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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2920 on: December 16, 2023, 09:23:33 am »
Was Cissé a Rafa signing or a Houllier one? I'd always assumed Houllier signed him, which I thought was bizarre as Houllier was sacked at the end of the 03-04 season. Rafa had an uncanny ability back then to make do with what he had, but I always felt Cissé was not a player he would have bought if given the choice. Especially as he wasn't cheap.

He was a Houllier signing.

I remember Rafa making some comment about how when he was at Valencia he always rated him though.

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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2921 on: December 16, 2023, 01:35:15 pm »
He was a Houllier signing.

I remember Rafa making some comment about how when he was at Valencia he always rated him though.

Yeah, the way I remember it was that the deal was agreed when Ged was still here and then there were rumours that Rafa was given the choice whether to go through with the signing or not (not sure how true that was as I don't really see how they would have just ripped up an agreed deal just because we got a new manager). My feeling always was that Rafa wouldn't have signed Cissé as he was not really "smart" enough for a Rafa player, but he tried to get the best out of him. It didn't help that he broke his foot only a short time after the season had started.

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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2922 on: December 16, 2023, 02:30:53 pm »
Was Cissé a Rafa signing or a Houllier one? I'd always assumed Houllier signed him, which I thought was bizarre as Houllier was sacked at the end of the 03-04 season. Rafa had an uncanny ability back then to make do with what he had, but I always felt Cissé was not a player he would have bought if given the choice. Especially as he wasn't cheap.

Houllier signing, he was confirmed to be coming to us before Rafa came, and i think he was actually supposed to come the year before but picked up an injury(?).

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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2923 on: December 16, 2023, 05:02:13 pm »
Was Cissé a Rafa signing or a Houllier one? I'd always assumed Houllier signed him, which I thought was bizarre as Houllier was sacked at the end of the 03-04 season. Rafa had an uncanny ability back then to make do with what he had, but I always felt Cissé was not a player he would have bought if given the choice. Especially as he wasn't cheap.

I think the Cisse deal was made months in advance of Houllier leaving. Either the board thought there was a good chance for Houllier to stay on and pursued the Cisse deal, or they just thought they'd swoop in for a player who was a hot talent at the time before the richer clubs came calling.

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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2924 on: December 16, 2023, 08:55:17 pm »
Yeah, the way I remember it was that the deal was agreed when Ged was still here and then there were rumours that Rafa was given the choice whether to go through with the signing or not (not sure how true that was as I don't really see how they would have just ripped up an agreed deal just because we got a new manager). My feeling always was that Rafa wouldn't have signed Cissé as he was not really "smart" enough for a Rafa player, but he tried to get the best out of him. It didn't help that he broke his foot only a short time after the season had started.

Not his foot. Was a double leg break against Blackburn, about half way through the season. Absolutely awful injury - think he caught his studs in the turf as he was running. But he was back in record time for such an injury, and played a key role in the closing games of our CL campaign. Didn't excuse him shoving his wife down the stairs though.

I think the Cisse deal was made months in advance of Houllier leaving. Either the board thought there was a good chance for Houllier to stay on and pursued the Cisse deal, or they just thought they'd swoop in for a player who was a hot talent at the time before the richer clubs came calling.

Well he was asked to resign, so I'm not sure the board wanted Houllier to stick around. Maybe Moores and Parry just felt honour bound to see the deal through after sacking Houllier, but his departure seemed inevitable by the end of the season. He was just out of ideas at that point, sadly.
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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2926 on: January 18, 2024, 05:53:58 pm »
Sad news that for James, but it's good that he has met others with the same condition, I wish him luck in the years ahead. He looks so like his dad.
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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2927 on: January 18, 2024, 08:30:50 pm »
That's awful for him. :(
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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2928 on: January 18, 2024, 08:34:31 pm »
Sad news that for James, but it's good that he has met others with the same condition, I wish him luck in the years ahead. He looks so like his dad.

Right???

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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2929 on: January 18, 2024, 09:01:03 pm »
Good, honest interview with James and Michael that ......very sad for the lad but hopefully he can channel this into something positive ....looking forward to the BT documentary on the 30th....
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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2930 on: January 24, 2024, 02:37:01 pm »
Whatever my views on Michael, he comes across well when talking about his son. Good luck to him for the rest of his life, at least he should not have the same degree of financial worries that others in his position might have and he has his family to help him. He'll need it.
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Re: Michael Owen
« Reply #2931 on: January 24, 2024, 03:07:12 pm »
In the Good Morning Britain interview. His son looks exactly like Michael did around the time he scored the goals vs Argentina. Time sure flies.  :o