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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3800 on: July 12, 2019, 10:11:00 AM »
That Surrey scorecard is amazing, Stewart & Thorpe getting 198, the rest barely managing a run between them

I know, the Surrey scorecard reads, 0, 95, 103, 2, 0, 1, 1 3, 3, 3, 4, 1. ;D

Fall of wicket is funny as well, 1-0, 2-212, 3-215, 4-216, 5-216, 6-219, 7-220, 8-225, 9-229, 10-230. ;D
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3801 on: July 12, 2019, 10:12:58 AM »
Just watching the highlights and theyíve just had an ad for erectile dysfunction. Theyíve really nailed their target audience this tournament havenít they.

Anyway, time for some Pepeís chicken and rice, Iím off to Droitwich.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3802 on: July 12, 2019, 10:52:31 AM »
Dharmasena is one of the umpires for the final :lmao Fuck off to whoever made that decision.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3803 on: July 12, 2019, 10:53:25 AM »
Dharmasena is one of the umpires for the final :lmao Fuck off to whoever made that decision.

He is hopeless, Erasmus is far and away the best umpire.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3804 on: July 12, 2019, 11:05:56 AM »
He is hopeless, Erasmus is far and away the best umpire.

Thankfully, he's the other umpire.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3805 on: July 12, 2019, 11:13:20 AM »
After his obvious fuck up I'm surprised they've gone with that appointment. But as the stuff with Holding earlier in the tournament proved, criticism of umpires isn't allowed so I don't expect there to be anything said.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3806 on: July 12, 2019, 11:30:50 AM »
For me the two semi finals were decided by the bowling attacks of the winning teams rather than the batsmen. The New Zealand attack skilfully removed the Indian openers cheaply and were able to keep the pressure on throughout the innings in order to defend a modest total. The England attack also skilfully removed the Australian openers cheaply who were also amongst the top scorers in the tournament which makes the feat even more impressive. On the whole I thought England bowled with good control despite a few loose overs from Wood and Plunkett, Rashid was excellent. In terms of the Australian attack, I didn't think they bowled too badly but the England openers were excellent against them and actually used the extra pace of Starc to score runs. I don't think the openers offered any chances and there was certainly no luck involved, unlike Warner and Finch in the Lord's match. I really enjoyed seeing Roy putting Smith to the sword with that 21 off his over as if to say 'your taking the piss if you think I'm getting out to a part timer'.

I've been impressed by the England openers and clearly England struggle when Roy is not available. I think the final will be won or lost on how well the England openers play against a talented and skilful New Zealand bowling attack.     
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3807 on: July 12, 2019, 11:31:56 AM »
Dharmasena is one of the umpires for the final :lmao Fuck off to whoever made that decision.

The moral of the story is don't piss away your reviews then.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3808 on: July 12, 2019, 01:08:04 PM »
I've been impressed by the England openers and clearly England struggle when Roy is not available. I think the final will be won or lost on how well the England openers play against a talented and skilful New Zealand bowling attack.   
This is the key. If Nz bat first and Taylor and Williamson bat a lot of overs together, their total score is likely to be at least competitive. With runs on the board, Boult, Henry and Ferguson will fancy their chances of making early breakthroughs and putting England behind the rate in the first few overs.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3809 on: July 12, 2019, 01:23:02 PM »
This is the key. If Nz bat first and Taylor and Williamson bat a lot of overs together, their total score is likely to be at least competitive. With runs on the board, Boult, Henry and Ferguson will fancy their chances of making early breakthroughs and putting England behind the rate in the first few overs.

In a one off game anything can happen. NZ do have the players to post a big score, but for one reason or another they haven't done so this World Cup. All it takes is for Guptill to middle a couple, see off the new ball and suddenly it is differnt for them. He can be as destructive as any limited overs batsmen in the world.

For NZ to win they almost certainly need to bat first and get 300 and above. I don't see them chasing that score, and I don't see England posting anything less than that if they bat first. Chasing 300 for England would still be tough in final but you'd fancy them.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3810 on: July 12, 2019, 01:34:38 PM »
This is the key. If Nz bat first and Taylor and Williamson bat a lot of overs together, their total score is likely to be at least competitive. With runs on the board, Boult, Henry and Ferguson will fancy their chances of making early breakthroughs and putting England behind the rate in the first few overs.

As we've been saying most of the tournament winning the toss and batting first has been key and this will be especially true at Lord's which seems to be more of a batting pitch. Yesterday the Aussie's didn't take advantage of winning the toss and batting but most of that was down to the England attack executing their plans to perfection - they bowled good lengths and in the right areas, something they didn't do quite as well at Lord's last time. In theory England should have too much for New Zealand but anything can happen in a one of game especially at Lord's which hasn't been England's favourite ground in terms of results.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3811 on: July 12, 2019, 01:38:02 PM »
In a one off game anything can happen. NZ do have the players to post a big score, but for one reason or another they haven't done so this World Cup. All it takes is for Guptill to middle a couple, see off the new ball and suddenly it is differnt for them. He can be as destructive as any limited overs batsmen in the world.

