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Re: English Football Pyramid 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Invovled!
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2019, 11:21:57 PM »
Surely we can convince 2 more poor sods to do this? :D

I hope so ;D

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Re: English Football Pyramid 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Invovled!
« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2019, 04:32:55 AM »
Maybe try a newbie or two?   Or maybe a Mod :)

Titi Camara should be receptive, especially if we offer up a few more writers!
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Re: English Football Pyramid 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Invovled!
« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2019, 09:28:46 AM »
Can we cut out the dissertations on this one? Iím not really up for losing because someone wrote 1000 words on how great David Wheater is.
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« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2019, 09:57:31 AM »
Can we cut out the dissertations on this one? Iím not really up for losing because someone wrote 1000 words on how great David Wheater is.

Not sure why anyone would need to have a write up for this.

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Re: English Football Pyramid 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Invovled!
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2019, 01:30:10 PM »
Can we cut out the dissertations on this one? Iím not really up for losing because someone wrote 1000 words on how great David Wheater is.

The trend is NOT destiny on this subject mate.  And for the record, people did the massive write ups because they thought it would help their vote tally in some cases.

For me, this was a way to learn a little more about players from the Balkans and their histories ----  and the losing part (well, that's been well documented, if you had voted for yourself mate :) , you would have gotten to the next round gazumping us along the way.  I liked your team.

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Re: English Football Pyramid 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Invovled!
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2019, 01:33:39 PM »
Who do we need to bribe for 2 more? :D

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Re: English Football Pyramid 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Invovled!
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2019, 01:46:46 PM »
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Any word from Big Dick Nick?  Sarge?

How about a newbie or two - Fordy or Dan A?
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2019, 03:38:38 PM »
Curious as to how players are usually valued in these drafts?

Will it be based on said seasonís performance? Overall time in the league? Whole career?
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2019, 03:44:00 PM »
Curious as to how players are usually valued in these drafts?

Will it be based on said seasonís performance? Overall time in the league? Whole career?

Whole career is the general rule of thumb.

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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2019, 03:50:16 PM »
Maybe try a newbie or two?   Or maybe a Mod :)

Titi Camara should be receptive, especially if we offer up a few more writers!

Mods should be banned imo......oh, the irony....they have far too many wives to count on....even more than you, Trend! I believe JK also had an unfair advantage having access to the voting numbers whilst we didn't. So that situation needs to be addressed going forward. Maybe let them be visible to all again?
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« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2019, 03:52:03 PM »
Mods should be banned imo......oh, the irony....they have far too many wives to count on....even more than you, Trend! I believe JK also had an unfair advantage having access to the voting numbers whilst we didn't. So that situation needs to be addressed going forward. Maybe let them be visible to all again?

Yeah had I known that I would have made it visible, and I did that initially by mistake, and stuck with it as I thought it was more interesting.


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« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2019, 03:58:58 PM »
Yeah had I known that I would have made it visible, and I did that initially by mistake, and stuck with it as I thought it was more interesting.

Retake the penalties? Until we win  ;)
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« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2019, 05:06:34 PM »
Jersey, can you fix the thread title please? Invovled is boiling my piss  ;D

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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2019, 05:31:41 PM »
Jersey, can you fix the thread title please? Invovled is boiling my piss  ;D

Only if you promise to partake in the draft  ;D

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« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2019, 05:34:24 PM »
Only if you promise to partake in the draft  ;D

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Mods should be banned imo......oh, the irony....they have far too many wives to count on....even more than you, Trend! I believe JK also had an unfair advantage having access to the voting numbers whilst we didn't. So that situation needs to be addressed going forward. Maybe let them be visible to all again?

How does seeing the voting numbers give you an advantage...? I could only see them after I voted.

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So what are we doing lads? :D

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How does seeing the voting numbers give you an advantage...? I could only see them after I voted.

And you said you were 12-7 down or something like that. Then you get 9 of the next 10 votes. So what happened there? Did you do this....

                                                       

Or this...

                                                       

Either way, well done, enjoy your victory  :thumbup
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And you said you were 12-7 down or something like that. Then you get 9 of the next 10 votes. So what happened there? Did you do this....

                                                       

Or this...

                                                       

Either way, well done, enjoy your victory  :thumbup

Weirdly the voting patterns as I saw them mirrored the voting in the final. Voting in the final started at about 1am. At one point shortly after midday I was 4 votes up. By the end of the day youíd drawn level. In the penalties the voting started at lunchtime. By midnight you were 5 votes up, by lunchtime the next day Iíd nudged ahead.

So basically you got all the afternoon and evening votes and I got the night time and morning votes, both times. Assuming people log on and vote around the same time, it suggests people broadly voted the same way in both votes with a slight increase to me second time round.

When I went to bed you were five ahead and Iíd given up on it. I didnít even look again until about an hour before the end of the voting when you were one ahead.

If you donít want mods taking part Iíll sit out this draft and someone else can run it, donít mind at all! Donít want to be perceived as having an unfair advantage.
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So what are we doing lads? :D

Not sure that thereís enough interest to make it worth it to be honest with 8 people. If thereís limited risk of people making the same picks then the excitement is a bit limited. Maybe people are draft-ed out. Could try again another time.
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One more then and we got our 10 :)

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Ok, letís see if we can get one more today!

