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Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« on: July 12, 2019, 05:33:15 AM »
Need a proper thread for this young sensation.
If we can't get some proper hype around a talent like this, then we have forgotten our ways.
I am sold that he is a superstar. No one can glide like that on the pitch with such ease, play balls out from behind like Van Dijk and look so calm and assured offensively and defensively and not be on the track to being a superstar.

The kid has the Beckenbauer about him. Screw you if you ask me to temper my expectations.

This is to discuss all things Ki-Jana.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 05:44:48 AM »
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 05:48:46 AM »
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2019, 07:28:37 AM »
He looks promising, I enjoyed his game against Wolves last season.

I think it's still too early for him to be challenging for a place but if we get a bit of an injury crisis or Clyne leaves and we have no backup to Arnold then he could get a look in.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2019, 07:30:25 AM »
I reckon we will get to see more of him in the cups this season if he keeps producing performances like that. One to be excited about for the future.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2019, 07:57:19 AM »
Promising. He'll hoover up those long balls for sure.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 08:34:19 AM »
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 08:34:33 AM »
He looks ridiculously good. He has the silkiness of a top tier midfielder. And such confidence.

Sell Lovren and get him in now, I say :p

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 08:37:44 AM »
How tall is he?

The last I saw him was against Wolves he looked too "short" to me to aim to become a world class center back (imo)...

« Last Edit: July 12, 2019, 08:46:00 AM by arab88 »

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2019, 08:46:52 AM »
He has absolutely everything in his locker but he seems to have filled out a bit since that Wolves game. Just the way he was holding himself looked different. The way someone who just knows he's better than the people he's playing against would hold themself.

Cannot say enough positive things, the only thing I have to temper expectations a little is Ovie Ejaria, who at a similar stage of pre season looked like a world class midfielder in the making but never really kicked on. Don't see that happening with Hoever but of course it's early days.
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 08:48:48 AM »
I just found out that he is 5ft10...

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 08:55:06 AM »
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 09:26:44 AM »
I just found out that he is 5ft10...

Are you getting that from Football Manager? Not sure that's the best source.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 09:30:03 AM »
How tall is he?

The last I saw him was against Wolves he looked too "short" to me to aim to become a world class center back (imo)...

To be fair he was 16 the last time you saw him!

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2019, 09:32:10 AM »
He has absolutely everything in his locker but he seems to have filled out a bit since that Wolves game. Just the way he was holding himself looked different. The way someone who just knows he's better than the people he's playing against would hold themself.

Cannot say enough positive things, the only thing I have to temper expectations a little is Ovie Ejaria, who at a similar stage of pre season looked like a world class midfielder in the making but never really kicked on. Don't see that happening with Hoever but of course it's early days.
Problem with Ejaria was you were always worried whether his dribbling would be found out against better pressers. The way Hoever dribbles, shifting the ball with his left as well at times, that is elite level dribbling.
Also, agree with you, he looks like physically he has taken another step. Going to be some player.
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2019, 09:46:39 AM »
Physically he looked out of his depth against Wolves but that's not surprising considering his age. But he just oozed class in that game. He'll initially come through as deputy to Trent (hopefully this season) but if he develops how we hope he'll be too good to play second fiddle to anyone. Very exciting.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2019, 10:00:08 AM »
Are you getting that from Football Manager? Not sure that's the best source.

Yes! Not the best source for sure but couldn't find more info from other sources... ;D

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2019, 10:12:11 AM »
Yes! Not the best source for sure but couldn't find more info from other sources... ;D

He's probably still growing, maybe check with his mum? She'll have his last measurements.
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2019, 10:28:46 AM »
He seems to have got a second quicker in his thinking, a touch more aggressive, since I last watched him. I don't think it was just the opposition being poor. It was more as if he could have taken longer because of their sluggishness, but didn't.
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2019, 10:29:58 AM »
How tall is he?

The last I saw him was against Wolves he looked too "short" to me to aim to become a world class center back (imo)...

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2019, 10:58:35 AM »
I can't believe he's only 17. I know the opposition last night was nothing special but he not only looks older in a physical sense, his intelligence is beyond the average 17 year old player. I think he could be below Trent next season as an option at right back. Like a lot of the Ajax youth products he can play a couple of positions, but I'm more excited to see him at full back.
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2019, 11:33:37 AM »
He looks very good. Hopefully we see him in and around first team more this season.

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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2019, 11:39:26 AM »
He looked very classy last night.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2019, 11:46:18 AM »
Just winding my Manc work colleague up at work, showing him this 17 year old beauty....still better than their whole defence :lmao

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2019, 04:13:43 PM »
Stay on track and stop chatting wallop. Cheers :wave
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2019, 04:18:34 PM »
He won the U17 Euro championship with the Netherlands in May, here's a goal he scored in the tournament:

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2019, 06:11:04 PM »
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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2019, 07:06:43 PM »
Has he grown since Wolves? Looked like a unit last night.

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2019, 07:11:43 PM »
I have hopes for him - but we had a thread entitled Andre wisdom - Colossus. Or some such starry eyed title.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2019, 07:36:57 PM »
Has he grown since Wolves? Looked like a unit last night.

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Re: Ki-Jana Hoever - Remember the name
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2019, 07:46:40 PM »
I just found out that he is 5ft10...

He is well over 6 foot. Most physical stats don't get updated on sites, so that was probably his height when he was 7 or something.
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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2019, 07:53:57 PM »
He's 5' 11", he's football heaven...
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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2019, 09:16:46 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2019, 10:31:32 PM »
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« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2019, 10:32:40 PM »
Stay on track and stop chatting wallop. Cheers :wave
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« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2019, 10:38:55 PM »
I have hopes for him - but we had a thread entitled Andre wisdom - Colossus. Or some such starry eyed title.

Honestly would be surprised if anybody was as excited about Wisdom as Hoever. Perhaps I'm just misremembering but I don't think Wisdom ever had the presence, technique, or hype around him that Hoever does.

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« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2019, 11:13:09 PM »
Where I grew up there was a place called Wallop and another place nearby called lower wallop.

I didn’’t know you’d visited.... ;)

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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2019, 03:23:34 AM »
He has it. Just watch his performance against Tranmere and you know. He'll make it here.
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