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« Reply #51400 on: February 23, 2021, 08:27:57 pm »
I always had you down as having a full head of hair, mas how you can have misconceptions of people based on their avatar!

You do realise that’s a picture of Blackadder and not Tepid?!?!

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« Reply #51401 on: February 23, 2021, 08:29:40 pm »
You do realise that’s a picture of Blackadder and not Tepid?!?!

Next you'll be telling me you aren't Angela Lansbury!

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« Reply #51402 on: February 23, 2021, 08:36:30 pm »
You do realise that’s a picture of Blackadder and not Tepid?!?!
really, now you have shocked me!
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« Reply #51403 on: February 23, 2021, 08:37:16 pm »
Next you'll be telling me you aren't Angela Lansbury!
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« Reply #51404 on: February 23, 2021, 08:49:18 pm »
Next you'll be telling me you aren't Angela Lansbury!

Sorry to disappoint but I must confess that I am not Angela Lansbury!

I can’t remember why I changed my picture to her, I think it was someone mentioning George Lansbury in one of the politics threads, he being her grandfather and leader of the Labour Party.

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« Reply #51405 on: February 23, 2021, 08:55:26 pm »
I must confess I’m actually a terrible putter.

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« Reply #51406 on: February 23, 2021, 08:56:17 pm »
I must confess I’m actually a terrible puttnner.

FTFY


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« Reply #51407 on: February 23, 2021, 08:57:58 pm »
Sorry to disappoint but I must confess that I am not Angela Lansbury!

I can’t remember why I changed my picture to her, I think it was someone mentioning George Lansbury in one of the politics threads, he being her grandfather and leader of the Labour Party.
I’ve just read her profile on Wikipedia ...my word...

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On September 27, 1945, Lansbury married Richard Cromwell, an artist and decorator whose acting career had come to a standstill. Their marriage was troubled; Cromwell was gay, and had married Lansbury in the unsuccessful hope that it would turn him heterosexual.

No shit!!
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« Reply #51408 on: February 23, 2021, 09:12:12 pm »
They have all been tested for safety across multiple countries and health authorities, the Moderna one specifically has been widely rolled out as part of the US vaccine program.
Oh FFS yeah. Mind was blurred. Due here from April onwards?

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« Reply #51409 on: February 23, 2021, 09:17:50 pm »
Had the vaccine back in Jan. No side effects experienced except....when I wake up in the morning, the Windows 95 welcome tune now plays in my head!!
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« Reply #51410 on: February 23, 2021, 09:23:21 pm »
Had the vaccine back in Jan. No side effects experienced except....when I wake up in the morning, the Windows 95 welcome tune now plays in my head!!
:lmao

I'm keeping that one for the conspiracy nut jobs.

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« Reply #51411 on: February 23, 2021, 09:29:23 pm »
I’ve just read her profile on Wikipedia ...my word...

No shit!!

It’s not something I know a lot about or have read into, it’s just one of those random things a teacher tells you at school and just sticks in your head for forever.

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« Reply #51412 on: February 23, 2021, 09:35:05 pm »
Oh dear....

I’ve got  an anti Vaxxer on my ass.

Did an assembly about vaccines and how they worked.  Myth busted some issues about coronavirus and showed the BAME vaccine video at the end.


A very very long complaint form one parent... yikes,..!
I know how you feel, and I'm not even a teacher or have an obligation to deal with things like that. You feel like your sanity is being stretched by these people. lately I can't help but feel a lot of anger towards them. It's beyond a lack of education, and no amount of rational scientific (basic or otherwise) will convince them that they are just absolutely batshit mental and flat out wrong. I see that death toll in America and in other places all over the world, and it's a slap in the face. It's disgusting and an insult to the people that have worked throughout the entire thing, despite their fears.

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« Reply #51413 on: February 23, 2021, 09:39:59 pm »
I know how you feel, and I'm not even a teacher or have an obligation to deal with things like that. You feel like your sanity is being stretched by these people. lately I can't help but feel a lot of anger towards them. It's beyond a lack of education, and no amount of rational scientific (basic or otherwise) will convince them that they are just absolutely batshit mental and flat out wrong. I see that death toll in America and in other places all over the world, and it's a slap in the face. It's disgusting and an insult to the people that have worked throughout the entire thing, despite their fears.

Fucking madness isn’t it.

