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absolutely! No point having set results if they don't stick to them.  The one who don't pass the test before the start of the season apparently will be video refs for the first round of games. So it's not like they are being taken out of commission!

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Bundesliga ref of the year last year, Deniz Aytekin failed his fitness test this season. In fact, 3 of the top Bundesliga refs did, failing cos they couldn't sprint 40m in 6 seconds, and failing just by a fraction of a second. So they won't be allowed to refree the first round of games. There was an article in Bild saying what nonsense it was, as if failing by a fraction of a second would make them ref worse  ;D But I guess the league is just strict on it!

The test is actually having to do six 40m sprints in 6.4 seconds, with a minute tops in between. You can fail one of the six and re-do it but if you fail two out of seven you're done for. Interestingly, females have 6.6 seconds so how they conclude men doing it in 6.5 seconds means they aren't fit to officiate, but women are, is strange.

The harder test is having to do forty 75 metre runs consecutively in less than 17 seconds (six minute mile pace), with 25 metre walks in between. Females have the same time do this but are allowed to take 24 seconds for the walk rather than 20 seconds.
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They might be tested to a standard but there are plenty who are overweight and no where near the players fitness levels for example

There are some like Oliver who are clearly in good shape

The tests are tough. Irrespective of body size or shape, there are no unfit refs in the premier league. They might be awful but they are fit!
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The tests are tough. Irrespective of body size or shape, there are no unfit refs in the premier league. They might be awful but they are fit!

I get that...my point was more in response to someone saying the women referees in the super cup wonít keep up with the game

I think thatís total bollocks myself

Anyway as you were....:)

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does anyone know how many subs we are allowed in the uefa super cup?

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Out of the 6 trophies left we can win this season, this is my priority order:

1. Premier League title.
2. UEFA Champions League.
3. FIFA Club World Cup.
4. FA Cup.
5. League Cup.
6. UEFA Super Cup ( Basically a European Community Shield.)

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Out of the 6 trophies left we can win this season, this is my priority order:

1. Premier League title.
2. UEFA Champions League.
3. FIFA Club World Cup.
4. FA Cup.
5. League Cup.
6. UEFA Super Cup ( Basically a European Community Shield.)
Flip 5 and 6 and I'd agree. I'd probably flip 3 and 4 too, but we haven't won the CWC, so...
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Flip 5 and 6 and I'd agree. I'd probably flip 3 and 4 too, but we haven't won the CWC, so...
what would be your priority order then?

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what would be your priority order then?
1 through 4 the same, but the Super Cup ahead of the League Cup.
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1 through 4 the same, but the Super Cup ahead of the League Cup.
yeh, it was close choosing between putting the uefa super cup and the league cup as either 5th or 6th choice out of those 2 trophies myself.

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All i really wanted was a decent performance and to match city - and we got that. The serious stuff comes later.

Canít help but wish Salah scored that at the end though, just for the fucking bedlam that would have ensued. Felt like a league cup final not a charity sheidl.

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2~300?

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The tests are tough. Irrespective of body size or shape, there are no unfit refs in the premier league. They might be awful but they are fit!

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Out of the 6 trophies left we can win this season, this is my priority order:

1. Premier League title.
2. UEFA Champions League.
3. FIFA Club World Cup.
4. FA Cup.
5. League Cup.
6. UEFA Super Cup ( Basically a European Community Shield.)

1. League/CL - can't be split in my mind.
2. FA Cup
3. FIFA Club World Cup
4. League Cup
5. Super cup.

Wouldn't swap a single league point for anything League cup/Super cup related though.

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1.League
2.European Cup
3.FA Cup
4.Super Cup
5.Club World Cup
6.League Cup

We exist to win trophies full stop,some may be surprised that i place the FA cup high up the list but it's something that we should have won a lot more times in our history!

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1. League/CL - can't be split in my mind.


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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #618 on: August 12, 2019, 03:25:24 AM »
How many subs are we allowed in the uefa super cup match? anyone know?

