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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59160 on: December 2, 2018, 09:42:43 AM »
Fury won the 3 of 4 of the first 4 rounds, arguably won all 4.

Had Fury winning 115 to 111 at the end of it. He clearly clearly won the fight and being the champion doesn't give you a head start. The fight should be judged round by round not in the wider context.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59161 on: December 2, 2018, 09:48:32 AM »
I think Wilder might be more interested in AJ now. He took a gamble that he could catch Fury while he was still washed up, and nearly lost his golden ticket. If I was him I would cash in now instead of the rematch.

It seems like Fury is back in top shape now, after looking awful in his previous fight.  Wilder probably banked on him not being quite as good last night, but even so, he still could've knocked him out in the 12th.

They are clearly the top three heavyweights in the division.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59162 on: December 2, 2018, 10:03:48 AM »
Not enough credit goes to Fury by the haters for his ability to nullify his opponents best asset and shut down their punch output. People expected Wilder to constantly throw punches but as he found out tonight it's not easy to land on Tyson and he'll make you miss. He completely out boxed Wilder even at 70% and if it weren't for him becoming complacent this would have been a shut out.

I hope the rematch is in England but somehow I don't see it happening. Having said that an English ref would have waived the fight off after seeing Fury stationary for a few seconds.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59163 on: December 2, 2018, 10:59:49 AM »
No doubt about that Hardwork. No doubt at all.

Fury must be a real puzzle to solve inside the ring but Wilder did drop him twice. If this guy could just be hypnotised into throwing straight shots he would be so much more dangerous. Also can't come in that light again.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59164 on: December 2, 2018, 11:02:06 AM »
Sounds like it was a good fight.  Thought it would be.

Fury is one tough fighter, getting up from the deck in the 12th.  I'd like to see them both fight AJ.

Fury's much fitter than he looks, dont remember a recovery like that since Larry Holmes got up from an Ernie Shavers bomb.

I think a rematch over here would do well then I'd love to see Fury v AJ although I'd expect Eddie Hearn's got other ideas (Whyte then Usyk) Real shame about the judges earlier, a Fury win would have put a lot of public pressure on Joshua to make the fight.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59165 on: December 2, 2018, 11:05:03 AM »
Just watched

Boxing is completely fucked. 115-111 ?

What I dont get is how nothing is said just everyone moans and gets on with it. Itís the clearest case of corruption youíll see and itís just accepted ?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59166 on: December 2, 2018, 11:16:41 AM »
Gobby Manc gets robbed of a title win  :thumbup

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59167 on: December 2, 2018, 11:24:04 AM »
Just watched

Boxing is completely fucked. 115-111 ?

What I dont get is how nothing is said just everyone moans and gets on with it. Itís the clearest case of corruption youíll see and itís just accepted ?

Link ?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59168 on: December 2, 2018, 11:32:33 AM »
Just watched

Boxing is completely fucked. 115-111 ?

What I dont get is how nothing is said just everyone moans and gets on with it. Itís the clearest case of corruption youíll see and itís just accepted ?
It's so common that everyone just complains for a bit then moves on to the next fight. Corruption runs rife in boxing, it's a dirty sport.

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Re: Boxing thread
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59170 on: December 2, 2018, 11:40:52 AM »
Fury's much fitter than he looks

And he still has some way to go, he can still loose one stone to be at his best weight. Yet, it was Wilder who gassed out in the end, and increased stamina from Fury might have sent Wilder to the ground.

Regarding the outcome, I had two or three rounds on my card that could have gone either way. Assuming they would have gone to Wilder, I have 114-112 Wilder as a final score. Anything between this score and 115-111 Fury is believable, so a draw is fine with me. I donít know what fight that Mexican fella has been watching.

Iíd watch a rematch. Wilder was more at ease in the end of the fight, and now that he knows what Fury is like, he can work on it.

But man, Tyson Fury knows boxing.

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Re: Boxing thread
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59172 on: December 2, 2018, 12:46:25 PM »
Sounds like Stevenson is in a bad way in hospital.
Just seen that.

Critical condition, The knockout was brutal how his head snapped back.

Hope he pulls through.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59173 on: December 2, 2018, 12:48:11 PM »
Anybody know of a link to just the fight even download .?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59174 on: December 2, 2018, 01:02:52 PM »
Anybody know of a link to just the fight even download .?
Just search Wilder vs Fury full fight, that's how I found it (my link is down now).

I've long posted about how much I love Fury in this thread and I'm so pleased for the guy. Outboxed Wilder. Think the first knock-down was a bit unlucky, more a loss of balance than Wilder's punch. But my God Fury is a 6' 9" ballerina.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59175 on: December 2, 2018, 01:06:21 PM »
Basically the fight was determined in a boardroom sometime in the previous 3 months. When a massive fight in the US goes to the judges you might aswell be watching WWE
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59176 on: December 2, 2018, 01:07:05 PM »
If I was Eddie Hearn I would make it a condition that the Joshua v Wilder fight takes place in this country. He'll have massive doubts like us all that if the fight was to happen in the US and goes to the scorecards, Wilder will get it irrespective of how Joshua performs on the night. I still cannot get over the Mexicans scorecard.  ::)

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59177 on: December 2, 2018, 01:08:09 PM »
Basically the fight was determined in a boardroom sometime in the previous 3 months. When a massive fight in the US goes to the judges you might aswell be watching WWE

UK is no better. It's not called 'British stoppage' for nothing

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59178 on: December 2, 2018, 01:33:15 PM »
UK is no better. It's not called 'British stoppage' for nothing

Yeah if it was in the UK then Fury would have been stopped.