What really grinds my gears with any conspiracy theory or baseless claims (aside from the fact that they’re often dangerous) is how people just flippantly come out with narrative with absence of evidence and use the fact that it’s a conspiracy to justify why they’ve no evidence, then when the claim is eventually proven to be bullshit they just change it to something else, ad infinitum.

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« Reply #51415 on: February 23, 2021, 09:44:31 pm »
Fucking madness isn’t it.

What really grinds my gears with any conspiracy theory or baseless claims (aside from the fact that they’re often dangerous) is how people just flippantly come out with narrative with absence of evidence and use the fact that it’s a conspiracy to justify why they’ve no evidence, then when the claim is eventually proven to be bullshit they just change it to something else, ad infinitum.

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« Reply #51416 on: February 23, 2021, 09:49:04 pm »
Fucking madness isn’t it.

What really grinds my gears with any conspiracy theory or baseless claims (aside from the fact that they’re often dangerous) is how people just flippantly come out with narrative with absence of evidence and use the fact that it’s a conspiracy to justify why they’ve no evidence, then when the claim is eventually proven to be bullshit they just change it to something else, ad infinitum.
Absolutely bang on the money. They're right. You're wrong. The end. There isn't a single bone of humility in these people because at heart, they're a bunch of selfish c*nts with the IQ of an amoeba. Whenever you present statistics and evidence of millions of people getting vaccinated, and vaccines shown to be working, the response then switches to "Well, they're obviously being injected with a placebo, and it's not the real vaccine" because to their disappointment - and this is the thing that blows my mind to shreds - they are not seeing serious adverse side effects that they'd hoped, and no one is dropping dead so that they can gleefully gloat "I told you so".

I am not exaggerating when I say this: anyone peddling this bollocks should be permanently remembered for it. They should not be forgiven for it, unless they are will to admit they were badly wrong. The stigma should stick with them like a bad smell for the rest of their lives. It should affect their careers and prospects like a criminal record should. There is no excuses for the damage these people are causing.

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« Reply #51417 on: February 23, 2021, 09:51:59 pm »
OK.  Any chance?  Last page has been full of talk of holidays etc. Cut that out and have some sympathy for us in the EU, more specifically expats sitting in Berlin. Vaccine program here is a bit of a dogs dinner.  Add to that all the negative publicity around Oxford/AZ and I am pissed to read today that almost no-one is turning up for those AZ vaccines at Tegel - I find this really annoying as looks like I will be months away and will gladly take the AZ shot. 
To be honest - I'm just jealous of you guys living in UK with such an amazing covid plan::)   
Nah - I really am pleased for you all.  It's great, positive for once and long may this vaccines pace and energy roll on. 
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As usual it might be various approaches and organisation due to Germany being federal. Most in our family are in Hesse and my mum phoned me today and said that they will begin vaccinating those in the second group of the priority list, i.e. anyone aged 70 and up, starting March 5 and people can apply for appointments from today via online or phone. Since the start they have been doing 80 plus (and various risk groups). I never thought my parents (mum is mid, dad is end 70) would be able to apply for their jabs before mid/end of March. Very happy about that. Last weekend we were talking about vaccines and I was thinking I might have to convince them to take whatever was available at a given time, but my parents were cool with it and like, give me AZ any day, it's absolutely fine. Unfortunately the bad press had its effect on some people though, on top of the anti vaxxers. Really not what we all need.

Would it make any sense to check if Tegel is giving jabs to whoever comes by (outside of priority groups) before they let supplies rot?

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« Reply #51418 on: February 23, 2021, 09:53:48 pm »
Some experts don't appear to think that much of the article.

https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1364294846853308432
That’s positive... good to hear
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« Reply #51419 on: February 23, 2021, 09:59:08 pm »
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« Reply #51420 on: February 24, 2021, 12:18:48 am »
Had an email from Novavax trial that they are changing the trial around and now everyone that didn't get the vaccine in the first part of the trial will get one (and everyone else will get the placebo). Nobody gets deblinded as far as I can see unless you ask for it.

Not quite sure what benefit there is to still give people the placebo to be honest but happy nevertheless.
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« Reply #51421 on: February 24, 2021, 12:27:40 am »
Had an email from Novavax trial that they are changing the trial around and now everyone that didn't get the vaccine in the first part of the trial will get one (and everyone else will get the placebo). Nobody gets deblinded as far as I can see unless you ask for it.

Not quite sure what benefit there is to still give people the placebo to be honest but happy nevertheless.
Makes it all a single dose trial then? You just don’t know if you got the real one weeks ago or will get it now?