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #619 on: August 12, 2019, 05:09:32 AM »
We should be strong favorite s for Wednesday after this show from Chelsea. Thought they played decent actually but I am sure if zouma/Barkley are in starting XI, it might as well be a walkover.

Hazard has been the one who has always bailed then out against us so that's an added bonus

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #620 on: August 12, 2019, 06:26:47 AM »
Come on Redmen!!
Suspect we will see a much changed midfield for this, and possibly centre defence changed.
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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #621 on: August 12, 2019, 06:36:37 AM »
Suspect we will see a few rested as we play Saturday afternoon, not much time once the lads are home to prepare for that.
Wouldn't be surprised if a few players don't actually travel.
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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #622 on: August 12, 2019, 07:01:45 AM »
Suspect we will see a few rested as we play Saturday afternoon, not much time once the lads are home to prepare for that.
Wouldn't be surprised if a few players don't actually travel.

Think itís a full 23 man squad so theyíll all travel

Canít see many changes myself

Keita, Matip, Manť the three to come in for me

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #623 on: August 12, 2019, 07:30:35 AM »
We should be strong favorite s for Wednesday after this show from Chelsea. Thought they played decent actually but I am sure if zouma/Barkley are in starting XI, it might as well be a walkover.

Hazard has been the one who has always bailed then out against us so that's an added bonus

"Decent"?

Maybe if you ignore ball retention, the defence allowing acres of space to counter, and a completely toothless attack.

But I agree with us being big favourites.
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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #624 on: August 12, 2019, 07:39:03 AM »
The result against United yesterday will put us as clear favourites now...no pressure  ???

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #625 on: August 12, 2019, 07:41:32 AM »
Not quite sure why anyone would have the Ďsuper cupí above the league cup.
Itís not counted as a major honor the league cup is  ... Also no idea why itís on our wall of trophies but there you go?
Hope we win - like every game - but ultimately itís a game no one cares about outside the two teams

World club cup very different ... is counted as a major trophy, weíve never won it etc

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #626 on: August 12, 2019, 08:16:23 AM »
Would be massively disappointed if we don't win the Super Cup on Wed. Considering we lost the Community Shield already and it is the weakest Chelsea side for the last 10 years. We also have two more days to prepare, so no excuse here.
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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #627 on: August 12, 2019, 08:47:42 AM »
Not quite sure why anyone would have the Ďsuper cupí above the league cup.
Itís not counted as a major honor the league cup is  ... Also no idea why itís on our wall of trophies but there you go?
Hope we win - like every game - but ultimately itís a game no one cares about outside the two teams

World club cup very different ... is counted as a major trophy, weíve never won it etc

If itís on the honours board it matters to the club. All we need to know really

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #628 on: August 12, 2019, 08:49:37 AM »
Not quite sure why anyone would have the Ďsuper cupí above the league cup.
Itís not counted as a major honor the league cup is  ... Also no idea why itís on our wall of trophies but there you go?
Hope we win - like every game - but ultimately itís a game no one cares about outside the two teams

World club cup very different ... is counted as a major trophy, weíve never won it etc

Who counts what and what not as a major or a minor honour. Just interested to know if there's an official list.

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #629 on: August 12, 2019, 09:11:14 AM »
Who counts what and what not as a major or a minor honour. Just interested to know if there's an official list.

Honestly donít know but all the lists are the same. 4 domestic competitions, the 3 now 2 European competitions.
There seems to be some discrepancy over whether the world club cup is or not

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #630 on: August 12, 2019, 09:26:27 AM »
We should be able to win the euro super cup fairly easy. Chelsea has no Alpha centreback. Both their CBs are Bravos....

There are 3 clubs ahead of us when it comes to this super cup, so its time for us to climb by this ranking.

1)Barca   - 5
2)Milan   -  5
3)Real Mad - 4
4)Liverpool  -3

So time to tie up with Real Madrid.

Chelsea were woeful against MU. If Lampard still plays Abraham, Mount and Barkley (especially  on the wings)....we should be too much for them.