Moaning about corruption in here but a draw is not a terrible result. I had Fury by one round but that's with one even. Give that to Wilder and it's a draw. Give one other to Wilder and he won.

The Mexican scorecard was terrible but I'm fine with the result.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59179 on: December 2, 2018, 01:34:09 PM »
If I was Eddie Hearn I would make it a condition that the Joshua v Wilder fight takes place in this country. He'll have massive doubts like us all that if the fight was to happen in the US and goes to the scorecards, Wilder will get it irrespective of how Joshua performs on the night. I still cannot get over the Mexicans scorecard.  ::)
No way that fight would go the distance surely

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59180 on: December 2, 2018, 01:47:31 PM »
Made up for Fury and look forward to the rematch.

Wilder does have a dig on him though!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59181 on: December 2, 2018, 01:54:38 PM »
It's so common that everyone just complains for a bit then moves on to the next fight. Corruption runs rife in boxing, it's a dirty sport.

Has to be dealt with now

Was ok when it was just on sky. But these are huge months long production pay per view events now. Youíre cheating people

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59182 on: December 2, 2018, 01:54:58 PM »
Itís politics-esque how everyone is outraged for a bit, collective attention span moves on and then is shocked at the next shambolic scorecard.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59183 on: December 2, 2018, 01:55:15 PM »
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59184 on: December 2, 2018, 02:00:28 PM »
Fury robbed  , some comeback from the knock down in the 12th .

2 huge punches to put Fury down but to get up from that and nearby take wilder out 30 secs later

Had fury winning all but 4 rounds
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59185 on: December 2, 2018, 02:03:18 PM »
Sounds like Stevenson is in a bad way in hospital.

Looks like Karma caught up with Stevenson don't often wish hurt on other people but if anyone deserves to be in that position it is him.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59186 on: December 2, 2018, 02:03:32 PM »
Itís politics-esque how everyone is outraged for a bit, collective attention span moves on and then is shocked at the next shambolic scorecard.

Much like politics the people who should be investigating it stand to gain a lot from what happened

So it falls to the great unwashed to bitch about it
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59187 on: December 2, 2018, 02:12:00 PM »
Is there a reason why boxers are treated so much better in the public eye than athletes when it comes to failing drug tests. Canelo, Fury, Whyte, Ortiz and probably countless others. You'd almost forget they failed tests. It is quite a curious phenomenon for me

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59188 on: December 2, 2018, 02:26:54 PM »
Think the last few round ring rust kicked him. Don't forget he been out for 3 years and then the massive weight drop. Tyson should be a lot better in rematch

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59189 on: December 2, 2018, 03:04:12 PM »
He (Fury) seems a bit different to how he was before his comeback.  Liked his words at the end of this piece to BT Sport.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59190 on: December 2, 2018, 03:18:25 PM »
Is there a reason why boxers are treated so much better in the public eye than athletes when it comes to failing drug tests. Canelo, Fury, Whyte, Ortiz and probably countless others. You'd almost forget they failed tests. It is quite a curious phenomenon for me

I agree.

It's just brushed off in boxing, compare that to athletics.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59191 on: December 2, 2018, 03:21:21 PM »
What a fix that was. How the f*** could you have Wilder by 4 on your scorecard??? Insane.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59192 on: December 2, 2018, 03:58:04 PM »
Looks like Karma caught up with Stevenson don't often wish hurt on other people but if anyone deserves to be in that position it is him.
Seen a bit on this on Twitter, what's he done? I know he did time for being a pimp but what else?

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59193 on: December 2, 2018, 04:45:45 PM »
Seen a bit on this on Twitter, what's he done? I know he did time for being a pimp but what else?


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59194 on: December 2, 2018, 06:08:51 PM »
Seen a bit on this on Twitter, what's he done? I know he did time for being a pimp but what else?

A difficult read below details some of his actions

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59195 on: December 2, 2018, 07:17:07 PM »
AJ defence isn't half as good as Fury's so wilder is a legit threat on this fight

Very true. Also goes the other way, Fury doesn't punch as hard as AJ does. But you can't use this fight as proof that AJ beats either.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59196 on: December 2, 2018, 07:31:18 PM »
Very true. Also goes the other way, Fury doesn't punch as hard as AJ does. But you can't use this fight as proof that AJ beats either.

Exactly. And whilst they are still around lets just fight and find out

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59197 on: December 2, 2018, 09:00:09 PM »
Exactly. And whilst they are still around lets just fight and find out

Is right! come on AJ and lets see

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #59198 on: December 2, 2018, 09:23:51 PM »
No robbery imo

It could ave gone either way, I personally had it as a draw too. Them two 10-8 rounds were big for Wilder.

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