Author Topic: Uefa to hold hearing into Mamadou Sakho’s failed drug test for Liverpool  (Read 46493 times)

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So all it takes for UEFA's banned list to review itself is banning a player for 30 days and his lawyers to prove that their list is shite.

Incompetence of the highest order.

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Ok, now it's getting confusing. Is he cleared or not?
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Brilliant news for Sakho and for us !  :scarf

This is either another example of massive incompetence or possibly corruption from UEFA .

Liverpool looking likely to get to a European final after knocking United out and then beating Dortmund ? Let's throw a spanner in the works...

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UEFA statement

'The 30-day provisional suspension ends today. The chairman of the Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body decided not to extend it. The player would thus be free to play as from tomorrow. A decision on the case will be made within the next few days.'

So he's free to play for the next few days until they make a decision?! Odd.
Realistically if they were going to give him a further ban I would imagine they would have extended the 30 day suspension

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I dont think Sakho will be included in French squad if UEFA takes few more days to conclude the case
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Realistically if they were going to give him a further ban I would imagine they would have extended the 30 day suspension

Agree. Not extending the ban has to mean indication what the ruling will be.
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You can use funny pictures all you like. UEFA hate us , always have and always will .
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"Uefa have now opted to initiate a separate investigation to establish if the slimming pills do indeed contain illegal substances."

Seems like we may have jumped the gun a bit here.
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The Europa game is unfortunate. However, we had a 1-0 lead at half time and we squandered it with a terrible performance from the entire team in the second half of the final. It's horrible that we were without him due to this rather massive cock up but I think in the circumstances we should accept that we lost the final with good grace.

Beyond that, I'm absolutely delighted for Sakho and hope he gets the chance to represent his country in international competition within his own country - perhaps a once in a lifetime experience for him and the most important result in my opinion as of right now if no sanctions are forthcoming.

If it wasn't for that referee , it should have been two or three Hij . 2 or 3-0 up at half-time and I doubt we would have lost the game , at least not in normal time anyway.

Joke of a performance and very suspicious in my eyes. A millionaire referee who made his fortune through selling TV rights for World Cup games and internationals - who does he know precisely ?

If this case is looking like it's on decidedly shaky ground too then UEFA have serious questions to answer.
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This is either another example of massive incompetence or possibly corruption from UEFA .

Liverpool looking likely to get to a European final after knocking United out and then beating Dortmund ? Let's throw a spanner in the works...
for fucks sake
I would honestly let Wijnaldum jizz in my face right now

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Maybe let's see what the investigation shows.

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        bolandiol (estr-4-ene-3β,17β-diol)
        bolasterone
        boldenone
        boldione (androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione)
        calusterone
        clostebol
        danazol ([1,2]oxazolo[4',5':2,3]pregna-4-en-20-yn-17α-ol)
        dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (4-chloro-17β-hydroxy-17α-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one)
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        drostanolone
        ethylestrenol (19-norpregna-4-en-17α-ol)
        fluoxymesterone
        formebolone
        furazabol (17α-methyl[1,2,5]oxadiazolo[3',4':2,3]-5α-androstan-17β-ol)
        gestrinone
        mestanolone
        mesterolone
        metandienone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one)
        metenolone
        methandriol
        methasterone (17β-hydroxy-2α,17α-dimethyl-5α-androstan-3-one)
        methyldienolone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestra-4,9-dien-3-one)
        methyl-1-testosterone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methyl-5α-androst-1-en-3-one)
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        nandrolone
        norboletone
        norclostebol
        norethandrolone
        oxabolone
        oxandrolone
        oxymesterone
        oxymetholone
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        stenbolone
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        trenbolone (17β-hydroxyestr-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
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        androstenediol (androst-5-ene-3β,17β-diol)
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        5α-androstane-3β,17α-diol
        5α-androstane-3β,17β-diol
        5β-androstane-3α,17β-diol
        7α-hydroxy-DHEA
        7β-hydroxy-DHEA
        7-keto-DHEA
        19-norandrosterone
        19-noretiocholanolone
        androst-4-ene-3α,17α-diol
        androst-4-ene-3α,17β-diol
        androst-4-ene-3β,17α-diol
        androst-5-ene-3α,17α-diol
        androst-5-ene-3α,17β-diol
        androst-5-ene-3β,17α-diol
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        aminoglutethimide
        anastrozole
        androsta-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione (androstatrienedione)
        exemestane
        formestane
        letrozole
        testolactone.
    2. Selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) including, but not limited to:
        raloxifene
        tamoxifen
        toremifene.
    3. Other anti-estrogenic substances including, but not limited to:
        clomiphene
        cyclofenil
        fulvestrant.
    4. Agents modifying myostatin function(s) including, but not limited, to:
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    5. Metabolic modulators:
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        Insulins and insulin-mimetics
        Meldonium
        Trimetazidine