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Are the players we pick going to be judged on their current ability (or their ability last season) or their careers?
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Weirdly the voting patterns as I saw them mirrored the voting in the final. Voting in the final started at about 1am. At one point shortly after midday I was 4 votes up. By the end of the day youíd drawn level. In the penalties the voting started at lunchtime. By midnight you were 5 votes up, by lunchtime the next day Iíd nudged ahead.

So basically you got all the afternoon and evening votes and I got the night time and morning votes, both times. Assuming people log on and vote around the same time, it suggests people broadly voted the same way in both votes with a slight increase to me second time round.

When I went to bed you were five ahead and Iíd given up on it. I didnít even look again until about an hour before the end of the voting when you were one ahead.

If you donít want mods taking part Iíll sit out this draft and someone else can run it, donít mind at all! Donít want to be perceived as having an unfair advantage.

My point is, we were not able to see the voting patterns as it was blind throughout for us mere mortals. Whether that is fair or an unfair advantage I don't know. It shouldn't make a difference as you say....I suggested we go back to voting being visible all the way through, that's all. I repeat, well done, mate, let's move on  :wave
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Nah, it's all good mate. It's a pleasure seeing new blood involved in drafts on RAWK. Especially as you're pitching ideas for new ones now too :thumbup  The numbers voting in the last draft were quite surprising (not hit anything like that in years now) and probably suggested a lot of mods were voting, which is no bad thing. It just changes how teams are percieved and can schew the way teams are put together. Probably if the same handful of us who were drafting had voted then team viva betty would have edged it (might be wrong, just my perception) but with the additional voters it seemed to favour the team with slightly bigger names. That was always the case in early drafts on here and shaped a lot of how people put their teams together. So I understand Bobby's frustration. But I'm just happy we got to the final and I'll be pleased to see you involved in drafts in future  :) 

As for your draft idea, personally I find modern drafts boring, so I won't be getting involved. But you might want to rename the thread to include the word sheep or something, as the word pyramid put me off at a glance. Made me think this was somekind of bizarre betting scheme where you'd pinch all my money  :D
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Nah, it's all good mate. It's a pleasure seeing new blood involved in drafts on RAWK. Especially as you're pitching ideas for new ones now too :thumbup  The numbers voting in the last draft were quite surprising (not hit anything like that in years now) and probably suggested a lot of mods were voting, which is no bad thing. It just changes how teams are percieved and can schew the way teams are put together. Probably if the same handful of us who were drafting had voted then team viva betty would have edged it (might be wrong, just my perception) but with the additional voters it seemed to favour the team with slightly bigger names. That was always the case in early drafts on here and shaped a lot of how people put their teams together. So I understand Bobby's frustration. But I'm just happy we got to the final and I'll be pleased to see you involved in drafts in future  :) 

As for your draft idea, personally I find modern drafts boring, so I won't be getting involved. But you might want to rename the thread to include the word sheep or something, as the word pyramid put me off at a glance. Made me think this was somekind of bizarre betting scheme where you'd pinch all my money  :D

I don't think any mods voted for me but I'd be happy to be proven wrong ;D

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Re: English Football Unique 2018/2019 Draft Proposal - Get Involvolvoled.
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2019, 03:02:05 PM »
Let's draft.   With Mikey, we have 10 its nine them.  Thank you for running this, JK

First player to pull one more in gets 1st pick in the next non-sheep draft??????
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« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2019, 03:29:26 PM »
Let's draft.   With Mikey, we have 10.  Thank you for running this, JK

Think I was already in the 9.
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« Reply #70 on: July 22, 2019, 03:36:16 PM »
Yeah we need one more.

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« Reply #71 on: July 22, 2019, 03:56:17 PM »
Yeah we need one more.

I can theoretically take part as long as I PM my own choices an additional 24 hours in advance to a willing third party (with secondary choices etc PMed at the same time I publish updates) so that people can be sure Iíve not had the benefit of sight of otherís picks.

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« Reply #72 on: July 22, 2019, 03:57:11 PM »
But Iíd rather we get a 10th.

Either way, I think we should start at 1pm tomorrow, so Iíll kick things off then with a new post on the board.

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« Reply #73 on: July 22, 2019, 04:27:57 PM »
I can theoretically take part as long as I PM my own choices an additional 24 hours in advance to a willing third party (with secondary choices etc PMed at the same time I publish updates) so that people can be sure Iíve not had the benefit of sight of otherís picks.

That works as well

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« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2019, 04:37:10 PM »
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« Reply #75 on: July 22, 2019, 04:42:59 PM »
In Volvo Sheep Draft, it is then....  Barney will not be happy.

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« Reply #76 on: July 22, 2019, 04:44:07 PM »
Anyone know what positions we will start with first?  Or if we are doing a staggered years (like intestines) in the sheep draft?
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« Reply #78 on: July 22, 2019, 04:45:34 PM »
How about we randomize the positions just like the drafting order?

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« Reply #79 on: July 22, 2019, 04:50:06 PM »
Anyone know what positions we will start with first?  Or if we are doing a staggered years (like intestines) in the sheep draft?


So the plan is as follows (tbc tomorrow).

First round will be GK. All players will be 2018/2019 with three exceptions, to keep it interesting.

One of your two CBs will be from the 1998/1999 season.
One of your two CMs will be from the 2008/2009 season.
One player can be a ringer from any Premier League season (1992/1993 onwards).

Players will be considered on their quality in the season in which they are picked. Eg if you want your ringer to be Gerrard, specify which seasonís Gerrard. The 98/99, 08/09 and 18/19 picks are judged on their quality at that point in their careers.
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