really.


Indeed.... the last few matches have fuck all to do with FSG... Rodgers sets the team out, picks the players and decides formations and tactics.

All season we've been playing people out of position and today's lineup was ridiculous.

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« Reply #10639 on: May 24, 2015, 04:41:17 pm »
Nevin is right, with the way the club is going i've spoken to people who feel less connected to the club now than they did under Hodgson.

Club refusing to meet fans to discuss prices until boycotts of flags happened, more and more being priced out, stewards fuming on people for standing, people losing their season ticket for giving it to a mate for a match.

Lots feel that bit by bit the club is being taken away from us and turned into a marketing machine for foreign owners who don't even bother showing up. It's not just a knee jerk to the Stoke game, there's a clear disconnect between the club and match going fans in many cases
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