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        desmopressin
        probenecid
        plasma expanders e.g. glycerol and intravenous administration of albumin, dextran, hydroxyethyl starch and mannitol
        acetazolamide
        amiloride
        bumetanide
        canrenone
        chlortalidone
        etacrynic acid
        furosemide
        indapamide
        metolazone
        spironolactone
        thiazides, e.g. bendroflumethiazide
        chlorothiazide and hydrochlorothiazide
        triamterene
        vaptans, e.g. tolvaptan.
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        drospirenone
        pamabrom
        ophthalmic use of carbonic anhydrase inhibitors, e.g.
            brinzolamide
            dorzolamide
        Local administration of felypressin in dental anaesthesia.
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    S1. Anabolic Agents
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    1. Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS)
    a. Exogenous* AAS, including:
        1-androstenediol (5α-androst-1-ene-3β,17β-diol)
        1-androstenedione (5α-androst-1-ene-3,17-dione)
        1-testosterone (17β-hydroxy-5α-androst-1-en-3-one)
        4-hydroxytestosterone (4,17β-dihydroxyandrost-4-en-3-one)
        19-norandrostenedione (estr-4-ene-3,17-dione)
        bolandiol (estr-4-ene-3β,17β-diol)
        bolasterone
        boldenone
        boldione (androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione)
        calusterone
        clostebol
        danazol ([1,2]oxazolo[4',5':2,3]pregna-4-en-20-yn-17α-ol)
        dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (4-chloro-17β-hydroxy-17α-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one)
        desoxymethyltestosterone (17α-methyl-5α-androst-2-en-17β-ol)
        drostanolone
        ethylestrenol (19-norpregna-4-en-17α-ol)
        fluoxymesterone
        formebolone
        furazabol (17α-methyl[1,2,5]oxadiazolo[3',4':2,3]-5α-androstan-17β-ol)
        gestrinone
        mestanolone
        mesterolone
        metandienone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one)
        metenolone
        methandriol
        methasterone (17β-hydroxy-2α,17α-dimethyl-5α-androstan-3-one)
        methyldienolone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestra-4,9-dien-3-one)
        methyl-1-testosterone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methyl-5α-androst-1-en-3-one)
        methylnortestosterone (17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestr-4-en-3-one)
        methyltestosterone
        metribolone (methyltrienolone, 17β-hydroxy-17α-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
        mibolerone
        nandrolone
        norboletone
        norclostebol
        norethandrolone
        oxabolone
        oxandrolone
        oxymesterone
        oxymetholone
        prostanozol (17β-[(tetrahydropyran-2-yl)oxy]-1'H-pyrazolo[3,4:2,3]-5α-androstane)
        quinbolone
        stanozolol
        stenbolone
        tetrahydrogestrinone (17-hydroxy-18a-homo-19-nor-17α-pregna-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
        trenbolone (17β-hydroxyestr-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
        and other substances with a similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s).
    b. Endogenous** AAS when administered exogenously:
        androstenediol (androst-5-ene-3β,17β-diol)
        androstenedione (androst-4-ene-3,17-dione)
        dihydrotestosterone (17β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-3-one)
        prasterone (dehydroepiandrosterone, DHEA, 3β-hydroxyandrost-5-en-17-one)
        testosterone
    and their metabolites and isomers, including but not limited to:
        3β-hydroxy-5α-androstan-17-one
        4-androstenediol (androst-4-ene-3β,17β-diol)
        5-androstenedione (androst-5-ene-3,17-dione)
        5α-androstane-3α,17α-diol
        5α-androstane-3α,17β-diol
        5α-androstane-3β,17α-diol
        5α-androstane-3β,17β-diol
        5β-androstane-3α,17β-diol
        7α-hydroxy-DHEA
        7β-hydroxy-DHEA
        7-keto-DHEA
        19-norandrosterone
        19-noretiocholanolone
        androst-4-ene-3α,17α-diol
        androst-4-ene-3α,17β-diol
        androst-4-ene-3β,17α-diol
        androst-5-ene-3α,17α-diol
        androst-5-ene-3α,17β-diol
        androst-5-ene-3β,17α-diol
        androsterone
        epi-dihydrotestosterone
        epitestosterone
        etiocholanolone
    2. Other Anabolic Agents, including but not limited to:
        clenbuterol
        selective androgen receptor modulators (SARMs, e.g. andarine and ostarine)
        tibolone
        zeranol
        zilpaterol.
    For purposes of this section: * “exogenous” refers to a substance which is not ordinarily produced by the body naturally. ** “endogenous” refers to a substance which is ordinarily produced by the body naturally.
    Notes

    For purposes of this section:
    * “exogenous” refers to a substance which is not ordinarily produced by the body naturally.

