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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61960 on: January 7, 2020, 04:28:43 PM »
 
It should have been Andre Ward.  Hit his prime at just the right time for this decade, could have built an all time great CV.  But then he spent most of it in the courtroom instead of the ring.

Gets bonus points for punching Kovalev in the bollocks until he cried though.


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And another bonus is he wasn't a c*nt outside of the ring, he didn't need a persona inside of the ring. He was just Andre Ward...and he was in Creed.  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61961 on: January 7, 2020, 11:48:48 PM »
I see Fury going around today calling Usyk a bum because he was today officially recognised as the WBO #1 contender saying it should be him as #1 for all the titles. I get calling the rest bums but Usyk? The fucker is getting boring now.  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61962 on: January 8, 2020, 12:18:16 AM »
I'd give it to Ward for humbling Froch, Froch wanted no part of that rematch, Ward took his soul in that fight

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61963 on: January 8, 2020, 12:22:37 AM »
At least Froch fought  on front of 80k at Wembley.  Wad fought in front of 2 men and their dog in Oakland or wherever he came from. ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61964 on: January 8, 2020, 08:57:26 AM »
I'd give it to Ward for humbling Froch, Froch wanted no part of that rematch, Ward took his soul in that fight

And still has it in his hands.

To be fair Groves has it also and Froch beat him at Wembley stadium in front of 80k people did you know?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61965 on: January 8, 2020, 09:08:01 AM »
And still has it in his hands.

To be fair Groves has it also and Froch beat him at Wembley stadium in front of 80k people did you know?

How can Grives have his soul when he lost twice? First one was a British stoppage but 2nd one was very conclusive

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61966 on: January 8, 2020, 10:56:39 AM »
How can Grives have his soul when he lost twice? First one was a British stoppage but 2nd one was very conclusive

Because Froch still get rattled by him even though he won twice.

Froch is a transparent man. If he is rattled then you've got to him in one way or another. He can't move on.

Maybe, he thought it was going to be an easy fight.. I don't know.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61967 on: January 8, 2020, 11:10:08 AM »
Froch/Groves is second only to Khan/Brook in getting the Boxing thread going ;D

Froch did act like he had lost those two fights for a while, Groves was in his head a bit.  But they seem to be buddies these days.  Groves is busy winding up Carl Frampton now for some reason.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61968 on: January 8, 2020, 11:26:18 AM »
Because Froch still get rattled by him even though he won twice.

Froch is a transparent man. If he is rattled then you've got to him in one way or another. He can't move on.

Maybe, he thought it was going to be an easy fight.. I don't know.
I think he's just a c*nt.

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Re: Boxing thread
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61970 on: January 8, 2020, 06:01:49 PM »
I think he's just a c*nt.

Froch is one if those people that anything anyone ever says, he's always done it better.

Always looking to one up people and be the big man.

He's a tool.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61971 on: January 8, 2020, 06:05:37 PM »
Spence v Crawford would be very interesting.

Spence is a really big welter, would love to see how Crawford coped with the size difference.

Doubt it will ever happen though.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61972 on: January 9, 2020, 04:09:32 PM »
Just seen that Josh Taylor has signed for Bob Arum (Top Rank) & MTK. Also means no more Shane McGuigan as his trainer.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61973 on: January 9, 2020, 04:43:06 PM »
I'm starting to hate these clauses now. It's up to the boxer who he trains with, shouldn't be a fuckin' promoter.  :wanker

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61974 on: January 9, 2020, 08:51:34 PM »
Just seen that Josh Taylor has signed for Bob Arum (Top Rank) & MTK. Also means no more Shane McGuigan as his trainer.

Nice court battle there then?

Shocked Taylor moved considering where his ex management team had got him too and he's off straight away.

Shame!


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61975 on: January 9, 2020, 08:52:23 PM »
Froch/Groves is second only to Khan/Brook in getting the Boxing thread going ;D

Froch did act like he had lost those two fights for a while, Groves was in his head a bit.  But they seem to be buddies these days.  Groves is busy winding up Carl Frampton now for some reason.

Think we found out today way Groves was winding up Frampton.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61976 on: January 9, 2020, 11:03:07 PM »
Spence v Crawford would be very interesting.

Spence is a really big welter, would love to see how Crawford coped with the size difference.

Doubt it will ever happen though.
I'd back Bud to win via comfortable UD to be honest. Porter gave Spence as much as he can handle. Porter is a very good fighter but levels below Crawford. Spence is excellent but not as good as advertised IMO.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61977 on: January 9, 2020, 11:19:45 PM »
Was Taylor under contract ?
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61978 on: January 9, 2020, 11:45:43 PM »
I'd back Bud to win via comfortable UD to be honest. Porter gave Spence as much as he can handle. Porter is a very good fighter but levels below Crawford. Spence is excellent but not as good as advertised IMO.

Spence is the bigger man mate. A more natural Welter, Crawford is coming up through the weight's and eventually it catches everyone up.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61979 on: January 9, 2020, 11:46:41 PM »
Was Taylor under contract ?

Probably was mate but it's not like a footie contract you sign, for like 4 years or something and then you renegotiate.  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61980 on: January 10, 2020, 11:30:37 AM »
Spence is the bigger man mate. A more natural Welter, Crawford is coming up through the weight's and eventually it catches everyone up.
Crawford is a far better boxer and there isn't the same size disparity as there was with Mikey Garcia. If that fight happens, I think a lot of people will be shocked by how comfortably Bud deals with him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61981 on: January 10, 2020, 11:56:23 AM »
Crawford is a far better boxer and there isn't the same size disparity as there was with Mikey Garcia. If that fight happens, I think a lot of people will be shocked by how comfortably Bud deals with him.
I don't think he's far better than Spence but I agree that he is better and wins on points all day. Both are elite though, and need to get it on asap.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61982 on: January 10, 2020, 01:14:15 PM »
Crawford is a far better boxer and there isn't the same size disparity as there was with Mikey Garcia. If that fight happens, I think a lot of people will be shocked by how comfortably Bud deals with him.