Our front 3 should be too much for their defence. Our midfield should overrun theirs. Kovacic and jorginho in the same midfield.....  ;D
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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #631 on: August 12, 2019, 09:55:43 AM »
Think United and ourselves are on 42 trophies each.
Looking forward to Wednesday.

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #632 on: August 12, 2019, 10:12:07 AM »
Think itís a full 23 man squad so theyíll all travel

Canít see many changes myself

Keita, Matip, Manť the three to come in for me

Imagine the players will want to play given itís a trophy but Klopp will probably have Southampton at the front of his mind with the side he goes with. However like you not expecting too many changes.
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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #633 on: August 12, 2019, 11:16:55 AM »
Think United and ourselves are on 42 trophies each.
Looking forward to Wednesday.

Yeah and I think we'll get plenty more than them over the next 10-15 years. Probably be on 50 before they get to 45. ;D

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #634 on: August 12, 2019, 11:24:26 AM »
How many subs are we allowed in the uefa super cup match? anyone know?

Three during normal time. Plus a fourth if extra time. (source Article 27.04)

A shame given the obvious depth advantage we have and how we saw it helped during the Community Shield, not to mention the short time between games. Vital we don't hit extra time.

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« Reply #635 on: August 12, 2019, 11:41:55 AM »
Can't see us making significant changes to the eleven that started on Friday. Yes, we have 3 days until Southampton, but we have 7 between that and Arsenal - plenty of time for rest/recovery and preparation.

Can see us doing something with Trent/Gomez/Matip, and maybe Gini/Milner/Keita. Think we'll probably keep Mane on the bench for now and look to start him vs Southampton. He'll likely get ~30 mins on Wednesday if he doesn't start. Adrian, Virg, Robbo, Fab, Hendo, Mo, Bobby all nailed on to start imo.

Didn't see anything other than highlights from United/Chelsea but everyone is talking about how stretched/open Chelsea were. Fingers crossed they can't resolve that in the two/three days they have, Bobby on this form will have a field day.

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #636 on: August 12, 2019, 11:54:31 AM »
Chelsea didn't play Giroud, Kovasic or Kantť for most of the Man United game. I think it was partly a ruse so we wouldn't see how they might line up for Wednesday. Backfired badly with the 4-0 loss though. We will beat them for sure but I don't think it will be as easy as Sunday v. ManU.

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #637 on: August 12, 2019, 12:00:15 PM »
Chelsea didn't play Giroud, Kovasic or Kantť for most of the Man United game. I think it was partly a ruse so we wouldn't see how they might line up for Wednesday. Backfired badly with the 4-0 loss though. We will beat them for sure but I don't think it will be as easy as Sunday v. ManU.

Not having it was a ruse- just think thatís their team

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #638 on: August 12, 2019, 12:01:21 PM »
Chelsea didn't play Giroud, Kovasic or Kantť for most of the Man United game. I think it was partly a ruse so we wouldn't see how they might line up for Wednesday. Backfired badly with the 4-0 loss though. We will beat them for sure but I don't think it will be as easy as Sunday v. ManU.

agreed. they wont be as bad as sunday. false sense of scurity on this one but like you say we should have more than enough to win this

i really like the idea of winning this. the more pictures of Jordan Henderson going around on TV & social media lifting trophies the better for it the world will be!

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Re: Liverpool in the Community Shield, European Super Cup and Club World Cup.
« Reply #639 on: August 12, 2019, 12:03:04 PM »
Chelsea didn't play Giroud, Kovasic or Kantť for most of the Man United game. I think it was partly a ruse so we wouldn't see how they might line up for Wednesday. Backfired badly with the 4-0 loss though. We will beat them for sure but I don't think it will be as easy as Sunday v. ManU.

Kovacic played the full 90 minutes

Don't think there was any ruse. Lampard said after he was trying to get Kante some minutes because he's behind (probably felt he had to justify bringing a DM on to the chelsea hordes)