    ** “endogenous” refers to a substance which is ordinarily produced by the body naturally.

    S2. Peptide Hormones, Growth Factors, Related Substances and mimetics
    The following substances, and other substances with similar chemical structure or similar biological effect(s), are prohibited:
    1. Erythropoietin-Receptor agonists:
    1.1 Erythropoiesis-Stimulating Agents (ESAs) including e.g.
        darbepoietin (dEPO)
        erythropoietins (EPO)
        EPO-Fc
        EPO-mimetic peptides (EMP) e.g.
            CNTO 530
            peginesatide
        methoxy polyethylene glycol-epoetin beta (CERA).
    1.2 Non-erythropoietic EPO-Receptor agonists, e.g.
        ARA-290
        asialo EPO
        carbamylated EPO.
    2. Hypoxia-inducible factor (HIF)
        HIF stabilizers e.g.
            cobalt
            FG-4592
        HIF activators e.g.
            argon
            xenon
    3. Chorionic Gonadotrophin (CG) and Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and their releasing factors in males, e.g.
        buserelin
        gonadorelin
        leuprorelin
    4. Corticotrophins and their releasing factors, e.g.
        corticorelin
    5. Growth Hormone (GH) and its releasing factors including:
        Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) and its analogues e.g.
            CJC-1295
            sermorelin
            tesamorelin
        Growth Hormone Secretagogues (GHS) e.g.
            ghrelin
            ghrelin mimetics e.g.
                anamorelin
                ipamorelin
        GH-Releasing Peptides (GHRPs) e.g.
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What on earth have they been doing for the last month if they still don't know whether the slimming pills contain illegal substances??
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is that why they've made sure we're the least successful English club in Europe?...
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Investigations still ongoing then. UEFA aren't going to want to look incompetent or weak - reckon they'll give it a real go to prove Sakho was at fault in some way here, otherwise they open themselves up to too many questions. Don't think they're going to just let it go as easily as some are thinking...

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"Uefa have now opted to initiate a separate investigation to establish if the slimming pills do indeed contain illegal substances."

Seems like we may have jumped the gun a bit here.

That's an extremely odd sentence, isn't it? Wouldn't it mean that he tested positive for the pills, but not necessarily the actual banned substance?

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Investigations still ongoing then. UEFA aren't going to want to look incompetent or weak - reckon they'll give it a real go to prove Sakho was at fault in some way here, otherwise they open themselves up to too many questions. Don't think they're going to just let it go as easily as some are thinking...


Why would they lift the ban for a few days though? Why has it taken over a month and they still haven't established if the substance is banned? Weird.
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is that why they've made sure we're the least successful English club in Europe?...

Ok,I should have said since Heysel and especially when Platini was in power. The comments his sidekick said after Athens about us being "the worst fans in Europe" etc...
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Great news if it turns out he's cleared in a few days.

The wording of the Echo article is concerning though, although I could just be reading it wrong.
Liverpool Echo:

The ECHO understands that Sakho's defence questioned whether the substance he had taken should even be on the prohibited list - leading to UEFA ordering their own disciplinary body to first investigate whether the substance should even be on the WADA list.
So does that mean if UEFA turn round in 3 months and say "Yeah, that substance should be on the list" they can re-open the investigation against him? i.e. this might not be over yet. Hope it's just poorly worded and the decision next week is a definitive one.

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If the French reports are saying he's got off, then its probably more than likely true. They were the first to report him testing positive in the first place too. Great, great news and hopefully Sakho can sue.

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I'm pleased for the lad. It must have been a tough few weeks. Also, some people might wish to reflect on precisely why we consider people innocent until they are proven guilty.

Investigations still ongoing then. UEFA aren't going to want to look incompetent or weak - reckon they'll give it a real go to prove Sakho was at fault in some way here, otherwise they open themselves up to too many questions. Don't think they're going to just let it go as easily as some are thinking...

