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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62240 on: November 24, 2021, 01:46:35 pm »
Nagy supposedly set to be canned after the game vs Lions. He deserves to be let go but Bears have handled this badly.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62241 on: November 24, 2021, 01:49:21 pm »
He's already denied that rumour

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62242 on: November 24, 2021, 02:14:05 pm »
Could be Tim Boyle-Andy Dalton showdown on Thanksgiving.

But, low-key, could be a fun game to watch the running backs.  Montgomery and Swift are the headliners, but the backups are decent too.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62243 on: November 24, 2021, 02:26:16 pm »
Could be Tim Boyle-Andy Dalton showdown on Thanksgiving.

But, low-key, could be a fun game to watch the running backs.  Montgomery and Swift are the headliners, but the backups are decent too.

I'm always impressed with D'Andre Swift when I seem him play. Feels like he's a decent dual threat RB.

Looked at his stats, and whilst decent they aren't as good as I imagined them to be.

Is D'Andre Swift a potential star in the making or am I just over rating him because he stands out in a poor Lions team?
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62244 on: November 24, 2021, 04:39:34 pm »
I'm always impressed with D'Andre Swift when I seem him play. Feels like he's a decent dual threat RB.

Looked at his stats, and whilst decent they aren't as good as I imagined them to be.

Is D'Andre Swift a potential star in the making or am I just over rating him because he stands out in a poor Lions team?

Wanted to look into this a bit and fell down a rabbit hole.  ;D

Swift is really good as a dual-threat and has gamebreaking ability with good vision/cutback moves, so he does seem like a potential star in the making.

It's just the Lions have been weird this season.  Prior to the bye, Anthony Lynn was the play caller.  Looking at the box scores, Swift had more receiving than rushing yards in 7 of the 8 contests.  His longest run was 16 yards.  He had 90 carries for 319 yards (a poor 3.5 average) but totaled 415 receiving yards (he has more targets than any other RB this season).  It made sense since Goff isn't a great QB, made worse by the complete lack of receiving options outside of Hockenson and their Pro Bowl center getting injured.  Swift was doing a lot of work on dump-off passes and such, particularly in second halves with the Lions trailing and abandoning all pretense of running.

Since the bye though, Campbell took over the play calling and now in two games, Swift had 130 against the Steelers and 136 against the Browns on 47 total carries (5.7 average).  Even taking away the 57-yarder against the Browns, it's still really impressive.  Even moreso since Goff threw for only 114 yards against the Steelers and Boyle threw for 77 yards and 2 picks against the Browns.  You'd figure, with that kind of futility, teams would stack the box every play no matter what, and Swift would have even less room, but it hasn't been the case.  The Lions did draft Penei Sewell, and maybe the bye week helped with scheming too to get more running room despite the awful QB play.  Both games were close too, so the Lions never had to abandon the run.  Swift only had 5 receiving yards the last two games, a complete reversal from the first 8 games.

I'll be curious to see how he performs the rest of the way and how the Lions want to use him.  With the Lions talent on the O-Line, he should have a bright future going forward.  Definitely seems like a patient runner willing to look for and cut back for running lanes but also with elite speed and good hands.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62245 on: November 24, 2021, 04:53:31 pm »
You have to love the NFL and the media machine sometimes...

Everson Griffen posts a disturbing video with a gun, and his mental health is in question, bizzies at his place this morning to try and see what's happening, team and everyone is worried about him.

...and yet Zimmer gets asked what's his status for Sunday's game  :butt

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62246 on: November 24, 2021, 05:13:00 pm »
From the LA Times
NFL and Rams agree to $800-million settlement with St. Louis over relocation

The Rams and the NFL have agreed to pay about $800 million to settle a lawsuit over the teamís departure from St. Louis.

...wonder what this means to Arsenal, if anything.

What a bag of snakes the owners are. The moment there was a challenge, Kroenke threatened to turn on the NFL and sue them.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62247 on: November 24, 2021, 06:10:36 pm »
From the LA Times
NFL and Rams agree to $800-million settlement with St. Louis over relocation

The Rams and the NFL have agreed to pay about $800 million to settle a lawsuit over the teamís departure from St. Louis.

...wonder what this means to Arsenal, if anything.

What a bag of snakes the owners are. The moment there was a challenge, Kroenke threatened to turn on the NFL and sue them.

it'll mean nothing to them.

I have one of those silly irrational things where I want D'Andre Swift to do well, so was obviously disappointed for him to get drafted by the lions

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62248 on: November 24, 2021, 06:34:49 pm »
From the LA Times
NFL and Rams agree to $800-million settlement with St. Louis over relocation

The Rams and the NFL have agreed to pay about $800 million to settle a lawsuit over the teamís departure from St. Louis.

...wonder what this means to Arsenal, if anything.

What a bag of snakes the owners are. The moment there was a challenge, Kroenke threatened to turn on the NFL and sue them.

Nooooooo...  I was hoping it would go to trial and move documents/emails will come out as part of it.  But now this is settled.  And the NFL will do their best to not release anything about WFT.

Business as usual.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62249 on: November 24, 2021, 10:13:14 pm »
Nooooooo...  I was hoping it would go to trial and move documents/emails will come out as part of it.  But now this is settled.  And the NFL will do their best to not release anything about WFT.

Business as usual.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62250 on: November 24, 2021, 10:16:20 pm »
Thanksgiving in the States tomorrow which means extra Thursday games.

Bears @ Lions
Raiders @ Cowboys
Bills @ Saints

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62251 on: November 24, 2021, 11:33:17 pm »
With the Lions and Raiders playing, every household in the US is guaranteed to see a turkey this Thanksgiving   :thumbup :hally

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62252 on: November 25, 2021, 09:27:29 am »
Wanted to look into this a bit and fell down a rabbit hole.  ;D


Thanks for the insight Skipper.