Agree with this, think it will be very similar to Mayweather vs Canelo. Canelo is a highly skilled boxer and was the much bigger fighter but the more skillful fighter took it with ease.

I can't see anything other than Crawford making Spence look average. Not that Spence is, far from it, neither was Canelo, but highly elite fighters have a way of making other elite fighters look average.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61983 on: January 10, 2020, 03:29:09 PM »
It's all moot anyway. Crawford v Spence is unlikely, certainly not happening until Spence is up and running again properly after his car crash.  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61984 on: January 12, 2020, 11:56:46 AM »
Just seen the highlights of Mungia & Spike O’Sullivan from last night. Looked brutal.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61985 on: January 14, 2020, 03:29:56 PM »
I see Wilder and Fury have started the hype with their press conference. Wilder saying " I'm gonna knock you out of the ring and then you really will have a WWE experience but in real life".  ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61986 on: January 14, 2020, 05:13:53 PM »
I see Wilder and Fury have started the hype with their press conference. Wilder saying " I'm gonna knock you out of the ring and then you really will have a WWE experience but in real life".  ;D

The more a boxer goes on about looking for a KO and going to war, the more likely they are to spend 12 rounds on the back foot come fight night ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61987 on: January 16, 2020, 10:17:16 PM »
 AJ's and Usyk's reps have held discussions today. I would rather see this than Aj vs Pulev to be honest. But either way he's facing a mandatory defense next. 


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61988 on: January 17, 2020, 09:19:29 AM »
Not sure that makes sense for AJ now.  Partly because there's a good chance he'll lose, but also because there's not much to win.  If I were him I'd want Usyk to beat a couple more heavyweights and pick up that WBO belt so that the win looks more legit.

Agree that I'd rather watch it than AJ v Pulev though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61989 on: January 17, 2020, 09:53:23 AM »
The more a boxer goes on about looking for a KO and going to war, the more likely they are to spend 12 rounds on the back foot come fight night ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61990 on: January 17, 2020, 01:09:20 PM »
Funny to hear pillow-fisted Fury talking about knocking out Wilder. More chance of Mayweather fighting in UFC.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61991 on: January 17, 2020, 01:59:43 PM »
Not sure that makes sense for AJ now.  Partly because there's a good chance he'll lose, but also because there's not much to win.  If I were him I'd want Usyk to beat a couple more heavyweights and pick up that WBO belt so that the win looks more legit.

Agree that I'd rather watch it than AJ v Pulev though.

Opposite of you mate better to beat a novice Heavyweight version of Usyk than one that's fully in tune with the Heavies.  Beat Usyk now then you don't have to face him anymore unless Usyk really cleans up the division i.e he goes on to beat Wilder, Fury etc. :D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61992 on: January 17, 2020, 03:33:59 PM »
Opposite of you mate better to beat a novice Heavyweight version of Usyk than one that's fully in tune with the Heavies.  Beat Usyk now then you don't have to face him anymore unless Usyk really cleans up the division i.e he goes on to beat Wilder, Fury etc. :D

Easier to beat him now, yeah.  But he won't get any credit for beating him until he's done something in the division.

Not that we should be bothered by that kind of thing as boxing fans.  I definitely want to see the fight!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61993 on: January 17, 2020, 04:50:37 PM »
He doesn't get credit as it is.  ;D Take the W wit this lesser Usyk version and move on. At this point on Wilder and Fury give AJ the credit from boxing fans and pundits.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61994 on: January 17, 2020, 05:55:53 PM »
The more a boxer goes on about looking for a KO and going to war, the more likely they are to spend 12 rounds on the back foot come fight night ;D
To be fair, I don't think Captain Windmill knows how to do anything else except throw punches, miss wildly, and land a big one!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61995 on: January 18, 2020, 03:57:56 PM »
New rumour today lads:

AJ fights Pulev (IBF mandatory) next and Usyk in October (WBO mandatory).


I can see that happening and that meeting was basically to thrash out this compromise.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61996 on: January 18, 2020, 06:00:45 PM »
New rumour today lads:

AJ fights Pulev (IBF mandatory) next and Usyk in October (WBO mandatory).


I can see that happening and that meeting was basically to thrash out this compromise.

Fine with me, assuming Fury and Wilder keep each other busy this year. I thought he'd have to drop one belt though and win it back off Usyk?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61997 on: January 18, 2020, 06:06:04 PM »
Perhaps Eddie came to some compromise with the WBO like guaranteeing the Usyk fight will be next.  Or like you said AJ drops WBO and Usyk fights Chisora on the undercard and then AJ v Usyk in October.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61998 on: January 18, 2020, 06:10:20 PM »
Perhaps Eddie came to some compromise with the WBO like guaranteeing the Usyk fight will be next.  Or like you said AJ drops WBO and Usyk fights Chisora on the undercard and then AJ v Usyk in October.

Yeah I wouldn't mind that. Whatever happens Usyk is not going to sit on his hands till October. Think Parker was being talked about before, would be good to see Usyk against someone that size.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61999 on: January 20, 2020, 09:40:21 PM »
I see we've got dickhead Fury back.

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“Usyk isn’t on the list. He’s a no name. No one is interested. He doesn’t make any money,” said Fury to IFL TV when asked if he’d like to fight him. “Why would I want to fight him for? He’s a small cruiserweight, a foreigner who doesn’t speak good English, and no one is really interested anyway. I want the big fights that people are interested in, and that ain’t one of them,” said Fury.