I'm of the view that body chemistry is exceptionally complex, and the formulations of the millions of substances a person can ingest just as complicated. Drug tests can't possibly cover every eventuality and need to be constantly reviewed. It looks like this has been an anomaly, and they will be reviewing why the positive etc. Nothing sinister, just good practice.
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So does that mean if UEFA turn round in 3 months and say "Yeah, that substance should be on the list" they can re-open the investigation against him? i.e. this might not be over yet. Hope it's just poorly worded and the decision next week is a definitive one.
i highly doubt it as there would be a pretty obvious case of Sakho not being aware that the drug could get him into trouble seeing as, well, it wasn't even on the list of banned substances. Sakho would just plead ignorance.

Ok,I should have said since Heysel and especially when Platini was in power. The comments his sidekick said after Athens about us being "the worst fans in Europe" etc...
I doubt uefa are going out of their way to try and fuck us over in a Europa final
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The British and French media seem to be at odds with each other regarding the current state of affairs. I'm confused.

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Ok,I should have said since Heysel and especially when Platini was in power. The comments his sidekick said after Athens about us being "the worst fans in Europe" etc...

But we've been pretty successful in Europe even post-Heysel, we've also come close quite a few times in recent times -

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Why would they lift the ban for a few days though? Why has it taken over a month and they still haven't established if the substance is banned? Weird.

I'm not sure that they have a fucking clue what's going on themselves to be honest, all that's really happened is his original ban has expired and they haven't extended it (probably thinking that it's unlikely to matter anyway, given the domestic league is finished and he's unlikely to be selected for the Euros) whilst they establish the facts of the case.

Personally don't think arguing whether or not a substance should be banned will affect the outcome particularly one way or the other. Lots of conflicting reports on whether or not he has actually taken the substance on the banned list or not though. Some saying he has but is arguing it shouldn't be illegal, some saying UEFA haven't yet established whether or not he's even taken a banned substance (seems unlikely). Outcome will be very different depending on which of those is correct you would imagine.

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Maybe there are issues with the testing lab.Anyone know where his sample tested actually.Because something similar happened in cricket and a Srilankan player was initially banned and then cleared after reexamining his sample after a Qatar based testing center wrongly tested him positive.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/srilanka/content/story/1012617.html

Wont be surprised if something simlar happened here as with all the UEFA/FIFA links with Qatar as well
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I'm pleased for the lad. It must have been a tough few weeks. Also, some people might wish to reflect on precisely why we consider people innocent until they are proven guilty.

I'm of the view that body chemistry is exceptionally complex, and the formulations of the millions of substances a person can ingest just as complicated. Drug tests can't possibly cover every eventuality and need to be constantly reviewed. It looks like this has been an anomaly, and they will be reviewing why the positive etc. Nothing sinister, just good practice.

That's my take on it. Reality isn't like CSI..
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i highly doubt it as there would be a pretty obvious case of Sakho not being aware that the drug could get him into trouble seeing as, well, it wasn't even on the list of banned substances. Sakho would just plead ignorance.
Yeah if the drug wasn't on the list when he tested "positive" then he definitely should be cleared - but in some articles it's worded as "Sakho's lawyer questioned whether the substance should even be on the list" - so if it was on the list and now they're not sure if it should be, it could drag on if they confirm its place on the list.

Guess we'll find out next week.

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I doubt uefa are going out of their way to try and fuck us over in a Europa final

Really ? I'm not saying that they are for sure but that referee had history with us ...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-manager-rafa-benitez-3424784

He also looked certain to referee tonight's final according to Swedish media before it was given to Clattenburg.

Oh , and while we're talking of Clattenburg - remember last week's FA cup performance and his pre match laughs with Fergie ?
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Ok,I should have said since Heysel and especially when Platini was in power. The comments his sidekick said after Athens about us being "the worst fans in Europe" etc...

They changed the rules after Istanbul if they were so against us if ever there was an opportunity to do something it was then.

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If he didn't take anything banned an explanation of why one of our best players was forced to miss a big European final would be nice ....

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i highly doubt it as there would be a pretty obvious case of Sakho not being aware that the drug could get him into trouble seeing as, well, it wasn't even on the list of banned substances. Sakho would just plead ignorance.
I doubt uefa are going out of their way to try and fuck us over in a Europa final

The guidance given to footballers doesn't allow players to plead ignorance. If a substance isn't on the list you are obliged to check with their team doctor, and every player is given a leaflet that advises them to be careful of supplements like fat burners:

Are supplements safe?

