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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61320 on: November 23, 2019, 11:02:19 PM »
I think Ryder's won that. Don't think Callum took him seriously at all. Don't know what his gameplan was.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61321 on: November 23, 2019, 11:02:56 PM »
ryder for me

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61322 on: November 23, 2019, 11:03:27 PM »
It's hard to score. Nearly every round was 50 50.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61323 on: November 23, 2019, 11:04:35 PM »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61324 on: November 23, 2019, 11:04:48 PM »
Absolutely despicable cards.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61325 on: November 23, 2019, 11:04:56 PM »
Soon as you heard the first scorecard knew he was safe

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61326 on: November 23, 2019, 11:05:03 PM »
Hahahaha state of those cards

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61327 on: November 23, 2019, 11:05:24 PM »
You could make a case for Callum winning but those cards, fucking hell.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61328 on: November 23, 2019, 11:05:26 PM »
fuck me that's poor

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61329 on: November 23, 2019, 11:05:34 PM »
As much as I wanted Smith to win thatís an absolute joke of a decision
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61330 on: November 23, 2019, 11:05:51 PM »
What the fuck were Smith's camp up to? Didnt seem to know what to do with the shorter man, odd!
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61331 on: November 23, 2019, 11:06:38 PM »
What the fuck were Smith's camp up to? Didnt seem to know what to do with the shorter man, odd!

He just seemed to think he could fight his natural fight and that would be enough. No gameplan at all.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61332 on: November 23, 2019, 11:06:56 PM »
I think Callum won and card was a bit wide but it's hard when there are no clear winners of any rounds.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61333 on: November 23, 2019, 11:07:14 PM »
An utter disgrace. Boxing does this shit too often.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61334 on: November 23, 2019, 11:08:16 PM »
Those cards were fucking pre-filled. :wanker

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61335 on: November 23, 2019, 11:09:04 PM »
Boxing can make VAR look reasonable. Thought the short lad won convincingly.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61336 on: November 23, 2019, 11:18:55 PM »
Wanted smith to win and thought he would comfortably. Those cards though :butt :butt
Ryder won easily.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61337 on: November 23, 2019, 11:43:04 PM »
Seeing on the boxing forums that this decision wasn't very good. Shocked that he went life and death with John Ryder. Might just be an off night but that's not the form you take into a potential canelo fight.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61338 on: November 24, 2019, 12:36:03 AM »
I think it is one of those fights that you need to watch back. Smith was poor and his strategy was off but he landed all the shots. Ryder was game and was good on the inside but was caught time and time again coming forward. For me it was Callum by two or three rounds.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61339 on: November 24, 2019, 05:30:08 AM »
Ortiz will win this. One of the dumbest rematches I can think of

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61340 on: November 24, 2019, 05:38:44 AM »
Wilder fcking hell!!!

One shot is all he needs.

Lost every round but it don't matter

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61341 on: November 24, 2019, 05:44:18 AM »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61342 on: November 24, 2019, 05:54:45 AM »
Looking back was Bayless too quick to wave that off?


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61343 on: November 24, 2019, 05:56:50 AM »
Looking back was Bayless too quick to wave that off?

I thought it was a very quick count and he waved it off at 9.5. Haven't seen it back though.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61344 on: November 24, 2019, 05:56:57 AM »
Looking back was Bayless too quick to wave that off?



I thought this too but after landing that shot, it would have been over soon after.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61345 on: November 24, 2019, 06:17:09 AM »
I thought this too but after landing that shot, it would have been over soon after.
aye, doubt it would've made a difference.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61346 on: November 24, 2019, 06:31:32 AM »
I wonder what's next for Wilder? Rematch with Fury, or A.J/Ruiz?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61347 on: November 24, 2019, 08:16:48 AM »
I wonder what's next for Wilder? Rematch with Fury, or A.J/Ruiz?

He said after the fight Fury in February then a unification fight

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61348 on: November 24, 2019, 08:26:27 AM »
Fucking hell. Was just thinking to myself that Ortiz was putting on a clinic.

Wilder's power is something else. He landed one shot all night.

One for the purists maybe, but I'd love to see Ortiz v Usyk.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61349 on: November 24, 2019, 09:09:05 AM »
Wilder has such freakish KO power. Didn't even look like a KO punch, just a straight right that Klitschko dropped AJ with. Wouldn't fancy Joshua's chances against him, he'd definitely get dropped.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61350 on: November 24, 2019, 09:24:08 AM »
Wilder has such freakish KO power. Didn't even look like a KO punch, just a straight right that Klitschko dropped AJ with. Wouldn't fancy Joshua's chances against him, he'd definitely get dropped.

