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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61720 on: December 7, 2019, 10:16:31 PM »
German dazn commentators probably shouldn't go to Saudi Arabia or wherever this was. Very critical of the choice of venue. As a casual I can say it wasn't exciting. but I can see what Joshua did there. I'm wondering more how he could lose against that fat guy in the first place... ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61721 on: December 7, 2019, 10:16:35 PM »
That was Shiite from Joshua, I expected more.

It wasn’t shite.
He comprehensively out boxed Ruiz, rocked him a few times too.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61722 on: December 7, 2019, 10:16:51 PM »
Probably a tactical masterclass, but, as i'm not a boxing expert, it just looked like Joshua is a massive shithouse who would be destroyed by Wilder or Fury.

No he fought a fight to get a job done. Different s tactics for what’s in front of you. Do the tricky reds play the same against Bournemouth as they do against city or united for that matter? Why would they. Joshua knee he could get caught on the inside going toe to toe. Madness to start a ruck. He boxed clever. Excellent display. Not every fight has fireworks.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61723 on: December 7, 2019, 10:19:41 PM »
Ruiz just said that he wasn't best prepared and not in the best shape.........that's his fault and if there's a third fight then he needs to be much fitter and lighter.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61724 on: December 7, 2019, 10:19:43 PM »
Really hope they dont do a third fight unless its after Wilder and/or Fury

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61725 on: December 7, 2019, 10:19:44 PM »
Never been so sure that Wilder KOs Joshua after that, he was rightly scared or Ruiz' power and he used jab and movement to avoid it, I'm not sure with Wilder's physical attributes that game plan works for too long.
Wilder is VERY inaccurate. WHEN he lands it is lights out but it takes a few rounds more often than not. His chin isn't great. If Ortiz was in better shape, he would have stopped Wilder in the first fight, and Ortiz is 67 years old.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61726 on: December 7, 2019, 10:20:28 PM »
No he fought a fight to get a job done. Different s tactics for what’s in front of you. Do the tricky reds play the same against Bournemouth as they do against city or united for that matter? Why would they. Joshua knee he could get caught on the inside going toe to toe. Madness to start a ruck. He boxed clever. Excellent display. Not every fight has fireworks.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61727 on: December 7, 2019, 10:20:42 PM »
It wasn’t shite.
He comprehensively out boxed Ruiz, rocked him a few times too.
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61728 on: December 7, 2019, 10:21:18 PM »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61729 on: December 7, 2019, 10:21:46 PM »
Probably a tactical masterclass, but, as i'm not a boxing expert, it just looked like Joshua is a massive shithouse who would be destroyed by Wilder or Fury.



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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61730 on: December 7, 2019, 10:22:08 PM »
'Who wants to see a third fight?' says the loser.

'NO FUCKER!' says the rest of the world bar Mexico.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61731 on: December 7, 2019, 10:22:45 PM »
Professional job.  Exactly what I expected.

AJ needs another fight quick. Usyk??????

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61732 on: December 7, 2019, 10:22:51 PM »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61733 on: December 7, 2019, 10:23:13 PM »
'Who wants to see a third fight?' says the loser.

'NO FUCKER!' says the rest of the world bar Mexico.

AJ said it first
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61734 on: December 7, 2019, 10:23:53 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?

Joshua did put in a performance against Ruiz tonight. If he fights like that he beats Wilder, not sure about Fury.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61735 on: December 7, 2019, 10:24:00 PM »
Ruiz just said that he wasn't best prepared and not in the best shape.........that's his fault and if there's a third fight then he needs to be much fitter and lighter.
What absolute bollocks from him. Had months to prepare and he came in fat as fuck and threw hardly anything of note tonight. No interest in seeing the trilogy, will just be AJ running rings round him again.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61736 on: December 7, 2019, 10:24:09 PM »
Wilder is VERY inaccurate. WHEN he lands it is lights out but it takes a few rounds more often than not. His chin isn't great. If Ortiz was in better shape, he would have stopped Wilder in the first fight, and Ortiz is 67 years old.

Oh no doubt, but i don't see that game plan getting him the win, his jab looked great against the smaller Ruiz but the way to trouble Wilder has been dynamic inside fighting from what I've seen. I would back Ruiz to KO wilder for instance, just not Joshua if he fought like that.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61737 on: December 7, 2019, 10:24:29 PM »
AJ said it first

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61738 on: December 7, 2019, 10:24:29 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61739 on: December 7, 2019, 10:25:37 PM »
Joshua did put in a performance against Ruiz tonight. If he fights like that he beats Wilder, not sure about Fury.
That performance doesn’t beat Wilder.

His confidence looked shot tonight
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61740 on: December 7, 2019, 10:25:39 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?

Yes. They’ll be wary of him and so they should be. His a champion, a two times one for a reason. Fury and Wilder have their own flaws. They aren’t perfect.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61741 on: December 7, 2019, 10:26:24 PM »
Worked for Wlad for a decade.