Nutritional supplements are not regulated like medicines are, so you can never
be sure that the label shows the real contents. Studies have shown that around
15% of supplements bought over the internet could be contaminated with
banned substances such as anabolic steroids.
Several players have taken supplements and have then tested positive, even
when they had not meant to take banned substances. This still leads to a long
suspension from football. Substances such as methylhexanamine (which is also
known by other names, including geranamine) are often involved in such cases.
Never trust a supplement that says it is approved by UEFA, FIFA or similar sport
organisations. This will never be the case. Be careful – if the packaging claims it
will enhance your performance, it probably has a banned substance in it!

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Really ? I'm not saying that they are for sure but that referee had history with us ...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-manager-rafa-benitez-3424784

He also looked certain to referee tonight's final according to Swedish media before it was given to Clattenburg.

Oh , and while we're talking of Clattenburg - remember last week's FA cup performance and his pre match laughs with Fergie ?

While the ref was shite and we could have been out of sight in the first half, we conceded three in the second half mate and collapsed.
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If he didn't take anything banned an explanation of why one of our best players was forced to miss a big European final would be nice ....

Because presumably they believed that he had circumvented a rule and took action based upon the tests that indicated he had taken a prohibited substance. I hate UEFA as much as the next person but I don't think they'll have done it intentionally. Answers should come out, and Sakho could quite possibly sue over this, but I think the timing of it was purely coincidental, I don't think that this was engineered in order to make Sakho miss the final as seems to be implied.

We lost the final over 90 minutes with the players we had left, and we had a couple of weeks in which Klopp could train the team for the final and we even rested players in league games to ensure their fitness.

It's annoying for me of course, but the final won't be getting replayed, so it'd be better for everyone if we could get over that facet of this particular case.
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It's a perfectly reasonable statement that UEFA don't like us.  I don't think they're overly fond of most English clubs to be fair.  But it's not like Sakho didn't take the pills, is it?

The fact that we acted so swiftly, and that his absence in the final MAY have played some part in our defeat, may be seen as punishment enough.  The lad will have been scared witless over his career during this, plus he will have been left hurting missing out on the final, knowing he let his team mates and the supporters down.

Perhaps UEFA felt that was sufficient enough of a lesson and this further  "investigation" is just an exercise in semantics to make sure Sakho's head is full of the potential consequences should he transgress again.

Or maybe if we'd won the Europa they would have slapped a 9 month ban on him to spite us.  ;D :lickin
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While the ref was shite and we could have been out of sight in the first half, we conceded three in the second half mate and collapsed.

Exactly, what did UEFA and the ref do to Moreno in the second half?
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The guidance given to footballers doesn't allow players to plead ignorance. If a substance isn't on the list you are obliged to check with their team doctor, and every player is given a leaflet that advises them to be careful of supplements like fat burners:

Are supplements safe?

Nutritional supplements are not regulated like medicines are, so you can never
be sure that the label shows the real contents. Studies have shown that around
15% of supplements bought over the internet could be contaminated with
banned substances such as anabolic steroids.
Several players have taken supplements and have then tested positive, even
when they had not meant to take banned substances. This still leads to a long
suspension from football. Substances such as methylhexanamine (which is also
known by other names, including geranamine) are often involved in such cases.
Never trust a supplement that says it is approved by UEFA, FIFA or similar sport
organisations. This will never be the case. Be careful – if the packaging claims it
will enhance your performance, it probably has a banned substance in it!

http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/Download/EuroExperience/uefaorg/Anti-doping/02/32/57/15/2325715_DOWNLOAD.pdf
hmm cheers. makes this a tad more murky,

still looks like he's going to be fine. I think Uefa will amend their list of banned substances after this though.
I would honestly let Wijnaldum jizz in my face right now

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Really ? I'm not saying that they are for sure but that referee had history with us ...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-manager-rafa-benitez-3424784

He also looked certain to referee tonight's final according to Swedish media before it was given to Clattenburg.

Oh , and while we're talking of Clattenburg - remember last week's FA cup performance and his pre match laughs with Fergie ?

Referee's have poor games and make mistakes. Pretty tenuous link to say there was a hidden campaign to cheat us out of a trophy.

What's Clattenburg got to do with it? He made mistakes and you could see how pissed off with himself he was for not playing the advantages. And it's the same guy who gave us 3 penalties at OT too a few seasons ago, so I don't see what Fergie has to do with anything.

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Apparently UEFA bribed a mod here. My post was deleted. Hmmm. ;)
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If UEFA ban him then does it effect us? We aren't in UEFA competition next season.
Could have done with Grujic and even Chirivella to tide us over this season