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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58800 on: November 17, 2018, 11:13:47 PM »
Gerrin, Gavin stopped with a brutal body shot, even the extra flab couldn't protect him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58801 on: November 22, 2018, 08:53:29 AM »
Vladimir wants WBA to run Olympic boxing. I think AJ hit him harder then I thought.

The WBA would have 3 gold medalists at every weight. Useless organisation.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58802 on: November 22, 2018, 08:55:52 AM »
Vladimir wants WBA to run Olympic boxing. I think AJ hit him harder then I thought.

The WBA would have 3 gold medalists at every weight. Useless organisation.
;D

There would be Super, Diamond, and probably Silver Gold Medalists  :lmao

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58803 on: November 22, 2018, 08:57:22 AM »
;D

There would be Super, Diamond, and probably Silver Gold Medalists  :lmao

Silver gold medalists haha

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58804 on: November 22, 2018, 08:59:58 AM »
Silver gold medalists haha
With the WBA, EVERYONE is a winner. (Once you pay them their fees.) How do you think Samie became the Maltese Heavyweight Champion?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58805 on: November 22, 2018, 09:27:21 AM »
WBA are currently recognising no less than FOUR world champions at cruiserweight FFS, probably the least controversial division out there  :lmao

Mind you, WBC run them close with world champions, silver champions, champions emeritus, diamond champions, and those daft one off belts they keep making.  Pretty soon random people are going to start getting WBC belts in the post like with jury service.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58806 on: November 22, 2018, 04:54:46 PM »
WBA are currently recognising no less than FOUR world champions at cruiserweight FFS, probably the least controversial division out there  :lmao

Mind you, WBC run them close with world champions, silver champions, champions emeritus, diamond champions, and those daft one off belts they keep making.  Pretty soon random people are going to start getting WBC belts in the post like with jury service.
It's five now mate. The WBA just read what you said about the WBC and they sent me a Cruiserweight title in the mail. Now I just need to feign injuries for two and a half years and  can remain a world champion; damn those sanctioning fees  :(

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58807 on: November 23, 2018, 10:12:41 AM »
It's five now mate. The WBA just read what you said about the WBC and they sent me a Cruiserweight title in the mail. Now I just need to feign injuries for two and a half years and  can remain a world champion; damn those sanctioning fees  :(

Just fail a drugs test mate, that's what I did and now I'm champion in recess for the next 3 years ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58808 on: November 23, 2018, 10:17:32 AM »
So with just 8 days to go. How are you guys seeing the Wilder v Fury fight?

I still think brutal and early for Wilder

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58809 on: November 23, 2018, 10:19:52 AM »
Cancelled at the last minute

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58810 on: November 23, 2018, 10:56:49 AM »
So with just 8 days to go. How are you guys seeing the Wilder v Fury fight?

I still think brutal and early for Wilder

If it was the Fury of 3 years ago who fought Klitschko I think he'd win. It isn't though unfortunately and he's not had enough preparation or proper fights leading into this one. I actually think he may be in the lead in the middle of the fight but will then get stopped or knocked out late on.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58811 on: November 23, 2018, 11:01:30 AM »
So with just 8 days to go. How are you guys seeing the Wilder v Fury fight?

I still think brutal and early for Wilder

I'll have to tell you after the weigh in.  If Fury is in any kind of shape then I think Wilder is in for a shock, if not then it's a cash out and I'm with you, except I think Fury can stink the place out until the second half of the fight at least.

But also probably this:

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58812 on: November 23, 2018, 10:45:53 PM »
I'll have to tell you after the weigh in.  If Fury is in any kind of shape then I think Wilder is in for a shock, if not then it's a cash out and I'm with you, except I think Fury can stink the place out until the second half of the fight at least.