For NZ to win they almost certainly need to bat first and get 300 and above. I don't see them chasing that score, and I don't see England posting anything less than that if they bat first. Chasing 300 for England would still be tough in final but you'd fancy them.
Iíd forgotten how well Guptill played in 2015. Has he even made a 50 in this WC? As you say, if he comes off then they could get a big score. Problem for Williamson and Taylor is, they are coming in at sub 30-2 most of the time and thereís no platform so they have to be cautious. Imagine coming in at 120-0 like Root and Morgan did yesterday, completely takes the pressure off.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3812 on: July 12, 2019, 01:44:08 PM »
As we've been saying most of the tournament winning the toss and batting first has been key and this will be especially true at Lord's which seems to be more of a batting pitch. Yesterday the Aussie's didn't take advantage of winning the toss and batting but most of that was down to the England attack executing their plans to perfection - they bowled good lengths and in the right areas, something they didn't do quite as well at Lord's last time. In theory England should have too much for New Zealand but anything can happen in a one of game especially at Lord's which hasn't been England's favourite ground in terms of results.
Indeed, Lords isnít the scene of many great English triumphs in recent years. One thing about Lords is the pitch often plays differently. Limited overs final last year saw both sides get 300 however there are countless examples of teams being skittled cheaply, particularly under cloudy skies. I remember Ashley Cowan bowling Warwickshire out for a low score back in the day. Pakistan only got 180 I think in the 99 final.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3813 on: July 12, 2019, 01:55:50 PM »
Pakistan only got 180 I think in the 99 final.

132 only.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3814 on: July 12, 2019, 02:00:40 PM »
132 only.
Was it? Wow, don't remember it being so low.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3815 on: July 12, 2019, 02:05:49 PM »
Indeed, Lords isnít the scene of many great English triumphs in recent years. One thing about Lords is the pitch often plays differently. Limited overs final last year saw both sides get 300 however there are countless examples of teams being skittled cheaply, particularly under cloudy skies. I remember Ashley Cowan bowling Warwickshire out for a low score back in the day. Pakistan only got 180 I think in the 99 final.

So far we've had four fixtures at Lord's with two scores over 300 - both from Pakistan. Australia have scored a 243 and 285 there, so I'm expecting a reasonable batting track - the lowish score of 243 was against New Zealand!!
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3816 on: July 12, 2019, 02:20:17 PM »
The moral of the story is don't piss away your reviews then.

I agree to an extent. However, that's a piss poor excuse and cheap get out for the umpire being a joke in that instance. You can't give somebody out after hearing and seeing absolutely nothing but then say "well don't waste your review next time". That's not how it's supposed to work.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3817 on: July 12, 2019, 02:20:51 PM »
Was it? Wow, don't remember it being so low.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3818 on: July 12, 2019, 02:29:48 PM »
I agree to an extent. However, that's a piss poor excuse and cheap get out for the umpire being a joke in that instance. You can't give somebody out after hearing and seeing absolutely nothing but then say "well don't waste your review next time". That's not how it's supposed to work.

To be fair generally the umpiring in cricket has been arguably the best in any sport but they will still make the odd clanger which is why the excellent drs system was brought in. DRS has been a huge success and one of things it's highlighted is just how many decisions the umpire's get right. They've reduced the number of reviews and options for players because they were taking the piss. We all know the score now including the players, the umpire's will still make mistakes but on the whole they are of a good standard.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3819 on: July 12, 2019, 04:06:58 PM »
Hereís that scorecard from the Surrey v Lancs game in 93. Check out the fall of wickets! Some stellar names in both teams though, those were the days.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8642/scorecard/491476/surrey-vs-lancashire-1st-round-benson-&-hedges-cup-1993

What a card! Astonishing collapse. And like you say, some names to conjure with.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3820 on: July 12, 2019, 04:08:50 PM »
I'm meant to be playing cricket on Sunday. The team is currently polling the XI to see whether we should cry off and watch the Final. Unheard of behaviour. But so is England in the Final. I voted to cry off. Am I evil?
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3821 on: July 12, 2019, 04:31:06 PM »
I'm meant to be playing cricket on Sunday. The team is currently polling the XI to see whether we should cry off and watch the Final. Unheard of behaviour. But so is England in the Final. I voted to cry off. Am I evil?

Hope you're not considering a 'contrived result' in order to finish early and watch the match?  ;)

Contrived cricket - The more legitimate form of 'match-fixing'

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3822 on: July 12, 2019, 04:37:47 PM »
I'm meant to be playing cricket on Sunday. The team is currently polling the XI to see whether we should cry off and watch the Final. Unheard of behaviour. But so is England in the Final. I voted to cry off. Am I evil?

Nearly 30 years since the last time England were in a final. The great thing about sunday cricket is that there's always next sunday.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3823 on: July 12, 2019, 04:42:14 PM »
I'm meant to be playing cricket on Sunday. The team is currently polling the XI to see whether we should cry off and watch the Final. Unheard of behaviour. But so is England in the Final. I voted to cry off. Am I evil?