True. He sucked all the joy out of boxing though, to the point that people weren't even interested in boxing anymore. Yeah, it's great for your record, but that's not something that i would watch.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61742 on: December 7, 2019, 10:27:27 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?

Wilder, yes. Fury, not so much.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61743 on: December 7, 2019, 10:27:33 PM »
What exactly were people expecting AJ to do  ???

He had to win by any means simple

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61744 on: December 7, 2019, 10:28:11 PM »
What exactly were people expecting AJ to do  ???

He had to win by any means simple

He did a good job but fuck me the lad doesn't half talk some bollocks  ;D
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61745 on: December 7, 2019, 10:28:18 PM »
That performance doesn’t beat Wilder.

His confidence looked shot tonight

I disagree. He kept his distance, used his reach, fought behind his jab and out boxed Ruiz. He will out box Wilder like that as well.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61746 on: December 7, 2019, 10:28:32 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?

AJ takes Wilder but not Fury

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61747 on: December 7, 2019, 10:29:05 PM »
Wilder, yes. Fury, not so much.

Agreed, I think Ruiz gives Wilder all sorts of trouble and that's the route i'd be going down if they don't do the trilogy for some reason.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61748 on: December 7, 2019, 10:29:11 PM »
Yes. They’ll be wary of him and so they should be. His a champion, a two times one for a reason. Fury and Wilder have their own flaws. They aren’t perfect.
He’s a two time champion because he lost to a bum and then beat the same bum with a negative performance.

His natural game is to be aggressive and after one setback he’s turned really negative. 
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61749 on: December 7, 2019, 10:30:11 PM »
He did a good job but fuck me the lad doesn't half talk some bollocks  ;D

Fair game though after the caining he got from most after losing he’ll give it the big talk back.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61750 on: December 7, 2019, 10:31:04 PM »
He’s a two time champion because he lost to a bum and then beat the same bum with a negative performance.

His natural game is to be aggressive and after one setback he’s turned really negative. 

It's heavyweight boxing. The only way to retire undefeated is not to fight anyone.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61751 on: December 7, 2019, 10:31:07 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?
Fury would win a wide UD. Wilder would have a very hard night. Wilder is a terrible boxer and if Ruiz could take his power (and he might be able to), then tubs wins a decision.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61752 on: December 7, 2019, 10:33:46 PM »
He’s a two time champion because he lost to a bum and then beat the same bum with a negative performance.

His natural game is to be aggressive and after one setback he’s turned really negative.
Better fighters than AJ have lost to inferior opponents. They adjust and find a different way.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61753 on: December 7, 2019, 10:34:30 PM »
It's heavyweight boxing. The only way to retire undefeated is not to fight anyone.
I’m not expecting him to go unbeaten, but how many fights has he had compared to Fury and Wilder who are unbeaten? And they’ve fought each other. 
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61754 on: December 7, 2019, 10:35:24 PM »
Ruiz is a bum, Joshua should be putting in a performance against this kind of opponent.

Do you think the likes of Fury or Wilder would struggle against him?

You mean like Fury struggled in his last fight?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61755 on: December 7, 2019, 10:35:25 PM »
I’m not expecting him to go unbeaten, but how many fights has he had compared to Fury and Wilder who are unbeaten? And they’ve fought each other.
Take a look at Wilder's record. His best win in his first 35 fights or so was against Stiverne. He drew with Fury, beat Ortiz twice (who is good but very old) and no one else even worth noting.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61756 on: December 7, 2019, 10:39:09 PM »
He’s a two time champion because he lost to a bum and then beat the same bum with a negative performance.

His natural game is to be aggressive and after one setback he’s turned really negative.

Bums have won fights since fights began. You don’t have to knock someone the fuck out every fight. Some fighters prove harder obstacle than the same one does for another. I didn’t think he was negative. He just outboxed Ruiz.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61757 on: December 7, 2019, 10:40:03 PM »
You mean like Fury struggled in his last fight?
I’m a big AJ fan but tonight seemed really negative. Fury has beaten better boxers than AJ has, he may have struggled in his last fight but Joshua has in his last two against a worse opponent.

I was expecting better from AJ tonight. 
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61758 on: December 7, 2019, 10:40:38 PM »
I’m not expecting him to go unbeaten, but how many fights has he had compared to Fury and Wilder who are unbeaten? And they’ve fought each other. 

Joshua's had 25 fights and been in with the likes of Wlad, Parker, Whyte, Povetkin.

Go and tell me the best names on Fury and Wilder's cv after 25 fights.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61759 on: December 7, 2019, 10:41:31 PM »
I’m a big AJ fan but tonight seemed really negative. Fury has beaten better boxers than AJ has, he may have struggled in his last fight but Joshua has in his last two against a worse opponent.

I was expecting better from AJ tonight.
He didn’t struggle tonight, won pretty much every round bar 2.
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