But also probably this:
I saw pictures of Fury a week ago, he is in by far and away in the best shape of his career. There is even a hint of a 6-pack  :o

He is definitely taking this seriously and I think he believes he will win. The trouble is, Wilder is a puzzle. He is about as unorthodox as you can get; I doubt he even knows what he is doing half the time! For however long the fight lasts, I think Fury will outbox and generally flummox and frustrate him. However, I can't see Wilder not landing one of his bombs during a 12 round fight. Wlad was bizarrely gunshy, Wilder doesnt have that problem. He will throw with bad intentions all night and one expects him to find the big shot so Wilder KO is by far the most likely outcome.

The only outcomes that would shock me is a Fury early KO or Wilder on points. Option A is possible if Fury times one right and catches Wilder with one he doesnt see.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58813 on: November 23, 2018, 10:51:09 PM »
Fury on points for me. Wilder will look for that big right hand all night but won't find it. He's never faced anyone with Fury's size and awkward style.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58814 on: November 23, 2018, 10:58:14 PM »
So with just 8 days to go. How are you guys seeing the Wilder v Fury fight?

I still think brutal and early for Wilder

Fury will make it an horrendous fight, will win on the scorecards in most peoples eyes but will get ''robbed'' by the judges.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58815 on: November 24, 2018, 07:58:56 AM »
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I know John Fury isn't everyone's cup of a tea but I actually like listening to his interviews. He's a straight talking guy. This is a really good honest interview imo.

I can't wait until next weekend. I just hope Fury will upset the odds again and pull it off.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58816 on: November 24, 2018, 08:34:58 AM »
The guy is a criminal lowlife tbf, probably why he isn't everyone's cup of tea. He gauged out a man's eye.

It's funny that he has gone from wilder not being able to beat him to getting the excuses in early.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58817 on: November 24, 2018, 08:45:58 AM »
I saw pictures of Fury a week ago, he is in by far and away in the best shape of his career. There is even a hint of a 6-pack  :o

He is definitely taking this seriously and I think he believes he will win. The trouble is, Wilder is a puzzle. He is about as unorthodox as you can get; I doubt he even knows what he is doing half the time! For however long the fight lasts, I think Fury will outbox and generally flummox and frustrate him. However, I can't see Wilder not landing one of his bombs during a 12 round fight. Wlad was bizarrely gunshy, Wilder doesnt have that problem. He will throw with bad intentions all night and one expects him to find the big shot so Wilder KO is by far the most likely outcome.

The only outcomes that would shock me is a Fury early KO or Wilder on points. Option A is possible if Fury times one right and catches Wilder with one he doesnt see.

If you're right about Fury's condition, then you've basically laid out my prediction, if not I'm with Clayton.

There's a few wildcards in this though, like I'm not sure about the new trainer or having 3 voices in his corner on the night. I thought Peter Fury was a big part of that Dusseldorf win.

The biggest wildcard though is Wilder himself, because we still don't know if he's any good. 40 odd fights and he's pretty much had his own way in all of them because they're all against Latvians. There's no benchmark to compare Fury against.

Plus, whenever an untested fighter is described as 'unorthodox' I get a feeling that's code for 'can't box'.  There's still every chance Wilder is a massive hype job.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58818 on: November 24, 2018, 08:56:35 AM »
The guy is a criminal lowlife tbf, probably why he isn't everyone's cup of tea. He gauged out a man's eye.

It's funny that he has gone from wilder not being able to beat him to getting the excuses in early.

I don't think he's getting his excuses in early. He came across as being very honest in his assessment imo. He still thinks Fury will win but would have preferred him to have had a few more fights before taking this one, which is completely reasonable.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58819 on: November 24, 2018, 09:11:55 AM »
This is a cashout from Fury clearly. He could have fought a much better style of opponent in August if he truly believed he could win this but he just played it safe.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58820 on: November 24, 2018, 09:41:57 AM »
If you're right about Fury's condition, then you've basically laid out my prediction, if not I'm with Clayton.

There's a few wildcards in this though, like I'm not sure about the new trainer or having 3 voices in his corner on the night. I thought Peter Fury was a big part of that Dusseldorf win.