The opposition will be doing the same, I imagine.  Itíll be a game of chicken to see who cries off first,  officially concedes the game and loses points (if points are at stake).  If itís a friendly then just sack it off, itís a once in a lifetime situation.

Itís a situation that is probably being repeated all over the country.

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« Reply #3824 on: July 12, 2019, 04:46:51 PM »
Nearly 30 years since the last time England were in a final. The great thing about sunday cricket is that there's always next sunday.

My argument precisely.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3825 on: July 12, 2019, 04:48:18 PM »
The opposition will be doing the same, I imagine.  Itíll be a game of chicken to see who cries off first,  officially concedes the game and loses points (if points are at stake).  If itís a friendly then just sack it off, itís a once in a lifetime situation.

Itís a situation that is probably being repeated all over the country.

It's been suggested that we turn the match in to a 20/20 and watch the second innings of the Final together in a pub. The main problem with that is that we hate them and they hate us.....
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« Reply #3826 on: July 12, 2019, 04:55:37 PM »
It's been suggested that we turn the match in to a 20/20 and watch the second innings of the Final together in a pub. The main problem with that is that we hate them and they hate us.....

Could be a beautiful moment, two long time bitter enemies uniting in a common cause over a couple of pints.

Either that or at the end of the game tell them where it is youíre going and then fuck off to a different pub...!

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« Reply #3827 on: July 12, 2019, 04:58:42 PM »
Could be a beautiful moment, two long time bitter enemies uniting in a common cause over a couple of pints.


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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3828 on: July 12, 2019, 04:58:58 PM »
Could be a beautiful moment, two long time bitter enemies uniting in a common cause over a couple of pints.

Either that or at the end of the game tell them where it is youíre going and then fuck off to a different pub...!

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« Reply #3829 on: July 12, 2019, 05:06:35 PM »
Like Celtic and Rangers fans when Scotland play England at Football.

I don't know what happens these days, but at Hampden the two tribes continued to occupy opposite ends when Scotland played. I suppose we could drift to different bars.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3830 on: July 12, 2019, 05:20:31 PM »
You don't know these wankers!

Sounds like the 5th Benitleís mob?

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3831 on: July 12, 2019, 05:24:01 PM »
I don't know what happens these days, but at Hampden the two tribes continued to occupy opposite ends when Scotland played. I suppose we could drift to different bars.

I was surprised when I heard the story about them being 'mates' for a game against England but it was told to me by glaswegian bloke who used to work for me, as you say things do change over time. He was a sound bloke and used to make me laugh with some of the stories he'd come out with about Glasgow, dead dry sense of humour. I remember taking a day off from work to watch Lancashire play in a one day game at Old Trafford and when I got back in, he asked me where I'd been. When I said I'd been to the cricket, he frowned and looked at me with disdain and said 'The only blokes I see playing cricket in Glasgow are wearing turbans!', cracked me up that, sounds even funnier in glaswegian.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3832 on: July 12, 2019, 11:03:51 PM »
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3833 on: July 14, 2019, 08:28:19 AM »
Rain around first up today. Looks a bowl first kind of morning

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3834 on: July 14, 2019, 08:48:13 AM »
Rain around first up today. Looks a bowl first kind of morning

If the pitch looks good theyíd probably still want to bat first though. Back in the day more stock was put on having a dart with the ball if the overheads were cloudy but not so sure they do that so much any more. Bowling first on a good batting track because there are a few clouds about smacks of conservative in 2019. Perhaps NZ slightly more likely to take that route though?

Fascinating match up either way. Youíd fancy England on paper but there are still some question marks about what happens if the openers go early, especially Roy. Would be nice to see Buttler come to the party today just for the fun of it. The kiwis love this kind of task, no one rocks the underdog tag quite like they do, gotta respect them for it and Williamson is all kinds of magnificent, but unless Guptill finally shows up or Taylor has a big day the batting still looks a bit light for them. Their bowling will be a step up from the group game with Ferguson back, so it could get fruity if they nip a couple out early.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3835 on: July 14, 2019, 09:38:47 AM »
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3836 on: July 14, 2019, 09:56:39 AM »
I'm meant to be playing cricket on Sunday. The team is currently polling the XI to see whether we should cry off and watch the Final. Unheard of behaviour. But so is England in the Final. I voted to cry off. Am I evil?
Probably to your dismay yorky mate, I've never watched a game of cricket in my entire life. Never :) But even I'm tuning in, so I vote you're vote is the correct one.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3837 on: July 14, 2019, 09:56:56 AM »
Start delayed until 10.45, toss 10.15.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3838 on: July 14, 2019, 09:59:04 AM »
as today's game is on free telly, I predict the most asked question today will be "why is england's captain irish?"

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #3839 on: July 14, 2019, 10:03:21 AM »
Probably to your dismay yorky mate, I've never watched a game of cricket in my entire life. Never :) But even I'm tuning in, so I vote you're vote is the correct one.

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