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« Reply #51422 on: February 24, 2021, 12:40:46 am »
Think it's also a psychological thing, people are itching to get some space, to see somewhere new and many have some cash in their pocket after a reduction in expenses over the lockdown.  I don't think I'd begrudge anyone a bit of a blow out holiday and there is some logic to getting in there early.

More broadly though, at least you know the majority of the UK population will have been vaccinated - which means less illness, less mutation and less need to worry.  It's those who seem to be optimistically wanting to travel to areas which are barely anywhere through their vaccination program and likely to be wary of British tourists (with the predominance of the B117 variant) tipping up.  Perhaps later in the year when we've seen a more broad roll out I can understand it, but before that, seems like there are a lot of variables.  In particular how the lockdowns/restrictions hold once the weather starts improving and people naturally want to get back outside again.

This part - "less mutation" - isn't strictly true, or at least it's a more complicated relationship than that.

Evolutionary pressure increases as the number of people protected from the virus, either through vaccination or infection, grows.

That isn't necessarily overly concerning though, for a variety of reasons included at the end of this short explainer.
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965703047/vaccines-could-drive-the-evolution-of-more-covid-19-mutants

Bottom line is "less mutation" only comes about with fewer infections (in everyone, although vaccinations will reduce infections in a proportion of people who have received them).
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« Reply #51423 on: February 24, 2021, 01:03:07 am »

Looks like cases are flattening out at about the current rate, which is still quite high.

Maybe due to the part of the population that can't or won't follow the "stay at home" rules? If so, there is probably not much that will help, until vaccinations reach them. But even then, some might refuse and keep rates up.

It shows up quite well in age stratification. This is a decent recent graphic (note its in a log scale):

Still not liking these case trends in 15-64 years olds in England.
https://twitter.com/VictimOfMaths/status/1364255222026162178

(although would probably limit his speculation lower in the thread down to ideas 1 and 2 or 5. Testing is so heterogeneous now, especially with lateral flow devices, that it's really hard to speculate based on positive cases alone - lagged indicators such as hospitalisations and deaths will always show a clearer picture)
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« Reply #51424 on: February 24, 2021, 01:28:20 am »
The latest interim report today from the REACT study of community prevalence suggested that large household side, living in a deprived neighbourhood, and Asian ethnicity were all associated with higher prevalence.

I’d imagine the reason behind the levelling off of decline is related to those associations, and perhaps what they mean for people in those groups with regard to work, etc.

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« Reply #51425 on: February 24, 2021, 07:37:56 am »
It shows up quite well in age stratification. This is a decent recent graphic (note its in a log scale):

Still not liking these case trends in 15-64 years olds in England.
https://twitter.com/VictimOfMaths/status/1364255222026162178

(although would probably limit his speculation lower in the thread down to ideas 1 and 2 or 5. Testing is so heterogeneous now, especially with lateral flow devices, that it's really hard to speculate based on positive cases alone - lagged indicators such as hospitalisations and deaths will always show a clearer picture)

Think it's actually hard to tell if this is due to the vaccine, or due to the lockdown. It's the working age population that is keeping cases up. The not-in-school kids and the 65+ are more likely to stay at home. Guess we'll see in another 4 weeks - vaccinations coming down the age groups should affect the 45-65 graph, but not so much the 15-44.


I know people point to the strong decline in deaths in the over 80s as an effect of the vaccine, but I wonder about the timing. Considering that there are a number of weeks between infection and death, and considering the 3 weeks immunisation needs after vaccination, I'd think we should only now reach the point of reduced mortality in the older age groups.
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« Reply #51426 on: February 24, 2021, 07:56:13 am »
Think it's actually hard to tell if this is due to the vaccine, or due to the lockdown. It's the working age population that is keeping cases up. The not-in-school kids and the 65+ are more likely to stay at home. Guess we'll see in another 4 weeks - vaccinations coming down the age groups should affect the 45-65 graph, but not so much the 15-44.

I know people point to the strong decline in deaths in the over 80s as an effect of the vaccine, but I wonder about the timing. Considering that there are a number of weeks between infection and death, and considering the 3 weeks immunisation needs after vaccination, I'd think we should only now reach the point of reduced mortality in the older age groups.

Totally agree on all counts. Have said a few times on here that I think there's been premature claims of a vaccine effect.