The biggest wildcard though is Wilder himself, because we still don't know if he's any good. 40 odd fights and he's pretty much had his own way in all of them because they're all against Latvians. There's no benchmark to compare Fury against.

Plus, whenever an untested fighter is described as 'unorthodox' I get a feeling that's code for 'can't box'.  There's still every chance Wilder is a massive hype job.
Even though Ortiz is 74 years old, it was a good win by Wilder. He was in dire straits in that fight, and I think a real hype job like Michael Grant would have fallen apart. Ortiz is the only real 'name' on his record though.

I think Fury is also a wildcard! Aside from Wlad, which was a great win, his record is pretty sparse. His next best wins are against Chisora and Del Boy wasnt arsed in their second fight.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58821 on: November 27, 2018, 11:28:40 AM »
I think Wilder stops him late. Can see Fury boxing really well and possibly getting his nose ahead on points.. but that tank will run empty in the mid to late rounds and thatís when I can see Wilder stopping him.

Any real reason as to why Tyson split from Peter? I like Peter Fury and enjoy listening to him speak but itís odd that heís never now questioned about Tyson and doesnít mention him himself anymore.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58822 on: November 27, 2018, 05:38:10 PM »
I think Wilder stops him late. Can see Fury boxing really well and possibly getting his nose ahead on points.. but that tank will run empty in the mid to late rounds and thatís when I can see Wilder stopping him.

Any real reason as to why Tyson split from Peter? I like Peter Fury and enjoy listening to him speak but itís odd that heís never now questioned about Tyson and doesnít mention him himself anymore.

I think if it goes late it's going to be Wilder that will be gassed. It's a 2 stone minimum weight difference and Fury won't be afraid to use it. Trying to push that around the ring for 12 rounds will take it's toll.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58823 on: November 27, 2018, 06:27:51 PM »
Wilder within 4

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58824 on: November 27, 2018, 06:41:34 PM »
Wilder within 4
That's a bold prediction mate since the only opponent Wilder has KO'd within that timeframe since 2014 was Stiverne who looked as if he had waddled into the ring straight from a buffet which also involved drinking a pint of rum.

Wilder has power but dismal accuracy. It took him 9 rounds to dispose of Molina who hurt him badly in the fight. It took him 8 rounds to stop Chris Areola who defends with his face, 9 rounds to KO Szpilka, and 11 rounds to KO Duhaupas. He had power but I can see him missing pretty horribly with some shots in the fight. If he gets a stoppage it will likely be in the second half of the fight.

I suspect Wilder will catch Fury at some point and get a stoppage but remember, Wilder is rather light for his height and Fury will be leaning in on him and hugging him. Wilder doesnt have much of an inside game from what I can see and Fury could have some joy at close quarters.

I actually said in the group with the lads that Fury could be the one to get a KO. It is not outrageous to suggest that Wilder misses a punch by miles and is met with a perfect counter punch. Fury isnt a big hitter but a clean shot on the chin from a man his size will hurt Wilder who is far from being bulletproof.

So yeah, probably Wilder via late stoppage but I'm really not sure. Will Fury be able to bamboozle Wilder for long enough to make the champion get frustrated? Or is everything a mirage? Are you right Clayton, is it a cashout? We'll see soon enough!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58825 on: November 27, 2018, 07:07:06 PM »
If this fight was 3 years ago it wouldn't even be a discussion. I guess we'll know more after a round or 2 but I'm going for Fury on points. Wouldn't bet on it though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58826 on: November 27, 2018, 07:18:17 PM »
Fury on points.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58827 on: November 28, 2018, 11:06:19 AM »
Days away and it still looks like they're struggling to sell tickets.