I'm afraid Joshua is 4th best boxer currently, behind Ortiz, Wilder and Fury.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61351 on: November 24, 2019, 10:14:10 AM »
I'm afraid Joshua is 4th best boxer currently, behind Ortiz, Wilder and Fury.

Haven't seen anything to suggest Ortiz beats Joshua.

You could make a case for Ruiz (obviously) and Usyk.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61352 on: November 24, 2019, 10:31:01 AM »
Had it on record and just watched it back. Gutted for Ruiz, thought he put on a great show. Wilder has that great power to bail him out, not a bad quality to have but he looked so limited last night. Over to you, AJ.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61353 on: November 24, 2019, 12:06:12 PM »
Thatís the beauty with Wilder though, heís such a technically limited boxer, but if he wins his next 2/3 fights heíll go down as an all time great, up there with Lennox, Tyson etc. I think a fight with AJ would be very similar; AJ boxing his head off for 6/7 rounds and then Wilder catching him with that straight right and ending the fight.

Canít really be arsed watching a Callum Smith fight again until he finds a proper opponent. If he really wants to propel himself to the elite level he should take note of Wilders approach and fight the best fighters in the division. I understand itís boxing and organisations often do all they can to ensure fights donít happen, but he needs to be pushing on now. Obviously last night was a poor performance, but heís got the size advantage and more than adequate technical ability to trouble the juice head if they can make the fight happen.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61354 on: November 24, 2019, 12:26:00 PM »
Haven't seen anything to suggest Ortiz beats Joshua.

You could make a case for Ruiz (obviously) and Usyk.

Oh sorry, i wanted to say Ruiz not Ortiz.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61355 on: November 24, 2019, 03:22:05 PM »
I'd like to see Usyk against Wilder down the line, hopefully in 2020 or 2021.

Usyk's footwork and boxing IQ would be fascinating against Wilder, just the hard task of avoiding the big right from Wilder for Usyk.

That fight would just be as exciting a prospect of the Fury rematch.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61356 on: November 24, 2019, 03:47:46 PM »
Wilder is a one trick pony, that said it's a hell of a trick. Nowhere near greatness yet though.

I thought Callum Smith was poor last night, no doubt the cut affected him and in truth I don't think he wanted the Ryder fight.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61357 on: November 24, 2019, 08:25:01 PM »
Wilder is a one trick pony, that said it's a hell of a trick. Nowhere near greatness yet though.

He's absolutely mental. I honestly can't remember anyone like him. There's plenty of big punchers throughout history but they can all box even if it's a little bit. Can't think of anyone who is so devoid of boxing ability but only needs one punch to land all night.

He lost every round against Ortiz, barely landed anything at all but the one punch that did land was all he needed. Very nearly did the same to Fury. He could be 11 rounds down and you'd still be on the edge of your seat in the 12th.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61358 on: November 24, 2019, 08:34:08 PM »
He's absolutely mental. I honestly can't remember anyone like him. There's plenty of big punchers throughout history but they can all box even if it's a little bit. Can't think of anyone who is so devoid of boxing ability but only needs one punch to land all night.

He lost every round against Ortiz, barely landed anything at all but the one punch that did land was all he needed. Very nearly did the same to Fury. He could be 11 rounds down and you'd still be on the edge of your seat in the 12th.

And that is why  I enjoy watching him so much. Nuclear power in that right hand.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #61359 on: November 24, 2019, 09:54:19 PM »
Thatís the beauty with Wilder though, heís such a technically limited boxer, but if he wins his next 2/3 fights heíll go down as an all time great, up there with Lennox, Tyson etc.

Fucking hell!!!!!!!!!! Wilder an all time great up there with Lennox, Tyson. Wilder couldnt lay a glove on a 56 year old fighter until the superb right hand. Wilder is 6 foot 7 with very long arms and he has no jab or any boxing skills whatsoever. He wouldnt be in the top 25 heavyweights of the last 30 years never mind an all time great.

Wilder has a powerful right hand but its telegraphed to fuck because he has no fucking jab to set it up with. He just uses a jab as a range finder for the right hand and shitty other fighters with limited skills and slow reactions end up getting caught. He might be an all time great in terms of punching power but doesnt have the skills in the toolbox to be considered one of the best heavy's of all time no matter what happens in the next 2 or 3 fights.