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« Reply #51427 on: February 24, 2021, 08:01:10 am »
Three weeks is optimum, but they'd have rising resistance from a shorter period after immunisation, no? Jabs began in December so I don't see why death reductions aren't at least partially related to vaccine roll out.

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« Reply #51428 on: February 24, 2021, 08:27:45 am »
Wondered how this would be done. A friend has just had his second dose (he's over 70).

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The i’s Hugo Gye has been providing an invaluable service tweeting out the number of new vaccine doses administered each day in the U.K. — although the disappointing numbers over the past few days mean Gye’s mentions have taken a battering. Playbook spoke to a senior government source yesterday to find out why the numbers have plummeted, and the message was: “Don’t panic.” An expected lack of supply at the end of this month means the NHS has decided to hold back jabs so they definitely have enough for people who need their second dose in the next few weeks. Next month, big shipments of vaccines are due to arrive, at which point first doses will ramp up massively, the source promised.

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« Reply #51429 on: February 24, 2021, 08:38:06 am »
I honestly don't care which vaccine I get offered.

Absolutely a vaccine is a vaccine at the end of the day. The slagging off has been really disappointing especially as all the scientists have done an amazing job.
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« Reply #51430 on: February 24, 2021, 08:40:08 am »
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« Reply #51431 on: February 24, 2021, 08:44:01 am »
Gavin Williamson vs GMB round 2.
Guess what folks.

Exams this year are going to be a totally car crash again.  But because there’s no algorithm everyone will blame the schools giving the grades instead.

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« Reply #51432 on: February 24, 2021, 08:59:11 am »
He's such an arrogant c*nt isn't he.

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« Reply #51433 on: February 24, 2021, 09:36:36 am »
As usual it might be various approaches and organisation due to Germany being federal. Most in our family are in Hesse and my mum phoned me today and said that they will begin vaccinating those in the second group of the priority list, i.e. anyone aged 70 and up, starting March 5 and people can apply for appointments from today via online or phone. Since the start they have been doing 80 plus (and various risk groups). I never thought my parents (mum is mid, dad is end 70) would be able to apply for their jabs before mid/end of March. Very happy about that. Last weekend we were talking about vaccines and I was thinking I might have to convince them to take whatever was available at a given time, but my parents were cool with it and like, give me AZ any day, it's absolutely fine. Unfortunately the bad press had its effect on some people though, on top of the anti vaxxers. Really not what we all need.

Would it make any sense to check if Tegel is giving jabs to whoever comes by (outside of priority groups) before they let supplies rot?
Thanks for that.  Am considering just heading down to Tegel and take a chance, but let's see.  Really hope Merkel starts to strongly champion/push all vaccines and that they start to get the vaccines more distributed into the hands of local doctors.  This will be key for Berlin for example
For myself, I am caught in two minds at the moment - My wife and I are about to leave Berlin after 10 amazing years here - We are moving down to the Algarve.(if we can find a way to get there with closed borders etc.)  So would have been nice to get a jab before we left - So it's taking too long here and if we go to Portugal we will have to register with a doctor etc. to get on a waiting list.  All EU look to be in similar pace for vaccines (unfortunately) - So lets see how it goes. 

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« Reply #51434 on: February 24, 2021, 09:41:12 am »
He's such an arrogant c*nt isn't he.

Laughing while being grilled over breaking the law over PPE.

Which won?  ;)

I'd enjoy giving them the treatment they all deserve.  Vile human beings the lot of them!

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« Reply #51435 on: February 24, 2021, 09:56:00 am »
Which won?  ;)

I'd enjoy giving them the treatment they all deserve.  Vile human beings the lot of them!

At least Prof Van Tam brought a breath of fresh air to the programme this morning, nice to see a human being rather than one of the undead.

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« Reply #51436 on: February 24, 2021, 09:58:56 am »
At least Prof Van Tam brought a breath of fresh air to the programme this morning, nice to see a human being rather than one of the undead.

He comes across as knowledgeable, competent and, above all, human.

He said he can’t wait for the football to come back. Wonder who he supports?

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« Reply #51437 on: February 24, 2021, 10:02:37 am »
He comes across as knowledgeable, competent and, above all, human.

He said he can’t wait for the football to come back. Wonder who he supports?

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« Reply #51439 on: February 24, 2021, 10:06:39 am »
Makes it all a single dose trial then? You just don’t know if you got the real one weeks ago or will get it now?

Will still be two doses, they've called it a 'crossover' trial now. So essentially everyone has had four jabs.
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