They are having to give what looks like 100's to Los Angeles Firefighters.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58828 on: November 28, 2018, 11:15:56 AM »
It's not great but as long as fight happens that is all that matters to me

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58829 on: November 28, 2018, 11:56:55 AM »
Should be interesting, but I'd honestly love Fury to get floored in about 3
Trent is pretty poor at free kicks. Said it for a long time. One decent free kick a few years ago and the commentators think he's Beckham

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58830 on: November 28, 2018, 01:10:48 PM »
Don't know why they didn't do it in Vegas or NY where they actually have boxing fans. When's the last time LA had a boxing event, Mosley v Margarito?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58831 on: November 28, 2018, 05:31:01 PM »
Don't know why they didn't do it in Vegas or NY where they actually have boxing fans. When's the last time LA had a boxing event, Mosley v Margarito?
Wilder could have bit the bullet and had it in the UK. Loads of suitable venues and tickets would sell very quickly.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58832 on: November 30, 2018, 12:44:44 PM »
Looks like the entire top tier of the arena will be tarped off and hidden from the cameras.

Fair play to both of them trying to hype up this piece of shit fight. £19.95? fuck off.

Talking about scrapping the weigh in face-off as it 'kicked off' yesterday at the pre-pre fight press conference.

Really hope that Wilder wins because I dont want to see the rematch if Fury manages to win. Lets get Wilder vs AJ for all the apples. Then let Whyte, Chisora, Wilder and Fury spend 2019 deciding who gets next go.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58833 on: November 30, 2018, 12:45:51 PM »
The only winner from all this is AJ and Eddie Hearn.

Willing to bet good money of Hearn being the guy leaking the Klitschko rumours.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58834 on: November 30, 2018, 12:47:45 PM »
So this is gonna be roughly what, 5am UK time?
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« Reply #58835 on: November 30, 2018, 12:49:49 PM »
So this is gonna be roughly what, 5am UK time?

Yeah :D

Thought it was like 11PM/midnight sort of time, fuck staying up or getting up then to watch that.
Trent is pretty poor at free kicks. Said it for a long time. One decent free kick a few years ago and the commentators think he's Beckham

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58836 on: November 30, 2018, 12:52:21 PM »
Looks like the entire top tier of the arena will be tarped off and hidden from the cameras.

Fair play to both of them trying to hype up this piece of shit fight. £19.95? fuck off.

Talking about scrapping the weigh in face-off as it 'kicked off' yesterday at the pre-pre fight press conference.

Really hope that Wilder wins because I dont want to see the rematch if Fury manages to win. Lets get Wilder vs AJ for all the apples. Then let Whyte, Chisora, Wilder and Fury spend 2019 deciding who gets next go.

Not sure how it's a piece of shit fight, though yes PPV here at 4am - 5am time is a fucking disgrace unless the circumstances are exceptional.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58837 on: November 30, 2018, 12:53:33 PM »
Fucking timezones. Cannot be arsed with that. A top event UFC event or the F1 maybe gets me up at that time but not a chance I watch this

I dont even know what the undercard to this even is. Anything worth staying up for?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58838 on: November 30, 2018, 01:05:02 PM »
Not sure how it's a piece of shit fight

A guy who no one outside of boxing knows who has managed to luck into a world championship who has never really been tested at the highest level and has been ducking AJ for years so he can hold onto his belt. Promoted by idiots that have no idea how to do deals.

vs a guy that has had 3 years out following a drugs ban and has only fought 2 bums in his comeback and is represented by Frank Warren

All on PPV at 5am at a non-sold out arena

It's a piece of shit fight where there are no winners (except Eddie Hearn and AJ who can enjoy Christmas and wait on the outcome of this and the Chisora/Whyte fight). From a boxing purist perspective there is nothing to this and to a boxing fair weather fan there is nothing.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #58839 on: November 30, 2018, 01:09:39 PM »
Nah, that's a load of drivel, sorry. I'm not high on Wilder and of course we don't do the damage Fury has done to his body after all the abuse but a piece of shit fight it certainly isn't.

The no winners line is even stranger, bizarre comment.