Sounds like Swift could do more in the right offensive system and/or with better players surrounding him.

As a 49ers fan, I think I notice Swift since I think heíd be perfect in Shanahanís offence as a dual threat RB. To be fair to 49ers, Elijah Mitchell has done a great job this year as a 6th round pick.

Looking forward to seeing if Swift can continue his +100yd rushing streak today
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62253 on: November 25, 2021, 09:38:44 am »
I guess only Saints taking on the Bills looks interesting enough out of those. I really didn't see the falling off the cliff for the team that looked like proper Superbowl contenders in September coming. At least they'll be playing a backup QB this time so might have something positive to come out of it but it's going to be a tall order for them to unseat the Patriots now, as pedestrian as their offense really is.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62254 on: November 25, 2021, 02:20:03 pm »
Forgot about the Thanksgiving games. What a pleasant surprise!

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62255 on: November 25, 2021, 02:26:00 pm »
With the Lions and Raiders playing, every household in the US is guaranteed to see a turkey this Thanksgiving   :thumbup :hally

The Bears could be the bigger turkey from the Lions game, it'd be fun if that ended up in a tie ;D

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62256 on: November 25, 2021, 02:33:34 pm »
The Bears could be the bigger turkey from the Lions game, it'd be fun if that ended up in a tie ;D

Bears fans won't even have the pleasure of Nagy getting binned with a loss to look forward to either, but I guess it is getting into the time of year where they win a few games to ruin their draft position in any case.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62257 on: November 25, 2021, 02:39:25 pm »
a few do seem to be going for a lions win today. having said that a few also went for a lions win a couple of weeks ago when they got absolutely blown out.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62258 on: November 25, 2021, 02:52:21 pm »
a few do seem to be going for a lions win today. having said that a few also went for a lions win a couple of weeks ago when they got absolutely blown out.

Most likely as the Bears are a dysfunctional from top to bottom right now, Nagy is incompetent HC who needs to be fired, but the Bears have never fired anyone in season, wouldn't surprise me if either the Bears or Lions come away with a win, could end in a tie too.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62259 on: November 25, 2021, 02:55:48 pm »
Forgot about the Thanksgiving games. What a pleasant surprise!

Until you remember that it's frigging Detroit and they're playing a 3-7 team :D

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62260 on: November 25, 2021, 05:27:33 pm »
Got Matt Breida 2+ touchdowns at 60-1 on bet365 yesterday. Think theyíve realized their mistake as heís down to 30-1 now

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62261 on: November 25, 2021, 06:13:21 pm »
Haha Lions trying the same thing three times from the own endzone and expecting different results that's going to be one long game... I'm out ;D

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62262 on: November 25, 2021, 06:19:56 pm »
"you like jimmy graham down here and..........they've taken him off the field"

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62263 on: November 25, 2021, 07:42:57 pm »
Feel like I jinxed DíAndre Swift with my praise earlier in the week!
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62264 on: November 25, 2021, 08:57:35 pm »
Dear God that was hard to watch. If a win can cement a firing, Matt Nagyís just done it.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62265 on: November 25, 2021, 09:02:26 pm »
it was about as bad as advertised. the most notable thing was probably the 3 yard t-shirt stretch/rip

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62266 on: November 25, 2021, 09:08:20 pm »
I often wonder why the NFL keep giving the Lions the Thanksgiving home game on the Thursday, when they stink the place out.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62267 on: November 26, 2021, 12:37:54 am »
I often wonder why the NFL keep giving the Lions the Thanksgiving home game on the Thursday, when they stink the place out.

Makes sense really, all the other teams are thankful not to be the Lions.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62268 on: November 26, 2021, 12:40:15 am »
Makes sense really, all the other teams are thankful not to be the Lions.

 ;D

Good game in Dallas though, aided by some dodgy penalty calls.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62269 on: November 26, 2021, 12:41:14 am »
It's been a much better game then the first one, though that's not a high bar to clear.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62270 on: November 26, 2021, 12:53:15 am »
Turned into a cracker, despite the referees best efforts to completely ruin it. Great throws by Prescott that drive.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62271 on: November 26, 2021, 12:58:14 am »
That false start call seemed completely ridiculous.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62272 on: November 26, 2021, 12:59:55 am »
That false start call seemed completely ridiculous.

Agree, should have been a penalty on the Cowboys defence for neutral zone infraction.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62273 on: November 26, 2021, 01:10:25 am »
well I'm not staying up for OT as good as the game has been.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62274 on: November 26, 2021, 01:15:45 am »
Surprised the Raiders didn't try a couple of plays to try & get to the FG range, wiht 19 seconds left with 1 timeout remaining

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62275 on: November 26, 2021, 01:31:01 am »
What a crazy ending to the Cowboys game. :lmao

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62276 on: November 26, 2021, 01:31:56 am »
Madness  ;D
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62277 on: November 26, 2021, 07:06:31 am »
;D

Good game in Dallas though, aided by some dodgy penalty calls.
When it ends up going to OT some of those calls turned out to have mattered.

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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62278 on: November 26, 2021, 09:55:17 am »
With the Saints losing, 49ers currently sit as 7th seed in NFC.

I suspect itíll be short lived since Iím not sure the defence will be able to regularly stop the Vikings offence on Sunday. But Iíll enjoy being a potential play-off team for a few days.
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Re: The NFL Thread
« Reply #62279 on: November 26, 2021, 09:58:32 am »
When it ends up going to OT some of those calls turned out to have mattered.

Typical Cowboys

Plus that the Cowboys missed a PAT & an FG in regulation, although some of those penalties were questionable but those penalty calls were the same for both teams, Raiders had a bullshit false start call on the snapper for instance.